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    Quote Originally Posted by Radiostar View Post
    I think its a very safe and conservative pick, I think 2 Ballyvolane players who are worth a look would be centre back Mark O'Mahony(kept Varian very quiet in Mossie Linnane final) and Martin Cronin(striker/winger) Littleman you should remember this fella!I also think Trevor Hallissey should have had a shout, I thought he was the best player I watched last season( a nice recruit littleman)
    Not familiar with the other 2 Radiostar but that Cronin lad is definitly worth a look.Also very surprised that Ricky Gettings is not included.
    2 guys definitly worth a look are Dave Dineen and Eamon O Sullivan from Park.Dave is captain for the year after deservedly getting player of the year last year and is still only 21.
    Eamon has been top goalscorer for the past 6 seasons and is enjoying his new role behind our two strikers this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleman View Post
    A little info to sway your decision.Kerry play 4/5/1.There side is made up mainly of players currently playing in the league of Ireland under 20 an A championship for clubs in Kerry.They are very organised an last season had us dead an buried in the first half.A change of formation an players enabled us to get more physcial and stretcch them on the wings,hence the turn around an win.There not small in midfield and very comfortable on the ball,very comfortable.Anything other than 3/5/2 against them would give them a massive advantage.
    Couple of questions Littleman, Was Figo asked to play this year ????? Harry Goulding to me is as good as Shinkwin and better than Brian Sull was he not asked ?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radiostar View Post
    I think its a very safe and conservative pick, I think 2 Ballyvolane players who are worth a look would be centre back Mark O'Mahony(kept Varian very quiet in Mossie Linnane final) and Martin Cronin(striker/winger) Littleman you should remember this fella!I also think Trevor Hallissey should have had a shout, I thought he was the best player I watched last season( a nice recruit littleman)
    O'Mahony is a good player and just as good as John Sull from Castleview so he could easily have got a call,Cronin tho in my opinon would not be Oscar Traynor material neither is Hallissey. What about Alan Greaney he's a proven goalscorer in the Premier division ! is it because he dropped a few divisions to play with friends and as a fella would say out of sight out of mind ????? Jason Forde is well capable of making that squad also, a few years back i know he played with the MSL Oscar Traynor team. Joe Ryan is a lad not many on here will know, he played with Ballyphehane and still only 23 he,s playing with our Juniors. A goalscoring right back not many of them arund !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Whats this about Littleman?

    From Cork aul.com

    Coachford v Grattan Utd Ref Michael O'Farrell, Ballyvolane v Castleview Ref Tom Tully are cancelled.

    Surely not because of AUL duties Fri. night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkboy View Post
    Not familiar with the other 2 Radiostar but that Cronin lad is definitly worth a look.Also very surprised that Ricky Gettings is not included.
    2 guys definitly worth a look are Dave Dineen and Eamon O Sullivan from Park.Dave is captain for the year after deservedly getting player of the year last year and is still only 21.
    Eamon has been top goalscorer for the past 6 seasons and is enjoying his new role behind our two strikers this season.
    I suppose its easier for us to recommend different players and I know we all have our own opinions. Its might do some of these fellas that are mentioned no harm, if the right people are reading this site!!

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    Oscar Traynor

    Personally, I am disapointed for my brother. He didnt make the 11 last year, or even the 14 on all but one games, but he should have called all last years squad back for first training.
    Always good to listen to opinion, but, the great thing about our sport is that two guys can watch the same game and have polar opposite opinions. He should have looked himself.

    I have always been a fan of Saturday afternoon re Sunday morning, but it is killing my brother at present. Arriving 20 minutes before kick off and gone back to work straight after. You can see the tiredness in his play.

    Where is Anthony Buckley from Wilton? Is he retired? May not fit the age the age profile, but ran the show in the AUL games I saw him in last year.

    The old problem exists of not enough time for the manager. Last year was the first year our club felt an attachment to the team because we had representation from two guys. To the clubs further down the league ladder, they feel no attachment to the side. If the manager was appointed in July when training started, he could have training games for each division from August. He may find a gem and may not, but, at least guys and clubs see their name on the paper associated with the AUL side, and feel some attachment. I know this year was hard for the AUL for many reasons, but, maybe the planning is needed now for next years appointment or a two, three year plan for the current set-up.

    I understand the opposition has to be taken into account, but, personally, I never fancy three at the back. Too much space out the wings for them. Your width restricted with wingers ploughing up and down the wing. Where do you go when you are 1 down with 15 to go - 2 at the back? Liverpools 4-2-3-1 maybe?
    Who am I to question the system that Rockmount have used for years?

