Sporting Fingal Gone Belly Up

**Spudulika** · 04/02/2011, 5:21 PM

Nesta, I agree with you, and I see, and agree, with Guinney's points, though barely concealed (unconcealed) delight in seeing another club go to the wall - possibly - simply reminds me of going down to play the Tones and the guy I was marking asking me if I'd support Drogheda when Dundalk go under. The day any of us bask in another clubs demise leaves us a day closer to the demise of our own.

**Nesta99** · 04/02/2011, 5:41 PM

Ok, most fans will not bask in the demise of anothers club, see the Drogheda thread as an example. Even Bohs and Shams fans while sniping at eachother endlessly need eachother. Fingal on the other hand were and will be seen by many as symbolic of the plight this entire country finds itself in. Eelmonster put it quite eloquently above. I was in the Lilywhite lounge basking in the glory of denying Shels the league title against all odds, and then being flattened by the announcement that our entire squad were being released - my point being that we have all suffered such despair in the past. But such occurences will continue as long even one club is happy for one or two trophys and then bankrptcy, well at least Mons would win the league as last man standing....

**Spudulika** · 04/02/2011, 7:53 PM

Originally Posted by Nesta99

Ok, most fans will not bask in the demise of anothers club, see the Drogheda thread as an example. Even Bohs and Shams fans while sniping at eachother endlessly need eachother. Fingal on the other hand were and will be seen by many as symbolic of the plight this entire country finds itself in. Eelmonster put it quite eloquently above. I was in the Lilywhite lounge basking in the glory of denying Shels the league title against all odds, and then being flattened by the announcement that our entire squad were being released - my point being that we have all suffered such despair in the past. But such occurences will continue as long even one club is happy for one or two trophys and then bankrptcy, well at least Mons would win the league as last man standing....

:-) You know, you're talking lots and lots of sense. I'm a lifelong Lilywhites fan, I only stopped getting season tickets in 2001 when I saw that the co-op was simply a local bunfight. Though I never wanted to see Drogheda go bang and would always cheer them on against other opposition. But there is something very nasty in Irish football, which I just can't fathom, which surfaces when a club has a problem. We'll always have our 2nd clubs, and they're usually ones who will be least threatening - not just using Mons as an example, I'd always seen it with Drogs.

**sparky12345678** · 04/02/2011, 8:04 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

And I hate comments like this - suggesting that the problems Fingal have encountered are somehow endemic to the league and not the fault of the club's set-up. We should do something about it? No, this particular problem is Fingal's and Fingal's alone, and no other club should do things differently purely because of your over-reliance on one individual.

The club folding is obviously SFFC problem but the fact that this year there are more than 4 clubs in the same boat as us. That every year we have 2 or 3 clubs struggling with one or 2 inevitalby falling by the wayside does show that there is something else going wrong rather than just each clubs individual failings.

**noddy102** · 04/02/2011, 8:14 PM

i hope the cheats of both fingal and bohs are kicked straight out of the league!! bring honest clubs like monaghan and waterford up. sick of clubs cheating ie paying for players they cant afford and then getting away with it. dont see how anyone can argue with my view

**The Lep** · 04/02/2011, 8:22 PM

Cheats? give it a rest.
I can argue with your view all day

**Spudulika** · 04/02/2011, 8:32 PM

Originally Posted by noddy102

i hope the cheats of both fingal and bohs are kicked straight out of the league!! bring honest clubs like monaghan and waterford up. sick of clubs cheating ie paying for players they cant afford and then getting away with it. dont see how anyone can argue with my view

Noddy, Big Ears is calling you, time to go back to bed :-)

**Hibs4Ever** · 04/02/2011, 8:44 PM

Originally Posted by The Lep

Cheats? give it a rest.
I can argue with your view all day

Are you's not signing players you can't afford?

**Ezeikial** · 04/02/2011, 8:56 PM

Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever

Are you's not signing players you can't afford?

and creating wage inflation for everyone else by throwing round big offers like snuff at a wake?

