QuoteWouldn't be too sure of that. If they don't agree and the club is refused a license it'll most likely go under and the players will never get a penny.Originally Posted by fbtn
Maybe they haven't got their phones connected yet?
Wouldn't be too sure of that. If they don't agree and the club is refused a license it'll most likely go under and the players will never get a penny.
#NeverStopNotGivingUp
As a League Of Ireland fan i feel the same, its just one thing after another at the moment.
GET THE BOARD OUT THEY ARE USELESS AND HAVENT A CLUE how to run a business and know NOTHING ABOUT football.
Steve the guys who are on the board are meant to be business men who are respected in the city or were respected, but they had no plan B if things went pear shaped, we as the fans are fed up bailing the club out of the messes it gets itself in year in year out. WELL NO MORE I have had enough like most fans on the way the club has been run. Ive always come on here and backed the club to the hilt week in week out. You shouldnt budget for things when you dont actually have it, the players and management are well over paid compared to other clubs, ( aberdeen had a budget at the start of the seaon of wages for £3k per week, and lost 4 players and they get crowds of 10k plus every 2nd week ) if they cant manage their is no hope.True.
However - the club could make an arguement that they set a prudent budget (assuming their words, not mine) at the start of the season, and that the unforeseen withdrawal of 2 key sponsors has pushed them the wrong side of the 65%.
I'm not standing-up for our board here - they have a hell of a lot of questions to answer. But should unforeseen third-party circumstances lead to a license being withdrawn ?We'ere in unchartered territory here....
The fans also to blame there was 3k over in paris how many of them still go every 2nd week, in our debut years in the league of ireland you couldnt get into a dcfc game home or away, were have all these glory hunters gone, watching trash at anfield and old trafford and celtic park every other week. Im having a rant as a fan on how the loyal supporters of the club i love has been let down year after year, and look at us now an absolute laughing stock. Finally well done to the guys tonite great result, and for the like of Morrow, Stewart and co who seemingly have got injuries while all these problems have been going on then they can get lost and see if you can make a better living elsewhere, especially Morrow who has been injured more times than hes actually played and still grabs his pay packet every month. Rant over sorry
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Now that is a good rant. I salute you, sir.
Why? Just prolong administrations like the one at Derry. There should be no bail out by the FAI.
But there will. Really does anyone expect Cork, Bohs or Derry to be anywhere other than the Premier Division??????
The league needs teams like these and the FAI will see they remain and not be relegated outside of league position.
Cobh, Dublin City, Kilkenny are substainable losses as are most of the clubs. Ourselves and the likes of UCD Monaghan etc will never get same treatment.
There can be little doubt the the FAI will do sweet FA in relation to the Drogheda, Bohs, Cork or Derry? They'll look for a reason to do nothing and they'll grab it.
If you want any evidence of this just look at the fact that they granted Drogheda United a Premier Licence at the start of this season. To do this, they used the fact that An Bord Pleanála were considering an appeal against a stadium development that was dead and everybody knew it. All Drogheda have to do to get a Licence next season is dream up another c@ck-n-bull, pie-in-the-sky stadium proposal for the FAI to use.
Neale Fenn on retiring: 'I think once you finish you might as well finish rather than making all sorts of comebacks.'
We got a licence on the basis that the FAI were upgrading United Park, nothing to do with the NRA or Bord Pleanala. The fact they chose to use the money to bail out Cork is something for them to answer, not us.
For what its worth - go and read the licensing manual and you will see where Oriel park does not meet all the criteria for a premier licence. For starters, just read the sections about the requirements for visiting fans. No loose shale underfoot, hot and cold food available, exit gates to remain unlocked.......
http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...381&Itemid=321
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Hunky Dorys Park - could be worse, we could be going to Old Trafford every other week
Not according to Padraig Smith:
Q12 – Karl Phillips: How did Drogheda F.C. receive a premier licence this year when:
Q12 (b) – United Park does not meet the F.A.I. criteria for premier ground regulations , e.g. 1,000 covered seats, toilet facilities.
Under Criterion INF 1.27 of the club licensing manual, a Premier Division stadium must be equipped with a minimum of 1,500 individual seats, or there must be provision in the Club Infrastructure Development Plan (CIDP) to meet this criterion within an agreed timeframe.
United Park does not have 1,500 seats, but Drogheda United’s CIDP includes the construction of a new stadium, which would meet this criterion. The new stadium is currently under appeal to An Bord Pleanala and no final decision on the project has been made. Therefore, the club is allowed to continue playing at United Park while the stadium project is ongoing.
