2012 First Division structure?

**Lim till i die** · 23/01/2012, 8:12 PM

Originally Posted by Trainee

If its only 28 games, I wonder will they delay start of league by having a first Div cup?

Remeber the First Division Cup!!

That was an odd year, I remember a young Stephen O'Flynn bursting onto the scene in it.

Originally Posted by Jofspring

With 4 going up and only 8 in the division this will make for a very boring season and one it doesn't seem we even have to half try and be much good in. Once we can be half decent we are sorted. We will have assembled one of the best first division squads to try win what could possibly the worst first division in years…….Typical.

A large part of me thinks this must have something to do with trying to shaft Limerick in some way.

It'll be hard for us to maintain interest tbh, if it's four up we'll be home and hosed with months to spare.

On the otherhand it could actually lead to some increased interest for the struggling clubs.

**Trainee** · 23/01/2012, 8:16 PM

It will be a crazy league with top half promoted and bottom half relegated

**geezer** · 23/01/2012, 8:18 PM

Sounds like the george michael league, 28 weeks of squeeky bum time

**legendz** · 23/01/2012, 8:22 PM

What's the story with the clubs missing out? Is it off to intermediate leagues?
If the Premier is expanded to 16, be it 2013 or 2014, what'll happen to the four clubs left behind? Will the longterm possibly be a mix of the first division and A Championship, with a regionalised division and some Premier B teams involved?

**Trainee** · 23/01/2012, 8:29 PM

Originally Posted by legendz

What's the story with the clubs missing out? Is it off to intermediate leagues?
If the Premier is expanded to 16, be it 2013 or 2014, what'll happen to the four clubs left behind? Will the longterm possibly be a mix of the first division and A Championship, with a regionalised division and some Premier B teams involved?

16 team premier in 2013

the last few weeks i have found out how the FAI dont give a **** about LOI football so for teams not in the 16 team premier god only knows

**legendz** · 23/01/2012, 8:29 PM

Originally Posted by JC_GUFC

I'm not really sure histories count for much...

Ultimately it is a sensible move in my view. There needs to be some sort of pyramid structure in Irish football rather than the state at the moment. Junior football also needs to be amalgimated with Intermediate as there is basically no difference other than a few more suits being given jobs.

Talk of pyramid structures is forum/pub talk. Never going to happen. Junior/Intermediate leagues are run autumn/spring unlike the LoI. There's no need for either to change. The solution as I've mentioned before is LoI clubs and some progressive clubs working together to form their own league with the assistance of the FAI.
If Tralee, Cobh and Carlow aren't joining the LoI, they should look to form a league with possibly Limerick and Cork fielding reserve teams.

**legendz** · 23/01/2012, 8:31 PM

Originally Posted by Trainee

16 team premier in 2013

for teams not in that 16 gods only know, the last few weeks i have found out how the FAI dont give a **** about LOI football so for teams not in that 16 god only knows

The FAI seemed to want a mix of the first division and A championship. If it's the only option left to the remaining 4 clubs, I think they will go with it. I wouldn't be against it but we'd be gaining something from that, the 4 first division clubs missing out will not and will quite rightly not be happy.

**culloty82** · 23/01/2012, 8:32 PM

Until either the FAI confirm this, or it's reported in the press, probably best to remain wary - after all, every close season sees a story here of one of the Galway sides pulling out, and Wexford were supposedly gone a few weeks ago.

**BonnieShels** · 23/01/2012, 9:26 PM

Originally Posted by culloty82

Until either the FAI confirm this, or it's reported in the press, probably best to remain wary - after all, every close season sees a story here of one of the Galway sides pulling out, and Wexford were supposedly gone a few weeks ago.

Sure the Irish press get most of their LOI stories from here!

**thomas72** · 23/01/2012, 9:44 PM

IF this is true the league will be a joke the positive I suppose is that we ( Limerick fc ) are nailed on for promotion.
Agree with Lim till I die all the CLUBS work bringing in top players only to find out that Limericks top junior team would finish in this divisions top four.

**Longfordian** · 23/01/2012, 9:49 PM

Don't the clubs have to approve any change in the divisions? Not that they'll be allowed vote against whatever the FAI "recommend".

**Trainee** · 23/01/2012, 9:58 PM

Originally Posted by Longfordian

Don't the clubs have to approve any change in the divisions? Not that they'll be allowed vote against whatever the FAI "recommend".

Normally clubs do have to vote for change, but as it stands there are only 8 teams in first div.

**bluewhitearmy** · 23/01/2012, 10:10 PM

If this is true then i will have no interest at all this season as soon as its announced i know we are up.....Idiots havent a clue.

**Lim till i die** · 23/01/2012, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Longfordian

Don't the clubs have to approve any change in the divisions? Not that they'll be allowed vote against whatever the FAI "recommend".

The clubs by and large are a neutered joke

"Right Lads, we're going to have a vote"

"What way would you like us to vote John"

"No hassle John."

**blue til i die** · 23/01/2012, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

The clubs by and large are a neutered joke

"Right Lads, we're going to have a vote"

"What way would you like us to vote John"

"No hassle John."

Leave John alone...he's cool

And to add to the Limerick discussion, spending the money they'll spend this season is pointless anyway imo, should easily walk the division even without the likes of Bradley coming in.

**monkey9** · 24/01/2012, 12:03 AM

WTF? This can't be true, surely?? So what's been suggested is that 2012 first division will consist of eight teams with the top four going up??? Does that mean no relegation from the top division this year??

**Lim till i die** · 24/01/2012, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by blue til i die

And to add to the Limerick discussion, spending the money they'll spend this season is pointless anyway imo, should easily walk the division even without the likes of Bradley coming in.

Two year deal.

Gamble and Bradley together in the Premier next year.

**blue til i die** · 24/01/2012, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Two year deal.

Gamble and Bradley together in the Premier next year.

Yeah I get that, I'm talking about this season. Don't sign them now, get promoted with much less cost, then sign them next season (if available) or better players when in Premier.

**Lim till i die** · 24/01/2012, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by blue til i die

Yeah I get that, I'm talking about this season. Don't sign them now, get promoted with much less cost, then sign them next season (if available) or better players when in Premier.

Both risky.

Also the price would go up when we were in the Premier.

Also we needed a centre mid anyway.

Also we're not spending as much as people think we are.

Not that it matters

Because we're RICH.

**blue til i die** · 24/01/2012, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Both risky.

Also the price would go up when we were in the Premier.

Also we needed a centre mid anyway.

Also we're not spending as much as people think we are.

Not that it matters

Because we're RICH.

We're rich too..apparently players don't accept Monopoly money anymore tho...

Hard to know what will happen with the league. Personally a 12-teamer is the best option, if that means facilitating teams over the licencing lines then it should happen. The 8 team thing being mentioned above is ludicrous and simply stupid.