"A skinny rat, a skinny little rat"

**geysir** · 13/10/2009, 5:00 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

eh, me?

You would have to have heard it first before you can say you forgot it.

**DeLorean** · 13/10/2009, 5:27 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

You would have to have heard it first before you can say you forgot it.

Fill us in then, I don't know what you're talking about either?

Not surprised though cos he used be slating Sinn Fein and Gerry Adams and their connection to the IRA at one stage. I heard Adams on his radio programme one day and he was brown nosing the life out of him. Same with Allister Campbell on the Dunphy Show, even though he was slating the British interference in Afghanistan.

**paul_oshea** · 13/10/2009, 5:34 PM

the gist of it:

the two had a love in about how great they were on national radio after dunphy made some derogatory remarks about him. Liddle rang up the show saying how great dunphy was and loved him when he played at milwall. Dunphy told him he admired him as a journalist and they then engaged in 96(dyslexic sex - for liddle)

**Stuttgart88** · 13/10/2009, 5:41 PM

Didn't Liddle write some viciously patronising article on Irish football some time ago? Was this related?

**Carrigaline** · 13/10/2009, 6:10 PM

Originally Posted by Emmet7

When did he play at Man Utd?

Dunphy signed as a schoolboy with Man Utd, as have thousands of other kids.

He didn't play one senior match with Man Utd, not one.

He was let go because Busby saw he was not up to it.

He plied his trade as a journey man pro in the old Division Two mainly, in and out of teams.

He never played a first division game. He never played in a world cup. He never played in a European club competition. He never played at the top level of club soccer or an international tournament.

I know that shouldn't disqualify anyone, but he's talking from a theoretical viewpoint when he talks about the top level. He thinks beating the Italians, Germans, etc is easy. He thinks we have world class players.

The guy is completely deluded.

What a crock of sh!t.

Arsene Wenger is one of the greatest managers in the game, yet by all acounts, he was a gash footballer.

Maradonna was one of the greatest players of all-time, yet he's one of the most ineffective managers I've ever seen.

Ability to play football has no baring whatsoever on analysis of the game.

**geysir** · 13/10/2009, 6:34 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Didn't Liddle write some viciously patronising article on Irish football some time ago? Was this related?

Nothing to do with that.
It started on the RTE CL panel, Brady had already wound Dunphy up to an excited rat like state about Keane. Bill decides to pour petrol on the already blazing fire to turn it into an inferno, he introduced some comment on Keane quoting an article which cast thuggish aspersions against our holy annointed Roy Keane. Dunphy took great exception and becoming more rat like by the second demanded to know who wrote it. He then launched into a diatribe against the so called gutter journalist Liddle because he claimed Liddle ran away with a young one leaving his wife behind.

As paul remembered, Rod and Eamonn professed undying love for each other on RTE radio the next day, truly nauseating radio.

**OwlsFan** · 13/10/2009, 6:52 PM

Why all the mention of Dunphy? I didn't see it. Did Giles contradict him? I suspect not.

This has been my main complaint since 1988 and indeed under the Hand era as well I think. The national broadcaster, hosted by a laughing idiot, use our license fees to attack every one of the last 6 Irish managers WITHOUT ANY BALANCE. Other than in the Keane debate, for over 20 years it has been "I agree with John", I agree with Eamon". That is the disgrace. Let Dunphy say what he wants but PLEASE have someone who will put forward a different view and will contradict the utter cr*p DUnphy comes out with.

Is there no articulate footballer out there prepared to put forward a different viewpoint or do the 3 Amigoes make sure it's the "I agree with John/Eamon" sshow.

**Infadel** · 13/10/2009, 7:09 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Why all the mention of Dunphy? I didn't see it. Did Giles contradict him? I suspect not.

This has been my main complaint since 1988 and indeed under the Hand era as well I think. The national broadcaster, hosted by a laughing idiot, use our license fees to attack every one of the last 6 Irish managers WITHOUT ANY BALANCE. Other than in the Keane debate, for over 20 years it has been "I agree with John", I agree with Eamon". That is the disgrace. Let Dunphy say what he wants but PLEASE have someone who will put forward a different view and will contradict the utter cr*p DUnphy comes out with.

Is there no articulate footballer out there prepared to put forward a different viewpoint or do the 3 Amigoes make sure it's the "I agree with John/Eamon" sshow.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Souness have a different opinion to Dunphy over Wenger having money to spend which Dunphy responded by shouting at him and Souness went quiet for the rest of the show.

The problem is Dunphy runs the whole panel and will shout down any pundit that disagrees with him.

**DeLorean** · 13/10/2009, 7:16 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

Nothing to do with that.
It started on the RTE CL panel, Brady had already wound Dunphy up to an excited rat like state about Keane. Bill decides to pour petrol on the already blazing fire to turn it into an inferno, he introduced some comment on Keane quoting an article which cast thuggish aspersions against our holy annointed Roy Keane. Dunphy took great exception and becoming more rat like by the second demanded to know who wrote it. He then launched into a diatribe against the so called gutter journalist Liddle because he claimed Liddle ran away with a young one leaving his wife behind.

As paul remembered, Rod and Eamonn professed undying love for each other on RTE radio the next day, truly nauseating radio.

I remember that alright now. Didn't know your mans name or that he had a love fest with Dunphy the next day. Actually reflects worse on Liddle than Dunphy really, which is saying something.