**noddy102** · 04/02/2011, 9:38 PM

yes cheating.. what do you call it? sick of clubs paying players money they can not afford.. you do not start signing players on a budget that is not 100% certain. ie bohs hoping to get through a round in champs lge ie fingal assuming they would get sponsorship/money from whatever source. You f******* wait till its 100% certain, sponsorship contract signed or whatever before you go messing with players careers!!!

bye bye fingal i say, and bohs!!

**Charlie Darwin** · 04/02/2011, 11:09 PM

Mick Wallace of Wexford Youths is on Vincent Browne now. He's running as an independent in the county. I'm hearing that he put more than €5m of his own money into the team and local soccer facilities - puts Gannon's contribution into context if true.

**BonnieShels** · 04/02/2011, 11:18 PM

It does. And the thing is if mick was to fold tomorrow.Youths would still exist.

**Charlie Darwin** · 04/02/2011, 11:37 PM

So all his loans are non-refundable too? He's an interesting character, if a bit loopy.

**bullit** · 05/02/2011, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

So all his loans are non-refundable too? He's an interesting character, if a bit loopy.

He would be well at home on this forum so..........????

**Spudulika** · 05/02/2011, 4:50 AM

Originally Posted by noddy102

yes cheating.. what do you call it? sick of clubs paying players money they can not afford.. you do not start signing players on a budget that is not 100% certain. ie bohs hoping to get through a round in champs lge ie fingal assuming they would get sponsorship/money from whatever source. You f******* wait till its 100% certain, sponsorship contract signed or whatever before you go messing with players careers!!!

bye bye fingal i say, and bohs!!

While I think calling clubs cheats is a bit rich, I do agree with your point of having the budget in place before signing players. However....then nobody would sign anybody, because all budgets as predicated on expected income. What happens if your crowds drop to half of the previous season, or the country goes into a tailspin, or sponsors back out of contracts, or the club who owe you money for a player goes bust? Sadly nothing is 100% certain so clubs, even working off minimal budgets, can always end up in trouble. In a perfect world you'd have all your money in the bank before the season starts, though this isn't an organised league like North America.

**bullit** · 05/02/2011, 6:01 AM

Originally Posted by Spudulika

While I think calling clubs cheats is a bit rich, I do agree with your point of having the budget in place before signing players. However....then nobody would sign anybody, because all budgets as predicated on expected income. What happens if your crowds drop to half of the previous season, or the country goes into a tailspin, or sponsors back out of contracts, or the club who owe you money for a player goes bust? Sadly nothing is 100% certain so clubs, even working off minimal budgets, can always end up in trouble. In a perfect world you'd have all your money in the bank before the season starts, though this isn't an organised league like North America.

As in any buisness you predict trends based on year on year and month on month results.What you are predicting is the end of the world.Spingal had a 5/10 plan, but they got to far ahead of themselves. They had no other income streams bar attendance or sponsers, while others have several income streams that they tend to use trieing to build a club.(youth dev. centres and such) instead of gambling high stakes for a quick return that will eventualy kill a club.
Them people that gamble a clubs future away should be put up againd a wall and pied and im sure you would agree with that kind of retribution.

**The Lep** · 05/02/2011, 6:20 AM

Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever

Are you's not signing players you can't afford?

Are you asking if we are not signing players we cant afford ? then ye, were not

**The Lep** · 05/02/2011, 6:22 AM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

and creating wage inflation for everyone else by throwing round big offers like snuff at a wake?

Prove it, you dont know what is being offered. Waterford was offering more to our players than what we was hence why the lads went to them. Dundalk are paying Byrne and Quiqley peanuts are they?

**The Lep** · 05/02/2011, 6:24 AM

Originally Posted by noddy102

yes cheating.. what do you call it? sick of clubs paying players money they can not afford.. you do not start signing players on a budget that is not 100% certain. ie bohs hoping to get through a round in champs lge ie fingal assuming they would get sponsorship/money from whatever source. You f******* wait till its 100% certain, sponsorship contract signed or whatever before you go messing with players careers!!!

bye bye fingal i say, and bohs!!

Its not cheating Noddy, and dont go, you are great fun

**drummerboy** · 05/02/2011, 8:28 AM

I’m not from Wexford, but I certainly hope the people of Wexford have the courage to elect Mick Wallace. If the Dail was populated with people like him, this would be a great country to live in.