Fingal announce new iniaitive for junior supporters

**Maynard** · 25/03/2009, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

What

A girl of about 12 designed the mascot last year for a competition run in the local schools. She named him Fingal Freddie. Since when does the mascot have to have a direct connection with the club. Just have a look at other mascots for clubs around the world and tell me they all have have a connection with their club. Do me a favour mate, take you anger and negativity elsewhere.

Well fair play to the young girl for designing it and all. But other than it starting with an "F" I don't see any connection. Considering your entire crest is a giant bird, I really expected that a mascot of an avian nature would have been as wide as you cast your net.

I believe that Bray Wanderers (The Seagulls) Have "Sammy the Seagull" which is obviously connected; off the top of my head West Ham have a giant Hammer, Millwall have a lion, Hull a Tiger, Man Utd "Eric the Red Devil" et cetera et cetera et cetera

As it happens my class have contacted all the Dublin "commuter-belt" clubs (as part of a LOI drive/project) via email and Fingal got back to us (along with Bohs and Bray) and mentioned this initiative. So, again; a grudging fair play.

**CSFShels** · 25/03/2009, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by boris

seeing as we all moan about people not supporting loi teams

Sporting Fingal don't count here. This just applies to the other 21. Sporting Fingal are pretty much just there to be hated.

**ciaraa** · 25/03/2009, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Maynard

I believe that Bray Wanderers (The Seagulls) Have "Sammy the Seagull" which is obviously connected

Its actually Rocky the seagull - a giant gull who beat Drogs mascot (some kind of deformed lion) in penalties at half time during the cup semi in 05. Decent penalties too it must be said. In fact the general consensus on the terrace was that Rocky could feel aggrieved not to have been picked ahead of Tarzan O'Brien up front.

**dcfcsteve** · 26/03/2009, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

What

A girl of about 12 designed the mascot last year for a competition run in the local schools. She named him Fingal Freddie. Since when does the mascot have to have a direct connection with the club. Just have a look at other mascots for clubs around the world and tell me they all have have a connection with their club. Do me a favour mate, take you anger and negativity elsewhere.

In fairness - most mascots do actually have some sort of connection to their club though :

'Billy Blue' at Linfield.
'R mucker' (the candystriped tiger) at City.
H'angus the monkey at Hartlepool
The Owl at Sheffield Wednesday.
The fox at Leicester City.
The Seagull at Bray

You get the idea without me having to go on.....

**osarusan** · 26/03/2009, 12:17 AM

A 12-year-old girl came up with the name right? I'd imagine there was nothing more complicated involved than choosing an animal that began with an 'F'.

So bloody what if one mascot is the same animal as on the crest while another mascot isn't? Who honestly gives a f**k if there is any link between the club and the mascot?

Well dont to Fingal for going ahead with the creation of a young girl, and well done on the idea for junior supporters.

**Longfordian** · 26/03/2009, 9:03 AM

Originally Posted by Maynard

Well fair play to the young girl for designing it and all. But other than it starting with an "F" I don't see any connection. Considering your entire crest is a giant bird, I really expected that a mascot of an avian nature would have been as wide as you cast your net.

I believe that Bray Wanderers (The Seagulls) Have "Sammy the Seagull" which is obviously connected; off the top of my head West Ham have a giant Hammer, Millwall have a lion, Hull a Tiger, Man Utd "Eric the Red Devil" et cetera et cetera et cetera

As it happens my class have contacted all the Dublin "commuter-belt" clubs (as part of a LOI drive/project) via email and Fingal got back to us (along with Bohs and Bray) and mentioned this initiative. So, again; a grudging fair play.

Fred The Red actually

. The Town have had various Longford Lions as mascots, don't think we ever named them properly. One of them won a penalty shootout against Bray's seagull years ago much to the latter's displeasure. Marty The Monkey made an appearance a few times last year too

**mcgonigle** · 26/03/2009, 9:40 AM

Don't forget Lily the panda, a connection if ever there was one!

**Lamper.sffc** · 26/03/2009, 9:42 AM

Originally Posted by osarusan

A 12-year-old girl came up with the name right? I'd imagine there was nothing more complicated involved than choosing an animal that began with an 'F'.

So bloody what if one mascot is the same animal as on the crest while another mascot isn't? Who honestly gives a f**k if there is any link between the club and the mascot?

Well dont to Fingal for going ahead with the creation of a young girl, and well done on the idea for junior supporters.

Which is why I had my original confusion at maynards comment.

Originally Posted by CSFShels

Sporting Fingal don't count here. This just applies to the other 21. Sporting Fingal are pretty much just there to be hated.

By some shels fans who have a chip on there shoulder.

Originally Posted by Maynard

I believe that Bray Wanderers (The Seagulls) Have "Sammy the Seagull" which is obviously connected; off the top of my head West Ham have a giant Hammer, Millwall have a lion, Hull a Tiger, Man Utd "Eric the Red Devil" et cetera et cetera et cetera.

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

In fairness - most mascots do actually have some sort of connection to their club though :

'Billy Blue' at Linfield.
'R mucker' (the candystriped tiger) at City.
H'angus the monkey at Hartlepool
The Owl at Sheffield Wednesday.
The fox at Leicester City.
The Seagull at Bray

You get the idea without me having to go on.....

In fairness i did say that you couldnt tell me they all have a connection with their club. Of course you can find some that do, just like you can find some that dont

Reading have a lion

Leeds have a Tiger

Aston villa have a lion and cat

Preston have a duck

Damn you people for getting me into one of the worst arguments i have ever had on this site

**Schumi** · 26/03/2009, 10:32 AM

In fairness, a Candystriped Lion is a pretty tenuous connection too.

Damn you people for getting me into one of the worst arguments i have ever had on this site

You're just getting started.