Brady used be tough enough with Dunphy alright but even that tension seemed to ease in Brady's final days.

**livehead1** · 13/10/2009, 9:38 PM

Originally Posted by Den Perry

Dunphy was wrong in what he said no doubt in my mind, but Hunt has showed once again how stupid and immature he is with an outburst more akin to a playground. I can never remember having despised an Irish player before, but this guy is a complete moron

No Way!! You're well off the mark there by using this as an example of Hunt being stupid or immature. I think he speaks his mind in interviews with the press. The main difference between Hunt and many other English Premiership players is that Hunt spent many years in the lower leagues in England. Most lads who are brought up through academy's and playing at the highest level from day one are coached on how to deal with the media and how to give generic answers. Lower league players aren't.

**tetsujin1979** · 13/10/2009, 9:47 PM

I remember the radio interview. Didn't Liddle say something along the lines of that he was a Millwall season ticket holder, and had been for years, and it was a privilege to have spoken to one of his childhood heroes?

**hoops1** · 13/10/2009, 9:50 PM

Dunphy's general view on Trap and the way the Irish team play is right. Even if he does go OTT in the way he says it. Hunt is a moron. Anyone who seen him on the Turbidy show a while ago will realise this. Hunt sees himself as a Roy Keane figure, outspoken and competitive. Only thing is he is a poor footballer and not very clever in what he says.

**paul_oshea** · 13/10/2009, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

Nothing to do with that.
It started on the RTE CL panel, Brady had already wound Dunphy up to an excited rat like state about Keane. Bill decides to pour petrol on the already blazing fire to turn it into an inferno, he introduced some comment on Keane quoting an article which cast thuggish aspersions against our holy annointed Roy Keane. Dunphy took great exception and becoming more rat like by the second demanded to know who wrote it. He then launched into a diatribe against the so called gutter journalist Liddle because he claimed Liddle ran away with a young one leaving his wife behind.

As paul remembered, Rod and Eamonn professed undying love for each other on RTE radio the next day, truly nauseating radio.

The thing is, I think i remember more of it from what people on here said! Im sure stutts read the same!

**NeilMcD** · 13/10/2009, 11:45 PM

Liddle is a creep though for once Dunphy was right. Dunphy was so OTT on Sat night it was laughable. I think Giles has stuck up for Trap at times during the campaign but I do think Traps style goes against Giles principles. I have not problem with Giles being on the panel, but Dunphy is the clown. I think Giles has articulate criticisms of nearly ever team, as he takes perfection as the bench mark and works back. Despite the fact he was not pefect himself.

Hunty is a passionate player who cares about playing for his country and gives 100 per cent. that is all I ask of any player who plays for Ireland. Dunphy shoulted against his own country. Need I say anymore

**geysir** · 14/10/2009, 1:01 AM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Liddle is a creep though for once Dunphy was right.

You missed the point by a country mile.

**jbyrne** · 14/10/2009, 7:32 AM

Originally Posted by hoops1

Dunphy's general view on Trap and the way the Irish team play is right.

you play to your strengths. under trapp we are and we are in the play offs as a result. good enough for me

**Polster** · 14/10/2009, 7:37 AM

Originally Posted by Den Perry

Ok, name the players in the squad, including the senior players who don't have Hunt's "passion and pride"....what total and utter bull

Just because he talks ****e and runs around (aimlessly most of the time) does not mean he is more passionate...

Robbie Keane needs a good kick up the backside at times, as does mcgeady, both great players, technically way ahead of hunt, but in my opinion could try harder at times. Then of course we have guys not in the squad for various reasons.

But its just an opinion, a counter to the one that Hunt is a useless moron not worthy of a green jersey.

If you want to talk about embarrasing/unnecessary interviews, how about Robbie Keane on the late late, telling us how great Stan was.

I just find it strange that so many want to condemn a guy who gives 100% everytime he plays, and although not the most articulated person in the world, I believe his heart is in the right place. I'm sure the rest of the Irish squad will be pathing him on the back for his Dunphy put down. It also illiminates any urge that Trap or anyone else involved in the setup might have had to respond.

If you believe that is 'utter bulls**t', that is your opinion, and your quiet entitled to voice it.

Roll on South Africa.

**Duggie** · 14/10/2009, 7:50 AM

Robbie Keane needs a good kick up the backside at times, as does mcgeady, both great players, technically way ahead of hunt, but in my opinion could try harder at times.

are u for real ? robbie kills himself on the pitch, hes scored 40 goals..YA 40. such a stupid statement.

**irishfan86** · 14/10/2009, 7:55 AM

I agree- Robbie tries very hard and does a lot of running, especially off the ball. When we don't have a lot of possession, it's easy to forget that he's making all of those runs, and showing for the ball.

On McGeady- he was caught flat-footed on one play in particular last match, but he does do a lot of tracking back. In addition, all that fancy footwork is incredibly draining. Keeping the ball and jinking around like he does is one of the hardest things to do on a pitch fitness wise.

**Polster** · 14/10/2009, 8:18 AM

Originally Posted by Duggie

are u for real ? robbie kills himself on the pitch, hes scored 40 goals..YA 40. such a stupid statement.

I love Robbie, and yes 40 goals is an amazing achievment, however I don't think it's a stupid statement to say at times he could be trying a bit harder. I have seen him in games where things arent going great and he will become moany and start blaming others, on those occassions I think he could get the head up a bit more, stop the moaning and get on with it. Again just my opinion.