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    suprised to see 7 on panel from kinsale seeing their start to the season has not been the greatest at all being knocked out of munster early and not start to league they would of wished. pity only 1 leeside player on team, certainly a few more worth a go there. ricky getts, coleman cody centre mid is a serious player, playin with midleton for last few years and also paul condon is a fantastic centre half. we all know the managment team has had not time on their side for this game so the next squad could have a lot of names that we are on about here on it.

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    Leeside played 3 league games so far horse so this who i think have done well on day in those games.

    Kinsale: Jeremy o donovan(think that name)
    Leeside: Brian O Sullivan

    Knockavilla: Rob Walsh
    Leeside: Richard Gettings

    Wilton: Keeper ( foreign lad, unreal how he is not on aul panel, best keeper in league )
    Leeside: Coleman Cody

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southsider View Post
    O'Mahony is a good player and just as good as John Sull from Castleview so he could easily have got a call,Cronin tho in my opinon would not be Oscar Traynor material neither is Hallissey. What about Alan Greaney he's a proven goalscorer in the Premier division ! is it because he dropped a few divisions to play with friends and as a fella would say out of sight out of mind ????? Jason Forde is well capable of making that squad also, a few years back i know he played with the MSL Oscar Traynor team. Joe Ryan is a lad not many on here will know, he played with Ballyphehane and still only 23 he,s playing with our Juniors. A goalscoring right back not many of them arund !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Personally I think the panel should be picked from the premier and premier a divisions, I know that you will always have a number of players who may be worth a chance outside of that, but to be fair to the management how will they find the time to see them all. And I think anyone playing in the premier divisions are playing against better opposition each week which should keep them sharper than somebody down a few divisions.

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    this .a.u l panel is a complete joke,7 from kinsale,saw them in mossylinane final last year and were only average .ballyvolanesentre back didnt give varian a ball.i see that sunday games are off even if you have one player on panel.a.u l.playing friday night.mark my words that team will not win anything ,when it comes to the crunch.even the best goalkeeper in the league isnt. picked.wiltons italian is head and shoulders above the two picked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radiostar View Post
    Personally I think the panel should be picked from the premier and premier a divisions, I know that you will always have a number of players who may be worth a chance outside of that, but to be fair to the management how will they find the time to see them all. And I think anyone playing in the premier divisions are playing against better opposition each week which should keep them sharper than somebody down a few divisions.
    If thats the case it shoud be picked from premier alone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radiostar View Post
    Personally I think the panel should be picked from the premier and premier a divisions, I know that you will always have a number of players who may be worth a chance outside of that, but to be fair to the management how will they find the time to see them all. And I think anyone playing in the premier divisions are playing against better opposition each week which should keep them sharper than somebody down a few divisions.
    I think the best players available should be selected regardless of what division they are playing in - Alan Greaney for example is a good case in point - he hasnt suddenly turned intot a bad player because he has gone playing first division

    Would also have thought the Wilton keeper would definitely be worth considering as Minty is gone or is his previous problem still being held against him?
    Last edited by olachico; 07/10/2009 at 5:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by el nino coro View Post
    If thats the case it shoud be picked from premier alone
    Maybe but its just an opinion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by olachico View Post
    I think the best players available should be selected regardless of what division they are playing in - Alan Greaney for example is a good case in point - he hasnt suddenly turned intot a bad player because he has gone playing first division

    Would also have thought the Wilton keeper would definitely be worth considering as Minty or is his previous problem still being held against him?
    I agreed that there are some guys outside the prem divs but maybe sometimes these fellas look better against the standard of opposition they are facing each week!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radiostar View Post
    I agreed that there are some guys outside the prem divs but maybe sometimes these fellas look better against the standard of opposition they are facing each week!
    Yeah fair point but surely its worth having a look at them

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    on ball bella, gettings is better than majority of forwards on panel. another who really didn see eyeto eye with minty. wilton keeper is by far best keeper in the whole of aul, suprised not snapped up by msl side. hopefully for aul sake previous problem is not still on going, nt sure what problem was or is there. another player from leeside who should be on panel, Barry (pookie) Goggin ex youghal left back, is tyner from kinsale left back, if is dont know how he would be ahead of pookie!

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    norrie news

    Fair points all bein put across by all lads.A few questions being asked an I have some answers but not all.

    The keeper for Wilton is good,very good but there are top class keepers in our league who also didnt get picked.Personally I think the lad fro Dillons who had a trail game witht the Aul panel was worth a call.Also Dermot from Ballyvolane and last seasons Kanturk keeper.

    If Bevan is deemed not as good as any of the Kinsale back line with the exception of Bradfield an Jermey at either fullback or center half then I have real reservations about the knowledge this coaching team has about the players in its league.Bevan was picked last year to supply cover at either center half or full back an from what I have seen last season an this it was a good solid choice.To not even receive a call back if thats the case is a total an utter joke.Totally disrespectful.

