Richard Keogh

[Stuttgart88]

Paul, you have exceeded your own world class standards of ludicrousness and sheer negativity in those last posts.

All I see in those articles is a guy who has made a big mistake, was devastated by it but who took comfort from consoling and encouraging words from others.

And what if he had said "it was a disappointing end to the season for me"? You'd probably think he was an egotist with no regard for his teammates or fans. One could easily read the fact that he said "disappointing end to the season for the club" as "it's a shame because my mistake cost the whole club".

If people psychoanalysed your posts with the same attention that you are attempting to deconstruct Keogh's remarks the men in white coats would have taken you away long ago.

[Stuttgart88]

TOWK, you have ruined this forum for me. I despise your presence here. Well done.

[tetsujin1979]

Again. I would love to know why there is double standards when Keogh makes a mistake like that and when on the flipside of the coin, Ward or McShane make a mistake like that.

Blame Henry's goal on McShane. See what happens.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

TOWK, you have ruined this forum for me. I despise your presence here. Well done.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

I still like you though Stutts.

[paul_oshea]

Shows how much you know about emotional maturity anyway geysir. Emotional maturity is about being able to deal with the subject, talk openly, not moving on and dont mention it again or apportion blame to a whole entity or the effect to a whole club. You come on here like some pseduo-psychologist and most of the time you dont have a clue what you are talking about. Your feeble and limited attempt at explaining emotional maturity is hillariious, an alcoholic acknowledges he had a problem , but its ok now, he is more emotionally mature so he has moved on and it doesnt effect him

I said the above article, first time inteviewed by the independent regards the match and his feelings, you dont move on that quick that you assign the whole thing to the club and as stated it was his first interview with the paper since he had met up with the Ireland team. If he had moved on and gotten over it with the emotional maturity you mention but have no clue about, he would have said something along the lines of "i was very disappointed, very disapponted with the mistake, it effected me, and mostly how if affected the clubs or lads or whatever". Ye dont just come out saying a couple of weeks later that its bad for the club i had a good season. Its pure deflection, ye obviously dont see that, but thats your problem not mine.

[paul_oshea]

I see less of Towk in Stutts tonight, but perhaps more of stutts in Towk tonight.

[paul_oshea]

TOWK, you have ruined this forum for me. I despise your presence here. Well done.

I love these emotional outbursts stutts, its good to get this side of your personality out.

Don't let him bother you though just skim over his posts if he is annoying you, ye can see it on the left.

Towk you are very negative, negative with a vendetta or on some solo run, vendata perhaps too strong perhaps agenda. Along with all the negativity maybe start giving some positivity even if it means starting up new threads. Balance it out, and don't keep rehashing the same arguments, your points are quite valid most of the time but you overstate and overplay.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Thank you for the constructive criticism Paul. I will try to be less negative.

See. A little politeness goes a long way.

[paul_oshea]

No worries, i was going to say have a W*** before ye post as well but thats probably too strong. :P

[osarusan]

Report him or ignore him then FFS. If all the posters who post about him and how they should just ignore him actually did that, he'd die of starvation.

Instead his posts are microanalysed and commented on, giving him the attention he needs.

Or worse, people bait him into comments (as in the Robbie Keane thread) and then scorn his inevitable reaction.

It's all very silly and annoying for somebody like me to see, who actually just does ignore the posters on this site that I think there is no point in engaging with.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Report him or ignore him then FFS. If all the posters who post about him and how they should just ignore him actually did that, he'd die of starvation.

Instead his posts are microanalysed and commented on, giving him the attention he needs.

Or worse, people bait him into comments (as in the Robbie Keane thread) and then scorn his inevitable reaction.

It's all very silly and annoying for somebody like me to see, who actually just does ignore the posters on this site that I think there is no point in engaging with.

I think what annoys people more is the fact that I can take a lot of abuse and name calling but never stoop to that level.

I'm sorry. I won't say anything about Robbie Keane or Richard Keogh again and I'll just turn the other cheek when Stephen Ward and Conor Sammon get slagged off as a matter of due course.

There. Problem solved. And I don't ignore people. What is this, secondary school?

[DannyInvincible]

Report him or ignore him then FFS. If all the posters who post about him and how they should just ignore him actually did that, he'd die of starvation.

Instead his posts are microanalysed and commented on, giving him the attention he needs.

Or worse, people bait him into comments (as in the Robbie Keane thread) and then scorn his inevitable reaction.

It's all very silly and annoying for somebody like me to see, who actually just does ignore the posters on this site that I think there is no point in engaging with.

But, how do the rest of us goons know who to ignore and who not to ignore, sensei?

[Razors left peg]

Is there actually an argument going on here whether Keogh is feeling bad enough about costing his team promotion???

For christ sake, hes a footballer who made a mistake, whats he supposed to do? Is he supposed to climb Croke Patrick on his knees begging for forgiveness or is he supposed to be professional and try move the f*** on and forget it ASAP?

And so what if he goes in for a bit of self promotion. You have to be confident to be a pro athlete in the first place and he wants to play at the highest level possible. Im delighted to hear hes not just happy staying in the lower divisions taking a wage. Everyone talks themselves up when theres a chance of promotion in any job, ya would exactly go into an interview and say " Ah yeah I make loads of mistakes in my job and Im pretty crap really"!

As it happens Im not a huge fan of Keogh, but Id like to see him tested in the Premiership to see how good he really is.

[DeLorean]

Nobody is fully convinced by Keogh at this point really, TOWK has just mangled this thread so much that it seems that the likes of me are campaigning for his inclusion, when really we're just monitoring his progress and hoping he does well.

[osarusan]

But, how do the rest of us goons know who to ignore and who not to ignore, sensei?

What on earth are you talking about? I'm not suggesting who you should and should not ignore.

[paul_oshea]

You know what to do osarusan. don't get angry just ignore him.

[DannyInvincible]

What on earth are you talking about? I'm not suggesting who you should and should not ignore.

Hehe, you seemed annoyed that other posters don't ignore a poster you prefer to ignore and seemed keen to impress upon us the ability of someone like yourself to take the moral high ground and rise above it all, by, funnily enough, posting about it and involving yourself. Just in case anyone might have erroneously assumed that your non-involvement was not an active and noble decision. I found it mildly amusing, but as POS advises, just ignore the bait!

[osarusan]

Moral high ground, noble decisions...whatever.

I made a fairly simple point - if the posters who go on about there being no point even trying, that it's a waste of time, etc, actually just didn't respond to the poster at all, then there's be less for them to be frustrated about.

You, for whatever reason, decided to ignore that, and make some condescending comments and implications. Well done you.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Why is it trolling when I slate Richard Keogh? Other people make a cottage industry out of abusing Stephen Ward and Conor Sammon but I don't cast aspersions on it.

... and how am I attention seeking exactly? By defending myself when people childishly pick holes in every comment I make, try to get a rise out of me by bringing up Keogh, Pilkington and Keane on threads that have nothing to do with them and call me a moron?

This is all very condescending and patronising to me.

Attention seeking is posting pictures of 17 or 18 year old footballers and saying "he looks.." and making crass comments about people who are in comas.

[SkStu]

I made a fairly simple point - if the posters who go on about there being no point even trying, that it's a waste of time, etc, actually just didn't respond to the poster at all, then there's be less for them to be frustrated about.

It's still hella frustrating.

Even knowing that TOWK exists in the same world as me annoys me.