It's always very interesting (or downright annoying) to hear someone say "don't get me wrong I like Robbie Keane" then go on to list a series of "crimes" and stats that try to denigrate his career. This near obsession of comparing him to strikers from major footballing nations is also just so ridiculous and pointless. From an Ireland perspective only one stat counts 62 goals in 131 appearances over 15 YEARS!
Robbies best XI and some other interesting info in a conversation with Kilbane for the daily mail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-pressure.html
Given
Zannetti Dunne King Bale
Beckhame Keane Seedorf Gerrard Duff
Berbatov
How can you call it an undisputed fact when the majority on here have been disputing it for the last couple of pages?Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
I'm not a believer in counting medals to determine a player's ability or contribution, but seeing as you used Klose's medal, in an incredibly unproductive spell at Bayern, I'll make an exception.
Keane has actually won more at international level than Klose, the U18 European Championship. Klose only has a bunch of runners up stuff but I don't think that means much to Germans.
Keane also won the Carling Nations Cup.
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Last edited by DeLorean; 20/01/2014 at 11:39 AM.
Younger generation! what can you do! excess drink damaged brains and incapable of doing a teeny weeny bit of research.
It all came about from this type of flippant cynical headline, falsely trying to make a story out of a non story.
Keane vows to 'walk away' if Trapattoni puts faith in young guns
"It is all about now and I've said before if I didn't play for Ireland and someone else came in, I have always said I would walk away."
That's about as far some people got as their overtaxed one dimensional thought process stopped at the headline 'Robbie vows to walk away if he's dropped' and the headline became the one true interpretation of this story for these great minds for the next 3 year, even some to this day zealously believe the veracity of that headline. Not that they bothered to read Robbie's quoted sentiments expressed in a 100 articles since then 'As long as the manager calls him up he will turn up', just as he always done throughout his playing career. If the manager doesn't pick him, should he still travel across half the world and turn up looking to play?
Cue the headlines 'Robbie, get over it' - 'Move on Robbie', 'Walk away Robbie'.
About a year ago we were all creaming ourselves about our striking options. If Long and Walters could just actually stick it in the net a bit more often we'd be fine.
Personally I foresee a goals coming from midfielders, diamond formation sort of a job after Robbie.
I would have Klose over Keane anyday, but cant argue with keane's record in the green jersey. His scoring record will never be beaten, that's for sure.
Thank you good sir. Now I remember it and of course it again proves TOWK is talking though his hoop.
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
Why single out Robbie and not any of our other forwards who also didn't stick it in the net?
On the previous page I listed out all of Robbie's goals since WC2002 a cursory glance will show his importance in those campaigns in turning draws into wins and losses into draws.
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
he also said Irelands the best place to hunt ghosts.............seemingly
https://static.squarespace.com/stati...st4162012.jpeg
eh Robbie has scored against the french ,germans and czech rep
Roy had a massive part to play in getting us to wc2002 - but he didnt get us there on his own....and your extremely naieve if you think he did.
Euro 2012 turned out the way it did primarily because of a manager and his caveman tactics.....not because of robbie keane
If you are truly sorry.....then you will stop posting this utter nonsense
Last edited by back of the net; 20/01/2014 at 10:17 PM.
You can actually watch picking that XI with full explanations on Sky's Fantasy Football Club here:
Had he been compared to Klose before you started doing it?
"It is all about now and I've said before if I didn't play for Ireland and someone else came in, I have always said I would walk away."
I interpret this differently from other people. I interpret it as if someone else comes in and starts every game then I will walk away. Won't fight to earn his place in the team. Won't settle for a role as a substitute. Won't settle for a squad place. Walk away.
We are all entitled to interpret it as we want.
And we can interpret his statistics however we want.
He scored against Germany in the World Cup 12 years ago. He scored against Czech Republic in a meaningless friendly. He scored a fantastic goal against France and also happened to miss a sitter in the same game. C'est la vie.
That was one of three goals from open play against genuinely good teams in approximately twelve years and one of them went down as a Noel Hunt goal originally.
I stand by absolutely everything I say. His goalscoring record is fantastic but it's open to scrutiny.
We got to the World Cup thanks mainly to the contributions of several other figures. We got to Euro 2012 and were the poorest team in the European Championships in living memory, apart from perhaps Bulgaria. Keane didn't score any goals from open play against Russia, Armenia or Slovakia. We didn't qualify for any tournaments between 2002 and 2012 during which time Keane struggled to get goals against the best teams.
As I keep saying. His record is good. His club career for ten years was very good. And yes, he walks into the squad,
But do I think he walks into the team? No, I don't and his performances over the last three years, in my opinion, stand to that.
He scored a goal against Holland in Amsterdam in a friendly in 2004. But I guess you wouldnt count that as it's a friendly. It might be easier to understand your arguement if you listed the big games he didn't score in, since you are excluding lesser teams and excluding friendlies - I'm not sure that leaves too many games left.
If you exclude all of his goals, Robbie has a pathetic 0 goals in 131 games for Ireland.
Shane Long, by contrast, has a creditable 10 in 43 #cowboy #nuffsaid
Indeed. Not an unreasonable request at all.
TWOK, would you care to list the 'big' teams against whom Keane failed to score in the period in question please ? '02 to '12 I believe. The period in which he failed us so miserably and cost us so dearly. This will of course require us having played the country also.
And at the risk of repeating myself, Russia, Germany, Spain, Czech Republic, Holland, Croatia, Italy, France being among those he did register against in that time.
World Cup 2002
Goals against Portugal and Netherlands (1) v Netherlands
Euro 2004
Goals against Switzerland and Russia (0)
World Cup 2006
Goals against Switzerland, France and Israel (1) v Israel
Euro 2008
Goals against Czech Republic, Germany, Slovakia and Wales (1) v Wales dead rubber
World Cup 2010
Goals against Italy, Bulgaria and Montenegro (1) v Italy * Noel Hunt still claims it was his goal
Euro 2012
Goals against Russia, Slovakia and Armenia (1) v Russia *Penalty
World Cup 2014
Goals against Germany, Sweden and Austria (1) v Sweden
I never denigrated his goalscoring record. His goals against Germany in 2002 and France in 2009 will live in memory, he has an excellent record against smaller teams, he has a decent record against big teams in friendlies and you would bank on him to score a penalty (the miss in Slovakia had me tearing my hair out).
Which Irish striker of the last 15 years does have a good record against big teams though? Gary Doherty?!
And for posterity, yes I am aware he scored three in WC 2002 twelve years ago but more relevantly failed to find the net in Euro 2012.
And lest I sound too much like a contrarian, he has scored important goals in Playoffs against Iran (again twelve years ago), France in aforementioned Paris tie and against Estonia who are quite frankly a rubbish team.
Again, beside the point as Robbie Keane is pushing 34, playing in the MLS and incapable of producing against decent teams. I believe it's more prudent to consider other options and consider rotating Keane.
Or are we going to wait until Shane Long and Anthony Stokes are in their thirties to give them a concerted chance in the team?
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