    Lofty our keeper was recomended to the new manager by the old manager as the best replacement because Paddy wasnt available but the man made his own call.Unfortunatley the Wilton keeper had a run in with the last manager an wether its right or wrong those things follow ya around.Greaney could have been an option up front but it may have been the case , though as good as he is he had a tendency to react the wrong way if the refs didnt blow an in these one off games ya need your best players on the pitvh for 90 mins.

    Figo is injured an Harry Goulding was called to the 2 sessions but seemingly has been deemed not as good as what was picked,which from the whole selection is the worst omission of the lot in my view.With such a short time before the game all you can do is look to league form and the Gratts backline of Shinkwin.Harry an Brian Sull are the best 3 center halfs available to him.Especially if 3/5/2 is whats been spoken about.But again hes made his own decision.

    Gettings looked back to form in the game I saw him play an for me he would at the very least have more experience to bring to such a big game.Of the other Leeside lads,maybe the lad from Midelton is worth a shout alright as a holding midfielder.Though I will say the small lad up front for Leeside would not be a bad replacement for Paul O'Mahony,goin on what I saw against Dromee he got 2 super goals.

    We suffered last season against the Kerry team because they passed the ball around an through us at times in midfield an lookin at our midfield now it dosent look like a midfield that will chase an win the ball or even be capeble of gettin physcial and tryin to dominate.If im bein maybe to harsh Ill apoligise but Im only sayin it as I see it.

    I suppose we will all have a say an we will all think we are right,the Ballyvolane lads have a gripe too an well justified.They beat Park,Grattan an Kinsale,won the Mossie yet nothin.So much for doin well.The sweeper from Kanturk was superb in the Keane tournement the Aul played preseason,not selected either.The Polish lad up front for Park is the best Iv seen this season,an the Park center half was someone who id sign in a flash an considering how strong we are this year at center half thats sayin somtin.Hallesey is the best left sided midfielder in the league,goin forward or attacking an his delivery is second to none,of the players we were asked for everybody thought he would be a certain first 11,an especially so as delivery from corners an set peices could be vital..But thems the joys hope the man and the people who are helping him know what they are doing,,,,,,,,,,,,
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleman View Post
    Fair points all bein put across by all lads.A few questions being asked an I have some answers but not all.

    The keeper for Wilton is good,very good but there are top class keepers in our league who also didnt get picked.Personally I think the lad fro Dillons who had a trail game witht the Aul panel was worth a call.Also Dermot from Ballyvolane and last seasons Kanturk keeper.

    If Bevan is deemed not as good as any of the Kinsale back line with the exception of Bradfield an Jermey at either fullback or center half then I have real reservations about the knowledge this coaching team has about the players in its league.Bevan was picked last year to supply cover at either center half or full back an from what I have seen last season an this it was a good solid choice.To not even receive a call back if thats the case is a total an utter joke.Totally disrespectful.

    Lofty our keeper was recomended to the new manager by the old manager as the best replacement because Paddy wasnt available but the man made his own call.Unfortunatley the Wilton keeper had a run in with the last manager an wether its right or wrong those things follow ya around.Greaney could have been an option up front but it may have been the case , though as good as he is he had a tendency to react the wrong way if the refs didnt blow an in these one off games ya need your best players on the pitvh for 90 mins.

    Figo is injured an Harry Goulding was called to the 2 sessions but seemingly has been deemed not as good as what was picked,which from the whole selection is the worst omission of the lot in my view.With such a short time before the game all you can do is look to league form and the Gratts backline of Shinkwin.Harry an Brian Sull are the best 3 center halfs available to him.Especially if 3/5/2 is whats been spoken about.But again hes made his own decision.

    Gettings looked back to form in the game I saw him play an for me he would at the very least have more experience to bring to such a big game.Of the other Leeside lads,maybe the lad from Midelton is worth a shout alright as a holding midfielder.Though I will say the small lad up front for Leeside would not be a bad replacement for Paul O'Mahony,goin on what I saw against Dromee he got 2 super goals.

    We suffered last season against the Kerry team because they passed the ball around an through us at times in midfield an lookin at our midfield now it dosent look like a midfield that will chase an win the ball or even be capeble of gettin physcial and tryin to dominate.If im bein maybe to harsh Ill apoligise but Im only sayin it as I see it.

