Mayo Super League 2009

**rava** · 11/08/2009, 8:42 AM

You seem to be in the know. So what is going to happen this year or is it as laissez faire as excited said.

**Cloggs** · 11/08/2009, 8:49 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

That is scarey. So basically they will make a decision when the league is over.
No doubt this will depend on who finishes in the relegation places. This has Connaught or FAI appeal written all over it. Will the premier division have 12 teams next year then or will the bottom four just be relegated and so on. What a mess.

this is all rediculous and is a complete joke.surely if the league is thinking of making the super league an 8 team league then that should have been voted on by all of the clubs at the agm.its a farce to be honest!

**FahyForever** · 11/08/2009, 9:08 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

That is scarey. So basically they will make a decision when the league is over.
No doubt this will depend on who finishes in the relegation places. This has Connaught or FAI appeal written all over it. Will the premier division have 12 teams next year then or will the bottom four just be relegated and so on. What a mess.

Agreed. If Kilmore finish bottom and Westport B in the top two in the premier it will be one down one up. If Fahy finish second bottom it will be two down and up. If Celtic finish second bottom it will be one down and up. Etc. I think the first option is probable, and will save the Mayo League's blushes. It is utterly wrong and imbebilic that it should be as yet unconfirmed at the halfway point in the season though.

**rava** · 11/08/2009, 9:14 AM

Originally Posted by FahyForever

Agreed. If Kilmore finish bottom and Westport B in the top two in the premier it will be one down one up. If Fahy finish second bottom it will be two down and up. If Celtic finish second bottom it will be one down and up. Etc. I think the first option is probable, and will save the Mayo League's blushes. It is utterly wrong and imbebilic that it should be as yet unconfirmed at the halfway point in the season though.

I dont see how they will get away with that. Theres too much at stake and I'm sure there would be an appeal from the club finishing behind Westport B.

**Cloggs** · 11/08/2009, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by rava

I dont see how they will get away with that. Theres too much at stake and I'm sure there would be an appeal from the club finishing behind Westport B.

i think that the whole situation is going to open a huge can of worms.the mayo league are surely leaving themselves open to numerous appeals from various clubs if they are relegated/not promoted.

**murphs jewels** · 11/08/2009, 3:44 PM

Wouldn't the whole mess be sorted if we had a seperate division for reserve teams and then things would run smoothly. This nonsence has been going on for years and everyone is sick of it. Last year at the "Open Discussion Meeting" in the Welcome Inn hotel the only support for the reserve teams were them theirselves.
Swinford deserve a place in the SL (If the can maintain their position) like SnF did and to deny them would only cause major upheavel in Mayo football. Celtic B dont look to healthy at the moment and if the do get relegated then Celtic A would automaticaly be able to replace them in the Premier Division if the were to finish in the bottom 2.
But as i said this will only ever be sorted out if we get a seperate reserve league. I know people will say that you cannot put say Westport B in with Bangor Hibs B (Example) but in every football league you will have stronger teams playing weeker teams, thats just the way things are. There are 12 B teams and 1 C team in mayo football at the moment and I think its about time that the MAFL did something about it.
That meeting last year sorted nothing out and now look at the mess we have. No one knows whos moving and whos staying in any division.

**quay heart** · 11/08/2009, 9:52 PM

Originally Posted by murphs jewels

Wouldn't the whole mess be sorted if we had a seperate division for reserve teams and then things would run smoothly. This nonsence has been going on for years and everyone is sick of it. Last year at the "Open Discussion Meeting" in the Welcome Inn hotel the only support for the reserve teams were them theirselves.
But as i said this will only ever be sorted out if we get a seperate reserve league. I know people will say that you cannot put say Westport B in with Bangor Hibs B (Example) but in every football league you will have stronger teams playing weeker teams, thats just the way things are. There are 12 B teams and 1 C team in mayo football at the moment and I think its about time that the MAFL did something about it.
That meeting last year sorted nothing out and now look at the mess we have. No one knows whos moving and whos staying in any division.

westport b and erris b are in top four because they are better than most a teams.its up to other teams to raise their games or join a pub lge.

**murphs jewels** · 11/08/2009, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by quay heart

westport b and erris b are in top four because they are better than most a teams.its up to other teams to raise their games or join a pub lge.

Typical B team response. If these players were good enough then they would be in the A team. You dont see liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal reserves in the championship trying to get into the premiership even though they are prob better than half the lower placed teams in the premiership. A nonsence reply that we have been listening to for too long and has the Mayo league in a mess. Its time it was sorted

**mossy** · 12/08/2009, 8:32 AM

I thought the rule was/is simple.
If a team finish in the top 2 then promoted.
If a B team finish in top two then cannot be promoted but whereas in the past the teams finishing below them took their place this is now deemed unfair and foregone.
As regards B teams being better than the A teams in the Premier league then this is true on paper, but are they genuine B teams ?
Rumour has it that there is friction in the Port over this where some players want to play all matches - selfish *****s I say but it happens in all clubs including my own. Perhaps Celtic are the only ones who are carrying out the spirit of the law as well as the interpretation of the law. Certainly Manulla abused wholesale in the past as Westport are doing now.
To solve this problem we need to seperate the A players (ie the ones who play for the A team as opposed to those registered as A) and make it very difficult for them to play B. The most obvious way to stop this is to play both teams at the same time. That would ensure that at least 13/14 players are with the A team and those left should be genuine B.