**Ezeikial** · 26/03/2009, 11:08 AM

Unfortunately this thread has got polluted (like so many others) with negativity and begrudging attitudes - hardly informative or entertaining!

It seems that enduring juvenile sniping posts are the price that has to paid to for the real gems on this site

Well done Fingal on your efforts (and also to Bohemians, Shelbourne and any others who are putting in this effort) Congrats Pats on your 80c kids tickets promotion.

**Larry 'da' Wyse** · 26/03/2009, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Unfortunately this thread has got polluted (like so many others) with negativity and begrudging attitudes - hardly informative or entertaining!

It seems that enduring juvenile sniping posts are the price that has to paid to for the real gems on this site

Well done Fingal on your efforts (and also to Bohemians, Shelbourne and any others who are putting in this effort) Congrats Pats on your 80c kids tickets promotion.

POTM! Well said. Is it any wonder our League hasn't flourished when there are plenty supporters quick to mock and knock any bit of progress.

**Maynard** · 26/03/2009, 1:35 PM

Originally Posted by Larry 'da' Wyse

POTM! Well said. Is it any wonder our League hasn't flourished when there are plenty supporters quick to mock and knock any bit of progress.

Some of ye would want to get real here. And I certainly hope that the emboldended bit above is not directed at me as I have now stated twice in this thread my (albeit grudging) respect for the Sporting Fingal effort. Does this mean that we all have to fall in love with the club too?

Ye, let's all hold hands across Dublin between Pats, Bohs, Shels, Rovers, UCD and Fingal and say how great we all are.

I think I need a lie down away from this forum for a month.

**CSFShels** · 26/03/2009, 5:27 PM

Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

By some shels fans who have a chip on there shoulder.

Funnily enough no fans of other clubs openly disagreed with me on that opinion. So I'd wager its not just Shels fans that don't want you around.

**dfx-** · 26/03/2009, 5:33 PM

Originally Posted by gufc2000

Sporting Fingal Club Promotions Officer Conor Cullen says the scheme has been a huge success.

“The interest in it has been brilliant so far," said Cullen. "We’ve got over 350 kids already signed up, and that’s only in a handful of schools. Hopefully in the next few weeks we can have few hundred more sign up.

“The schools are so keen to sign up, as are the kids. Hopefully it will result in improved equipment for the schools, improved attendances at our games, and most importantly that the kids get some enjoyment from it.”

Calling Nicky Brennan to North Co. Dublin, that's Nicky Brennan to North Co. Dublin please.

**dcfcsteve** · 26/03/2009, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Schumi

In fairness, a Candystriped Lion is a pretty tenuous connection too.

You're just getting started.

It's only tenuous if you don't know what you're talking about.....

'The Candystriped tiger' was the name of a 1986 documentary on the phenomena that was city's retrun to football in 1985 by BBC1 Northern Ireland. The name stuck.

Also - you do understand that a lion and a tiger are two different animals....?

**dcfcsteve** · 26/03/2009, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

In fairness i did say that you couldnt tell me they all have a connection with their club. Of course you can find some that do, just like you can find some that dont

You're just plain wrong here mucker. The overwhelming majority of mascosts have some sort of connection with a club - it's history, its name, its colours, its crest, its location etc. Because that's the whole idea about a mascot - it should have some sort of meaning.

To prove the point, let's look at the examples you gave of ones you thought had no connection :

Reading have a lion : Their nickname is 'The Royals', and the lion is the king of the jungle. Hence that choice.

Leeds have a Tiger : That's 'Kop Kat' : a play on words between the Kop part of their stadium, and the old cartoon character 'Top Cat'

Aston villa have a lion and cat : Have you ever seen Villa's crest...?

Preston have a duck : 'Deepdale Duck'. Deepdale is their stadium : 'Me duck' is a term of endearment in Lancashire. A bit like City's mascot being called 'R Mucker'.

You may choose to argue that some of the above are tenuous - but they have some sort of reference back to their clubs none-the-less.

Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

Damn you people for getting me into one of the worst arguments i have ever had on this site

Indeed......

**HulaHoop** · 26/03/2009, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Unfortunately this thread has got polluted (like so many others) with negativity and begrudging attitudes - hardly informative or entertaining!

It seems that enduring juvenile sniping posts are the price that has to paid to for the real gems on this site

Exactly why this site is boycotted and christened fool.ie in some quarters

**Lamper.sffc** · 27/03/2009, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by CSFShels

Funnily enough no fans of other clubs openly disagreed with me on that opinion. So I'd wager its not just Shels fans that don't want you around.

RRRiiiiiggghhttttt

You win

**Lamper.sffc** · 27/03/2009, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

You're just plain wrong here mucker. The overwhelming majority of mascosts have some sort of connection with a club - it's history, its name, its colours, its crest, its location etc. Because that's the whole idea about a mascot - it should have some sort of meaning.

To prove the point, let's look at the examples you gave of ones you thought had no connection :

Reading have a lion : Their nickname is 'The Royals', and the lion is the king of the jungle. Hence that choice.

Leeds have a Tiger : That's 'Kop Kat' : a play on words between the Kop part of their stadium, and the old cartoon character 'Top Cat' (please)
Please

Aston villa have a lion and cat : Have you ever seen Villa's crest...?

Preston have a duck : 'Deepdale Duck'. Deepdale is their stadium : 'Me duck' is a term of endearment in Lancashire

. A bit like City's mascot being called 'R Mucker'.

You may choose to argue that some of the above are tenuous - but they have some sort of reference back to their clubs none-the-less.

Indeed......

No more than Fingal freddie in fairness. Is he any more tenuous than what is mentioned above. (really)
The original point still stands, the mascot does not have to have a direct connection with the club dont ya think. Please lets leave it there