FAI Junior Cup 2009/10

**saintsfan** · 14/04/2010, 2:14 PM

Originally Posted by Damo

Top post.

That is a great post. St Michaels are a top club who only did what they thought was correct. They did exactly what pike did a few years ago against Clonmel Town. Town took their case to Arbitration and also lost. I also heard St Michaels won this appeal emphatically ie Pike were totally wrong in that they broke the rules along the lines it doesnt matter what round. pearso27 posts are also totally on the ball with regard to the situation. What a great prospect, Saints .v. Town in semi final -

**leather** · 14/04/2010, 2:15 PM

Thanks Blinkx.....a bit of clarity in a field of mud..

**TopperHarley** · 14/04/2010, 2:20 PM

[So basically Pike lose by forfeit 3-0 and have been slapped on the wrist with a fine to boot.

Who do they forfeit to?
The first team he played against ??

**Longshanks** · 14/04/2010, 2:25 PM

I have heard a rumour that Pike had representation from both a solicitor and a barrister at yesterdays appeal hearing, a bit excessive/expensive if they felt they had done nothing wrong. They(Pike) must've known they were on choppy waters and were clutching at straws.

**lfc at heart** · 14/04/2010, 2:35 PM

now heres another question did Colm Carrol play in any rounds of the Munster Junior cup and if so was he illegal here as well

so will the munster junior semi be played on sunday

**Damo** · 14/04/2010, 2:45 PM

Originally Posted by Blackpanther

If thats the case, what grounds had Michaels to appeal the decision, the player in question didnt play against Michaels so what business is it of theirs who played for Pike in previous rounds, surely if Pike were illegal in previous rounds its up to the teams they beat to object within 72hrs if not move on , so explain Michaels reason ?

This is a genuine question (becasue I do not know the answer) but was the player in question on the card for the St. Michael's game given to the ref that day? If so, the question of him actually playing that day does not arise and is completely irrelevant. The pedantry needs to stop here, chaps - deal in facts or stop making baseless contentions.

**Monster** · 14/04/2010, 2:48 PM

Im nearly certain Colm Carroll came on for Pike against St Micheals

**razbar** · 14/04/2010, 2:57 PM

Originally Posted by lfc at heart

now heres another question did Colm Carrol play in any rounds of the Munster Junior cup and if so was he illegal here as well

so will the munster junior semi be played on sunday

Heard that they were also removed from this competition by the fai

**Damo** · 14/04/2010, 3:01 PM

Originally Posted by Monster

Im nearly certain Colm Carroll came on for Pike against St Micheals

With the greatest respect, Monster, whether he came on or not, is irrelevant. What is relevant is the issue of whether or not he was named on the card by Pike and thus in their panel for the game. Some people seem to be under the misunderstanding that if Carroll was a sub and didn't play, that he didn't become ineligible by not taking any part in the game. Once a player is on a match card, he is legally/technically part of that game.

**the dazzler** · 14/04/2010, 3:04 PM

Originally Posted by Damo

With the greatest respect, Monster, whether he came on or not, is irrelevant. What is relevant is the issue of whether or not he was named on the card by Pike and thus in their panel for the game. Some people seem to be under the misunderstanding that if Carroll was a sub and didn't play, that he didn't become ineligible by not taking any part in the game. Once a player is on a match card, he is legally/technically part of that game.

he came on and scored

**trueview6** · 14/04/2010, 3:07 PM

Originally Posted by the dazzler

he came on and scored

Ya but i think he was legal v st michaels

**mulla** · 14/04/2010, 3:07 PM

didn't involvement from pike get ye thrown out of the comp?

**trueview6** · 14/04/2010, 3:12 PM

Originally Posted by mulla

didn't involvement from pike get ye thrown out of the comp?

what kind of post is this

**mulla** · 14/04/2010, 3:25 PM

Originally Posted by trueview6

what kind of post is this

meant as a reply to thomas72 when he qouted about carew park been thrown out a few yrs back.ok with you?

**the dazzler** · 14/04/2010, 3:30 PM

Originally Posted by mulla

meant as a reply to thomas72 when he qouted about carew park been thrown out a few yrs back.ok with you?

in fairness thats wrong mulla i do know pike gave carew hand when they looked for help ie money from clubs coz regional helped also any carew lads ie thomas confirm this

**mulla** · 14/04/2010, 3:33 PM

Originally Posted by the dazzler

in fairness thats wrong mulla i do know pike gave carew hand when they looked for help ie money from clubs coz regional helped also any carew lads ie thomas confirm this

only sayin the rumour at the time was that westport or whoever got a tip off from people involved with pike,wasn't tryin to stir was just surprised that thomas was on defending pike if that was the case

**kalyani** · 14/04/2010, 3:47 PM

Yes Colm Carroll came on against St Michaels and also played in earlier rounds of Munster Junior and local competitions and league when illegal, this could open up big problems for Pike going forward if other clubs look into it.

**blackjack** · 14/04/2010, 4:08 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan

That is a great post. St Michaels are a top club who only did what they thought was correct. They did exactly what pike did a few years ago against Clonmel Town. Town took their case to Arbitration and also lost. I also heard St Michaels won this appeal emphatically ie Pike were totally wrong in that they broke the rules along the lines it doesnt matter what round. pearso27 posts are also totally on the ball with regard to the situation. What a great prospect, Saints .v. Town in semi final -

thats all it is a prospect long long way to go in this saga.

**mundener** · 14/04/2010, 4:17 PM

Its a Joke........... If you can't beat every team in ireland your not the best team.

**thomas72** · 14/04/2010, 4:18 PM

Originally Posted by mulla

only sayin the rumour at the time was that westport or whoever got a tip off from people involved with pike,wasn't tryin to stir was just surprised that thomas was on defending pike if that was the case

no no im just saying i know how they feel thats all.