The Derry City thread - Derry sign first four players

**Mr_Parker** · 14/11/2009, 3:58 PM

Originally Posted by VinnyDCFC

The last few pages of this thread have been crazy reading to say the least

DCFC were forced to leave the IL in the 70's and over thirty years later it would appear that there are some on here that are suggesting that we are forced back into the IL again

Depends on which club you are talking about. The existing Derry City or any possible new Derry City.

**Dodge** · 14/11/2009, 8:40 PM

Apologies Kildareman

However Kildare's problems aren't the making of the FAi and ultimately Kildare made the decision not to carry on. Derry haven't made that decision

Yet

**SligoBrewer** · 14/11/2009, 9:16 PM

Originally Posted by Mr A

Surely this means that DCFC are out of the Setanta cup or will that be fudged as well I wonder..

Who cares?

**Kildareman** · 14/11/2009, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Apologies Kildareman

However Kildare's problems aren't the making of the FAi and ultimately Kildare made the decision not to carry on. Derry haven't made that decision
Yet

Neither are Derrys problems the making of the FAI but the FAI have chosen to help Derry as best it can.
It wasnt us who were caught cheating and possibly committing fraud.
Yet we are ignored.
I would be pretty sure the club would have accepted A League football for a clean bill of health.

**OneRedArmy** · 15/11/2009, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Mr_Parker

Depends on which club you are talking about. The existing Derry City or any possible new Derry City.

You seem to be confusing legal entity and trading name.

Per our membership of both the IFA and the FAI the club is Derry City FC. Always has been and hopefully always will be.

**Dodge** · 15/11/2009, 1:00 AM

Originally Posted by Kildareman

Neither are Derrys problems the making of the FAI but the FAI have chosen to help Derry as best it can.
It wasnt us who were caught cheating and possibly committing fraud.
Yet we are ignored.
I would be pretty sure the club would have accepted A League football for a clean bill of health.

The FAi haven't helped Derry at all. They still owe their creditors, and they've demoted them

How have the FAI helped Derry here?

**dcfcsteve** · 15/11/2009, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Mr_Parker

Depends on which club you are talking about. The existing Derry City or any possible new Derry City.

What difference does it make ?

If the existing DCFC is no different than the one that 'died' in 1972, only to ressurect 13 years later, then why would the current one be any different than a future one that stopped and instantly restarted as a different trading entity ?

Net - there's no diffference. Weak WUMming...

**dcfcsteve** · 15/11/2009, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Kildareman

Neither are Derrys problems the making of the FAI but the FAI have chosen to help Derry as best it can.
It wasnt us who were caught cheating and possibly committing fraud.
Yet we are ignored.
I would be pretty sure the club would have accepted A League football for a clean bill of health.

I know that you and a lot of people won't like the cold hard reality of this staement, but reality is that some clubs are considered worth saving and some are considered more important/essential to our league than others.

Anyone who doesn't think that is the case is deluding themselves as to the economic and political realities of football. It'd be the same in any league in the world.

If you don't like that reality being typed on a screen, then don't have a go at me for being the one who points it out.

The football romantic and the democrat in me dislikes the fact that that's the way football is. But the realist in me can see and understand it.

**Kildareman** · 15/11/2009, 11:40 AM

Oh please Dodge theres 85 pages on the orchestrated fudge here. Do you really need it repeated.

I totally agree with Steve. Derry and other high profile clubs especially those in a city will always have priority over clubs like ours.
I am really making the point that we didnt just decide to pack it all in at a whim. An effort was made to survive but the tentacles of support couldnt stretch as far as Kildare.

**OneRedArmy** · 15/11/2009, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Kildareman

An effort was made to survive but the tentacles of support couldnt stretch as far as Kildare.

We have a group of local businessmen who again are likely to inject money to get the new club going and possibly to pay off the IL clubs if required.

Do Kildare have the same? All the FAI have said is that they will support us if we have the will and the cash to start from scratch and put a team on the pitch.

From what I've seen Kildare have neither the will nor the cash to keep a team going?

**Kildareman** · 15/11/2009, 1:21 PM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

We have a group of local businessmen who again are likely to inject money to get the new club going and possibly to pay off the IL clubs if required.

From what I've seen Kildare have neither the will nor the cash to keep a team going?

I took it that the clubs debts are carried by the outgoing directors and not the "new" Derry city (small 'c'

).
Investing in the new club is one thing but I doubt very much that a group of local businessmen are willing to pay off other directors debts??

It is amazing how the will can return when the cash appears..

**-lamb-** · 15/11/2009, 1:24 PM

are 2 of those local businessmen also on the steering group and also own 60% of the wellvan/derry city shares between them?

**OneRedArmy** · 15/11/2009, 1:34 PM

Originally Posted by -lamb-

are 2 of those local businessmen also on the steering group and also own 60% of the wellvan/derry city shares between them?

So you read the papers as well?

**-lamb-** · 15/11/2009, 2:26 PM

not about derry city, no.

**thischarmingman** · 15/11/2009, 3:04 PM

http://www.independent.ie/sport/othe...l-1944007.html

We'd never seen anything like it. In the depressed Irish '80s, they were like visitors from another dimension. It was as though the League of Ireland had suddenly been transformed into a different competition altogether, for one Sunday and one Sunday only at your local ground

**Aaron** · 15/11/2009, 3:08 PM

Originally Posted by -lamb-

are 2 of those local businessmen also on the steering group and also own 60% of the wellvan/derry city shares between them?

Why ask that question here when I posted that on ILS

**Riddickcule** · 15/11/2009, 3:14 PM

The Loi is well and truely ******ed...

**-lamb-** · 15/11/2009, 4:08 PM

Originally Posted by City till I Die

Why ask that question here when I posted that on ILS

hello aaron(?)

actually, nightmare partially dragged it out eventually.
but always best to double check. all derry city info needs confirmed elsewhere otherwise who knows what nonsense you might end up being suckered into believing.

plus, it disseminates interesting info to parties who otherwise may not have known.

**Riddickcule** · 15/11/2009, 4:18 PM

Did anyone read the long article about the state of the loi in the sunday times today?

It was in the business section, very thorough and many figures and facts.