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    Quote Originally Posted by gormacha View Post
    May as well add my tuppence ha'penny worth. I thought the first incident was a red. You could argue it both ways, but I think most refs most of the time would have given red.

    The second one, when slowed down through replay, looks like a penalty was harsh. But on first viewing, at full speed, I thought it was a penalty, and that's all the ref has to go on. It shouldn't have resulted in a sending off though. Very hard luck on Dundalk, but the level of vitriol shown towards the ref by some for this decision was out of proportion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah View Post
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    I'd agree with the general consensus here. First tackle was crazy reckless and totally unnecessary in the exact circumstances. Second, I've seen them given and not given as penalties so I have no serious beef with the ref over that. But there was a covering defender. Certainly not a red.
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    I think we can all agree that the FAI will do sweet FA and the same idiots will be officiating week in week out not matter what they do. yesterday's debacle will not spur them on to change their process of training refs but yet they will be quick enough to hand out fines and suspensions to almost all our backroom staff and any players who said anything.

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    Any comment on Towell's hand ball in the wall? looked a like clear penalty

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejadem View Post
    Any comment on Towell's hand ball in the wall? looked a like clear penalty
    Any comment on the countless fouls on Dundalk players for the entire 90 mins that were ignored?

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    Precisely, the goon needed a bit of cop on, not to dish out reds for the first two tackles of the game.

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    Just read that. Alan Cawley comes up with this nugget:

    The reason I say this is because you have to take into consideration the occasion, it was a local derby, still very early in the game plus it was very wet and the conditions were slippery.
    The laws of the game are the same all the time. I hate this stupid idea that they should be relaxed if it's a local derby or if it's a big game.

    Kenny has said in interviews that they suspected there would be a red card and spoke to the players about it. And then Meenan flies in like that when it was totally uncalled for. He can't blame the pitch for what he did. But I haven't seen any criticism of him at all while lots of LOI players are laying into the officials.

    The penalty incident was less clear cut but my thoughts on first viewing were that it was a foul and denied a shooting opportunity in the box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillonman View Post
    Any comment on the countless fouls on Dundalk players for the entire 90 mins that were ignored?

    Yeah I can comment, LOI referees are poor, hardly breaking news, plenty of fouls both ways not given, could have been more in favour for one team or another, didn't take a count.

    So, any comment on Towell's hand ball in the wall? It seems Stephen Kenny missed it in his summary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejadem View Post
    Yeah I can comment, LOI referees are poor, hardly breaking news, plenty of fouls both ways not given, could have been more in favour for one team or another, didn't take a count.

    So, any comment on Towell's hand ball in the wall? It seems Stephen Kenny missed it in his summary.

    You seem to be the only one talking about it. What time did it happen? I'll give it a look to see if I can spot what you saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejadem View Post
    Yeah I can comment, LOI referees are poor, hardly breaking news, plenty of fouls both ways not given, could have been more in favour for one team or another, didn't take a count.

    So, any comment on Towell's hand ball in the wall? It seems Stephen Kenny missed it in his summary.
    It was a referee error as it was clearly a penalty IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    You seem to be the only one talking about it. What time did it happen? I'll give it a look to see if I can spot what you saw.
    From the free kick that was awarded when Meenan sent off. Clear handball.

    I think that's the broader issue to be fair, Buttimer isn't biased. he's just awful
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    From the free kick after Meenan's red card I think, Cassidy made a big deal of out at the time. I'll check it out online now, Towell on the end of the wall has his arm up, ball hits him and goes out for a corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejadem View Post
    Yeah I can comment, LOI referees are poor, hardly breaking news, plenty of fouls both ways not given, could have been more in favour for one team or another, didn't take a count.

    So, any comment on Towell's hand ball in the wall? It seems Stephen Kenny missed it in his summary.
    Any comment on the studs up stamp by Alan Byrne and his elbow just before it near the end of the game. If we are going by the laws of the game he should have walked too. Buttimer give us nothing all day. He was if anything even worse in the second half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    I think that's the broader issue to be fair, Buttimer isn't biased. he's just awful
    I agree he is awful, but after being abused at half time he seemed to give us nothing at all in the second half. If that's not biased I don't know what is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    Just read that. Alan Cawley comes up with this nugget:



    The laws of the game are the same all the time. I hate this stupid idea that they should be relaxed if it's a local derby or if it's a big game.

    Kenny has said in interviews that they suspected there would be a red card and spoke to the players about it. And then Meenan flies in like that when it was totally uncalled for. He can't blame the pitch for what he did. But I haven't seen any criticism of him at all while lots of LOI players are laying into the officials.
    You have to marvel at the logic that says the referee should take the conditions into account. Effectively it's saying that the players don't have to take the conditions into account, thus absolving the people who can actually do something about it of any responsibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    I think that's the broader issue to be fair, Buttimer isn't biased. he's just awful
    That's the point I was trying to make. Bad decision impacted on Dundalk, but it's not alone in bad decisions. Just in UP this season, Fagan's handball penalty & Bossekota's sending off were just as bad. Doesn't make it right of course. Kenny's crying about Meenan's been a "yellow at best" doesn't help Dundalk's argument either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louth4sam View Post
    Any comment on the studs up stamp by Alan Byrne and his elbow just before it near the end of the game. If we are going by the laws of the game he should have walked too. Buttimer give us nothing all day. He was if anything even worse in the second half.
    Yes, I can comment again.
    Absolutely agree! I presume Byrne got away because there another bad tackle by Daly straight after it which he was booked for. It was a terrible tackle by Byrne, went right through the player. Towell still handled the ball though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    I hate this "he should referee the occasion" waffle. The ref's job is to enforce the rules, otherwise it's unfair to the team that's been offended against. By all means, argue that it was no more than a yellow, but don't argue it should somehow be less because it's a big match.

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