#NeverStopNotGivingUp
He also said this, in the same interview
Mind you he also saidQ16 – pineapple stu: Why did the FAI note they could [not] assist Cobh financially to get a licence, but then said they were obliged to help Drogheda to get a licence, spending money to improve the ground? The fact that the FAI own United Park doesn’t oblige them to improve it.
The Board of the FAI decided not to approve the purchase of St Coleman’s Park from Cobh Ramblers however that had no bearing on the decision of the independent Licensing Committee. Cobh Ramblers were refused a Premier Division and First Division license because they failed to submit any financial documentation whatsoever. It is that simple. All other clubs submitted the necessary documentation, as required under the process.
We have an obligation, as owners and landlords of United Park, to ensure it meets the standards laid down for stadia in this country.
Paying the taxman obviously doesn't count as operationalQ12 (c) – Did the F.A.I. assist Drogheda F.C. by providing money to pay players and/or staff wages???
No. The FAI has not and will not provide financial assistance to clubs to fund their operational costs. Paying wages is an operational cost and I can confirm that we did not provide money to Drogheda United to cover any player or staff wages.
Hunky Dorys Park - could be worse, we could be going to Old Trafford every other week
I presume you're referring to Cork? Did they get there money back from the friendly in the end? I seem to recall it was poorly supported.
You can't spell failure without FAI
I don't think the FAI have ever admitted to paying the taxman (they can't really) but it seems to be an accepted fact. There is no way that friendly made €200k anyway.
Would they go and pay HM Revenue on behalf of Derry?
That would be some laugh.
Hunky Dorys Park - could be worse, we could be going to Old Trafford every other week
Not really. Its one of a couple of rumours, but one that some people prefer to believe.
Absolutely BS. Get your facts right before making-up a response in future!!
That's a disgraceful position for the FAI to take and I think you're going to see similar fudge in relation to other clubs that the FAI don't want punished.Q12(b) to FAI’s Internal Compliance Officer for 2009 Padraig Smith
Q12 (b) – United Park does not meet the F.A.I. criteria for premier ground regulations , e.g. 1,000 covered seats, toilet facilities.
Under Criterion INF 1.27 of the club licensing manual, a Premier Division stadium must be equipped with a minimum of 1,500 individual seats, or there must be provision in the Club Infrastructure Development Plan (CIDP) to meet this criterion within an agreed timeframe.
United Park does not have 1,500 seats, but Drogheda United’s CIDP includes the construction of a new stadium, which would meet this criterion. The new stadium is currently under appeal to An Bord Pleanala and no final decision on the project has been made. Therefore, the club is allowed to continue playing at United Park while the stadium project is ongoing.
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Neale Fenn on retiring: 'I think once you finish you might as well finish rather than making all sorts of comebacks.'
Kev - as I clearly stated I was assuming their words above, not mine.
I'm sure the club will make that argument, and as far as I'm aware there hasn't been a club who can argue the withdrawal of 2 sponsors mid-season to argue that missing 65% was unforeseen. That doesn't mean that I agree with that arguement - I'm second-guessing the club's defence, and as believed by many on here,. the FAI may be looking for an excuse to give a license to the likes of Derry. Et voila.
Again - I'm second guessing their defence here, so don't jump down my throat.
Last edited by dcfcsteve; 25/10/2009 at 8:18 PM.
I see on Irish league forums theres a thread regarding you joining the Irish League.
Curious as to what Derry City fans views on this would be? Would you be happy to do it if it meant you continued to exist?
Former Derry City striker Liam Coyle believes the club should return to the Irish League in a bid to resolve its financial crisis.
There are fears that City, who left the Irish League in 1972, could drop out of the League of Ireland Premier Division because of the current problems.
"Moving to the Irish League is the only way forward for Derry City if they want to survive," said Coyle.
"They have to look at it as a way of maintaining their senior status."
He added: "If the Irish League was to take them back in it would mean less travelling.
"It makes sense to go back and play in the country they are in.
"There seems to be a bit of a stand-off between the board and players and at the minute it is a really divisive club."
Glentoran director Stafford Reynolds and Glenavon chairman Adrian Teer have both said they would welcome Derry back to the Irish League.
Linfield manager David Jeffrey is also in favour of Derry returning but he believes the Candystripes have only themselves to blame for the current situation.
"I don't hold a lot of sympathy - you have to cut you cloth accordingly," he said.
"I am sick, sore and tired of people saying about the money we get from the Irish FA.
"We have a very strict wage structure and we had players who didn't come here in the summer because we could not meet their wage demands.
"Certainly I would welcome them back. My own opinion is that they should never have left but that was their choice."
Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...sh/8325118.stm
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What happens if Cork Bohs Derry cant participate in the premier league? Who takes there place? How great would it be to get promoted by a default again hah
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