    I suppose we will all have a say an we will all think we are right,the Ballyvolane lads have a gripe too an well justified.They beat Park,Grattan an Kinsale,won the Mossie yet nothin.So much for doin well.The sweeper from Kanturk was superb in the Keane tournement the Aul played preseason,not selected either.The Polish lad up front for Park is the best Iv seen this season,an the Park center half was someone who id sign in a flash an considering how strong we are this year at center half thats sayin somtin.Hallesey is the best left sided midfielder in the league,goin forward or attacking an his delivery is second to none,of the players we were asked for everybody thought he would be a certain first 11,an especially so as delivery from corners an set peices could be vital..But thems the joys hope the man and the people who are helping him know what they are doing,,,,,,,,,,,,
    I'd agree with you bout our keeper JJ Lynch, would definately be one of the best around, I think Ballyvolane players are suffering for their poor league form last year, they won the Mossie Linnane but were lucky not to get relegated in the league and I'm sure last year against Knockavilla there wouldnt have been too many of them stood out, and this would stay with the manager, they've brought in a lot of new players this year and as the season progresses and they keep up their good form they'll be knocking on the door, I dont know what the criteria to get on the panel, last year we had Greg Kelly playing either left back or on the wing, nobody we played against came close to him, this season he joined Mayfield Seniors and is after going straight into the first team and has stood out even in this level and he wasnt given a look by the Oscar Traynor Boss. The same can be said for Clive Kiely a player with MSL experience who can win games single handedly. Maybe its because were seen as a small club. On another note I'm glad to see John Dennehy getting a chance, a willing runner who can score a goal from nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleman View Post
    Fair points all bein put across by all lads.A few questions being asked an I have some answers but not all.

    The keeper for Wilton is good,very good but there are top class keepers in our league who also didnt get picked.Personally I think the lad fro Dillons who had a trail game witht the Aul panel was worth a call.Also Dermot from Ballyvolane and last seasons Kanturk keeper.

    If Bevan is deemed not as good as any of the Kinsale back line with the exception of Bradfield an Jermey at either fullback or center half then I have real reservations about the knowledge this coaching team has about the players in its league.Bevan was picked last year to supply cover at either center half or full back an from what I have seen last season an this it was a good solid choice.To not even receive a call back if thats the case is a total an utter joke.Totally disrespectful.

    Lofty our keeper was recomended to the new manager by the old manager as the best replacement because Paddy wasnt available but the man made his own call.Unfortunatley the Wilton keeper had a run in with the last manager an wether its right or wrong those things follow ya around.Greaney could have been an option up front but it may have been the case , though as good as he is he had a tendency to react the wrong way if the refs didnt blow an in these one off games ya need your best players on the pitvh for 90 mins.

    Figo is injured an Harry Goulding was called to the 2 sessions but seemingly has been deemed not as good as what was picked,which from the whole selection is the worst omission of the lot in my view.With such a short time before the game all you can do is look to league form and the Gratts backline of Shinkwin.Harry an Brian Sull are the best 3 center halfs available to him.Especially if 3/5/2 is whats been spoken about.But again hes made his own decision.

    Gettings looked back to form in the game I saw him play an for me he would at the very least have more experience to bring to such a big game.Of the other Leeside lads,maybe the lad from Midelton is worth a shout alright as a holding midfielder.Though I will say the small lad up front for Leeside would not be a bad replacement for Paul O'Mahony,goin on what I saw against Dromee he got 2 super goals.

    We suffered last season against the Kerry team because they passed the ball around an through us at times in midfield an lookin at our midfield now it dosent look like a midfield that will chase an win the ball or even be capeble of gettin physcial and tryin to dominate.If im bein maybe to harsh Ill apoligise but Im only sayin it as I see it.

    I suppose we will all have a say an we will all think we are right,the Ballyvolane lads have a gripe too an well justified.They beat Park,Grattan an Kinsale,won the Mossie yet nothin.So much for doin well.The sweeper from Kanturk was superb in the Keane tournement the Aul played preseason,not selected either.The Polish lad up front for Park is the best Iv seen this season,an the Park center half was someone who id sign in a flash an considering how strong we are this year at center half thats sayin somtin.Hallesey is the best left sided midfielder in the league,goin forward or attacking an his delivery is second to none,of the players we were asked for everybody thought he would be a certain first 11,an especially so as delivery from corners an set peices could be vital..But thems the joys hope the man and the people who are helping him know what they are doing,,,,,,,,,,,,
    kanturk keeper from last year now with ringmahon seniors.

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    PROMOTION \ RELEGATION
    The following are the Promotion\Relegation arrangements for the current season.

    Premier: 2 relegated.
    Premier A: 2 promoted and 2 relegated.
    First Division: 1 promoted and 2 relegated from each section.
    Second Division: 1 promoted and 1 relegated from each section.
    Third Division: 2 promoted from each section.
    'If we play as one, we can beat any eleven'

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