Trapattoni - who would you replace him with?

**Closed Account 2** · 25/09/2013, 3:44 PM

Originally Posted by Bungle

I actually don't have a problem with the FAI taking their time. While MON has his positives and a good track record, I would see a few reasons for not appointing him. I do feel that when he was at his managerial pomp a few years ago, he was dead keen on the England job. He wasn't too bothered about the Ireland job then. He strikes me as a fella that could have his head very easily turned during a campaign if something he deemed bigger and better came along. I also would have major concerns about how he plays the game, even if in the past, he has won trophies playing that way. I do feel that we need to at least try to play football and McCarthy, Coleman and Brady are a good bunch of footballers to try and aspire to do this with. There is a supporting cast of lads like Pilks, Gibson, Clark, Wilson, Hoolahan and Long, as well as the hope that some new lads will emerge by the start of qualification for the Euros to add hope. While managers are judged primarilly on winning, I do think that by playing football or attempting to do so, will go some way to boosting attendances at games and getting the fickle Irish public back in support of the team.

Also as Geysir says there will be a few more possible candidates in the coming weeks, be it in Britain or on the continent. Why rush what is such a crucial appointment, just to get an extra 10-20k of people in the Aviva for the Kazakh game.

He also walked out on Norwich and Villa after disagreeing with the chairmen at those clubs (wanting more funds). It's something that does happen fairly frequently in football, but the timing of his decisions (the day of a Norwich game at Leicester - the team he would subsequently join, and less than a week before the season started at Villa) left the clubs with a lot of problems. He may be a great man motivator and perhaps he is the ideal choice to manage us but if he takes the job don't be surprised at all if he leaves us to take another job the day before a big qualification match. Maybe that is a risk with any manager we appoint, but it seems a very pronounced risk with MON, compared to say Mick McCarthy.

**IsMiseSean** · 25/09/2013, 3:46 PM

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

When does King announce the squad for the Germany and Kazakhstan games? Friday, is it?

I think it was suppose to be Friday but it's now being announced on Monday. King is attending games in England at the weekend.

**geysir** · 25/09/2013, 4:41 PM

I'd say Noel enjoyed mulling over and planning his itinerary for the next few days.

**paul_oshea** · 25/09/2013, 4:52 PM

I'd say he did and dead right. It's nice in a way that they do give reward like this to long serving members. I read on some site today that he could be a contender, long way off but a contender all the same.

I wonder was O'Neill looking for some release clause like you are suggesting above edmundo(well not the release clause bit) and perhaps the FAI went a bit cold at the idea.

**geysir** · 25/09/2013, 5:30 PM

Hard to imagine O'Neill leaving all of a sudden before a big qualification match, never mind wanting a release clause to enable him to do so

Did he ever leave a club before a cup final?

**brine3** · 25/09/2013, 8:38 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

I'd say he did and dead right. It's nice in a way that they do give reward like this to long serving members. I read on some site today that he could be a contender, long way off but a contender all the same.

You never know, if by some miracle we come away from K�ln with three points, and we then absolutely plaster Kazakhstan, and Austria and Germany both win in Stockholm, and the Austrians lose away to the Faroe Islands, then Noel King might need to stick around for the playoffs.

**paul_oshea** · 25/09/2013, 9:07 PM

Ha I was just thinking the same today.

Well all but the faroes beating Austria.

**Grafter** · 25/09/2013, 9:43 PM

I wonder would a nation like Wales consider jettisoning their current manager and appointing someone like Trapattoni?

**geysir** · 25/09/2013, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Grafter

I wonder would a nation like Wales consider jettisoning their current manager and appointing someone like Trapattoni?

Is there anyone like Trapattoni?

**Grafter** · 25/09/2013, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

Is there anyone like Trapattoni?

No there's one Trap... I wonder are Wales perhaps getting cold feet about giving Coleman a new deal (with good reason!) and perhaps Mr Trapattoni is just what they are looking for? They do have players like Bale, Ramsey, Allen and Williams to form a decent team around for Euros IMO

**ArdeeBhoy** · 25/09/2013, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

Hard to imagine O'Neill leaving all of a sudden before a big qualification match, never mind wanting a release clause to enable him to do so

Did he ever leave a club before a cup final?

Told Celtic he was leaving 3 days before the '05 Scottish Cup Final, his last competitive game.

The latest on him in the news media is here.

https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=cr&...fe=off&tbm=nws

Meanwhile, from the FAI bunker...
http://thescore.thejournal.ie/john-d...99611-Sep2013/

**Acornvilla** · 26/09/2013, 3:06 AM

Originally Posted by Grafter

No there's one Trap... I wonder are Wales perhaps getting cold feet about giving Coleman a new deal (with good reason!) and perhaps Mr Trapattoni is just what they are looking for? They do have players like Bale, Ramsey, Allen and Williams to form a decent team around for Euros IMO

You mean, to bench.

**brine3** · 26/09/2013, 7:49 AM

"Bale still young. Remember also the personality, the experience."

**DeLorean** · 26/09/2013, 8:02 AM

Trap and Wales could actually be a perfect fit. Their major weakness is being so fragile defensively. Their defenders really aren't as bad as the amount of goals they're conceding... Williams and Collins are pretty solid centre backs with their clubs and the full back, Davies, looks an excellent player. Ramsey is finally showing signs of delivering on his potential and obviously in Bale, they have a genuine match winner. They really just need a 'system' to make them more difficult to break down. I think Gio has just the system.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 26/09/2013, 8:06 AM

Wales are more likely to think about Brian Flynn or Tony Pulis if they bin off Coleman, who hasn't impressed me.
The likes of Yorath, Toshack or Saunders are all now too old, or too flawed to be taken seriously.

The Welsh seem to be having a problem with their young managers;all 4 of their leading clubs are managed by people from outside the principality...

**geysir** · 26/09/2013, 9:56 AM

Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Told Celtic he was leaving 3 days before the '05 Scottish Cup Final, his last competitive game.

You mean, he formally told Celtic before the cup final, that he was leaving after the cup final at the end of that season.
Officially confirming what most knew would happen.