**rava** · 12/08/2009, 8:42 AM

Originally Posted by quay heart

westport b and erris b are in top four because they are better than most a teams.its up to other teams to raise their games or join a pub lge.

Westport b have fielded stronger sides than their A team on many occassions this season, at least celtic will go down playing the same players week in week out. Westport have used A players at every available opportunity.

**rava** · 12/08/2009, 8:47 AM

Originally Posted by mossy

I thought the rule was/is simple.
If a team finish in the top 2 then promoted.
If a B team finish in top two then cannot be promoted but whereas in the past the teams finishing below them took their place this is now deemed unfair and foregone.
As regards B teams being better than the A teams in the Premier league then this is true on paper, but are they genuine B teams ?
Rumour has it that there is friction in the Port over this where some players want to play all matches - selfish *****s I say but it happens in all clubs including my own. Perhaps Celtic are the only ones who are carrying out the spirit of the law as well as the interpretation of the law. Certainly Manulla abused wholesale in the past as Westport are doing now.
To solve this problem we need to seperate the A players (ie the ones who play for the A team as opposed to those registered as A) and make it very difficult for them to play B. The most obvious way to stop this is to play both teams at the same time. That would ensure that at least 13/14 players are with the A team and those left should be genuine B.

Dont know why some people keep harping on about this promotion/ relegation rule. As it as been said on here before it was only a discussion,
no decision was ever made.

**GoodFootball** · 12/08/2009, 11:35 AM

New rule - No promotion just relegation because of the recession!

**paddyirishman** · 13/08/2009, 12:50 PM

Can someone comment on the standards of refereeing in the super league..i think the standard had been raised over the years but the last couple of years..the same refs seem to be getting worse. new refs would be greatly appreciated as i believe the current refs have become very bias. after watching a few games this year...a refs influence on most games has over come teams performances which is so wrong. a teams performance is what should win games not some crazy decesions.

Don't get me wrong its a very difficult job n they get alot of stick but is that why they have become bias...? i would like to hear a few opinions on this matter because it has really stood out this year in too many games for many different teams.

**the 12 th man** · 13/08/2009, 3:36 PM

Originally Posted by paddyirishman

Can someone comment on the standards of refereeing in the super league..i think the standard had been raised over the years but the last couple of years..the same refs seem to be getting worse. new refs would be greatly appreciated as i believe the current refs have become very bias. after watching a few games this year...a refs influence on most games has over come teams performances which is so wrong. a teams performance is what should win games not some crazy decesions.

Don't get me wrong its a very difficult job n they get alot of stick but is that why they have become bias...? i would like to hear a few opinions on this matter because it has really stood out this year in too many games for many different teams.

Think of some initiatives to get younger,fitter men into reffing and then things might change otherwise this has been done to death on foot.ie.

I admire anybody who has the "bottle" to be a ref these days.

**paddyirishman** · 13/08/2009, 4:01 PM

thats fair enough but there are no ways and the thing is,...
when refs start to have too much influence over results ....it is ruining the game...they are there t keep it under control and to keep it flowing... and to protect the players.. thats it.

**murphs jewels** · 13/08/2009, 5:32 PM

Due to the sudden death of Jimmy Blakes Wife all games in the Mayo league are posponed this weekend.

**Fair Play** · 14/08/2009, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by paddyirishman

thats fair enough but there are no ways and the thing is,...
when refs start to have too much influence over results ....it is ruining the game...they are there t keep it under control and to keep it flowing... and to protect the players.. thats it.

Yes I agree.....it is time that people like you take up the role of refereeing....we will then get the best referees, who are the fittest, know all the rules, apply them fairly and never ever make a mistake or not see an incident. We will have the perfect situation - do you not agree? Try it sometime, instead of criticising.

**paddyirishman** · 14/08/2009, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Fair Play

Yes I agree.....it is time that people like you take up the role of refereeing....we will then get the best referees, who are the fittest, know all the rules, apply them fairly and never ever make a mistake or not see an incident. We will have the perfect situation - do you not agree? Try it sometime, instead of criticising.

yes i apprciate the difficulty and they need every help possible. But when some major decision are made which seem bias it is hard to take.
I have tried it at friendly under 16.. i barely got the direction rite when there was a throw.. even when i saw who put it out..takes few secs t get that rite ha so i know how difficult it is but when u have a ref and 2 linesmen..i believe the linesmen don't stand out enough in some Major incidents and they leave it entirely up to the ref when they should at least consult. now sayin that they have been fantastic in some games so i can't complain about the linesmen. I think maybe Refs should confer with them more often infact! especially over major decisions before making the decision.
I do think they need help and it does need to be made more attractive for players to actually ref unnder age games etc so when they finish playing themselves maybe then they can ref at a higher level.