I find all these articles funny, as if some move is going to change his game or realise his potential. He hasn't changed in anyway or improved on his shortcomings thus far and he is 27, why would anyone think that can change with a move to Everton. Perhaps martinez has a magic wand to banish these weaknesses.
McGeady is by far our most creative player and yet he will never be creative enough for some people. Agree his goals tally is very low by his standards.
I thought he was well regarded in Russia. No?
Certainly seems soOriginally Posted by Stuttgart88
There must be a higher tolerance of no end product over there. Or maybe they were thanking him for leaving.
McGeady's "end product" record at Spartak was pretty decent. According to this article, he managed 13 goals and 28 assists in 92 games for the club. Perhaps the problem is unreasonable expectation from some supporters rather than unfulfilled potential?
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Although Paul and TOWK don't believe that anything a manager can say can affect a player's output, I think it's very feasible that the new Irish management might tell McGeady to play without fear and to express himself. I doubt this is what Trap was telling him. I'm not saying it will happen, but it is feasible. It has happened with other players.
I expect the same could apply under Martinez. I know from experience just how much of a spring in your step it gives you to play under someone who rates you rather than someone who gladly highlights your weaknesses rather than strengths.
Let's see what happens. I personally think there's more to be got from McGeady and good management and coaching could be the catalyst.
Spartak for the most part were set up to maximise McGeady's talents. He was part of a three man attack and was constantly getting into the box, and a large number of his assists came from inside the box, and presumably it helped his own goal tally too. Ireland have never played him like that, and we've only seen glimpses of what he can create around the box (Keane v Andorra, Andrews v Estonia, which Chippy called a "bad cross"). He's always been stuck out on the touchline for us, whereas for Spartak Kombarov is a more orthodox winger who could stay out wider and stretch the play. I'd like to see Ireland try something similar with McClean the strong Kombarov figure on the opposite side.
Thanks, Aiden!
Note the exclamation mark, that's a definite slogan of gratitude.
Or it could be sarcasm. Their choice of the shamrock over the tricolour is a clear sop to the unionist. We made need Paul O'Shea to adjudicate on this one.
"It was amazing. Martinez just waved a magic wand and all of a sudden I started venturing forward and even started scoring goals" said Seamus Coleman. "Now all I need to do is to stop nearly giving away penalties and I might even become an excellent player. You know what I mean by excellent. Not excellent as in excellent but excellent as in excellent, like".
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-30011886.html
Garry Doyle of The Indo also cites McCarthy as a player who has benefitted from Martinez approach and also quotes McGeady confirming Charlie D's point about learning to be a 433 player rather than an orthodox wide man in a British 442. Basically he says "some move changed my game" which has been hitherto thought to be impossible. Mad stuff from McGeady.
So, I guess we have two competing camps here: those who think McGeady just doesn't have it and that he has reached his potential, and those who think it's just possible - but not certain - that he can still improve at 27 or that a different role might suit him more.
I'm in the latter camp.
Last edited by Stuttgart88; 16/02/2014 at 11:52 AM.
Disappointing to see him back on the bench today as he was named in the starting XI for the postponed game on Wednesday.
Was even more disheartening and somewhat bemusing to see Naismith & Osman coming on Traore & Barkley, but Naismith has scored and won a penalty to settle it. Touche Mr. Martinez!
Deulofeu on now so no action for McGeady.
Is it any wonder McGeady's hair is thinning at an alarming rate?
http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...-is-phenomenal
McGeady being eased in slowly.
"I expect 'stick' from Scotland fans, admits McGeady": http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/...admits-mcgeady
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"It'll be strange playing against Scotland at Celtic Park," McGeady was quoted as saying by RTE.
"Although if it's at Celtic Park it might give Ireland the advantage because there will probably be a lot of fans there in the Scotland end who are actually Ireland fans.
The former Celtic midfielder admitted that he expected to be the target of abuse at the game, but shrugged the possibility off and insisted that it was part of the game. Nevertheless, the 27-year-old said that he has "no regrets" about his decision to play for Ireland.
"Do I expect to get stick? Yeah, probably, because you still get the odd bit when you're out and about, but that's football for you," explained McGeady.
"When I was a little bit younger it used to get on my nerves," he continued. "But people can say what they want at grounds and they're entitled to because they've paid their money.
"It's a shame but it's too far down the line to change people's opinion now. I've tried to tell people my story, how I ended up playing for Ireland, but that's it.
"I have no regrets because I've played a lot of games for Ireland, I've got a lot of caps and I'm still only 27," he said. "I've played at the Euros and I can say I played at a major finals.
"To be fair, the SFA did try hard to get me to change my mind, but it was too far down the line
"I'd already been playing for Ireland for three years up to the 17s and then they tried but my mind was already made up. I knew the players and the set-up, but they did try so I can't really fault them for that."
"To be fair, the SFA did try hard to get me to change my mind, but it was too far down the line"
"but"-- so he probably would have changed his mind had they asked before it was made up? And why would he say "but they did try so I can't really fault them for that.", would he have found fault with them for not trying? I hate it when these dualists are so ambiguous. Had the SFA asked him around the same time the FAI did, he probably would have sided with Scotland. By the time the SFA finally tracked him down, he probably was with us for so long he couldn't plot out an exit strategy, he had burned his bridge.
Just like Ray Houghton, we can be thankful for negligence and short-sightedness on the part of the SFA for Aiden McGeady declaring. Fair play to Aiden for sticking by us after we integrated him into our set up and done right by him. It's also clear that Scotland's lack of competitiveness helped in Aiden's decision, hence the reference to Euro 2012 qualification.
Hopefully Grealish will do the same but it's his prerogative.
I take a hard line on Granny rule players but someone (Bungle I think) brought up the fact that we simply don't have the young players coming through so perhaps I should be more relaxed about that.
I said it didn't sit well that Grealish gets special treatment but Grealish, Murray, Carruthers and Mason are probably some of the best young players coming through so the special treatment (maybe too strong a term but too tired to find the right one) and desire to nail them down is in our best interests.
Don't know what geysir is trying to prove there; maybe he's confused?
McGeady's decision to declare wasn't cut and dry as I want to play for Ireland. He clearly says that Scotland's ambivalence towards him when he was younger and a lack of competitiveness with Scotland contributed to his decision to declare, so I suppose you would say there were ambiguities there.
Anyways, he stuck to his decision at a young age, so no complaints about that.
It would be interesting to see what would happen if Grealish was called up for a competitive game in the Autumn. He says he is satisfied playing in the Under-21s and is relaxed about his long-term future. Would he want to nail his colors to the mast at 18?
Interesting few months anyways if he stays injury free and continues his progression at club level.
I think he's parodying a certain someone.
But at least you've acknowledged the subtleties of these cases.
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