New Manager for 2009 season

**don ramo** · 16/11/2008, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by chimpster

Jesus you bite easy!

Relax bud, i'm just voicin' an opinion.

Ok, so it would be great for the club to develop this pitch. But first priority has to be paying off debts, whatever money comes in for next season will have to go on making the club solvent first. Then we can look at development work...

but you see devolping the pitch would save us a fortune, so its a catch 22 id say take the hit and get the pitch first, or fundraise somehow to get it done,

**ballsac7** · 16/11/2008, 9:20 PM

Can't imagine Caulfield being interested in the Cobh job, by all accounts he gets handy money for expenses at Avondale already.

**Redshanks** · 17/11/2008, 10:59 AM

I was recently contacted about the pitch up at Carrignafoy. Aparently some youths have been using lit ately as a hot-rod driving track. That problem can be overcome as could the problem of the slope. I dont think the slope is as severe or as dangerous as some make out. Niether do i believe it would cost 100k to recitfy. What ever happened to voluntary help and effort? The sort that the GAA has done for years.
We all know peole with the appropriate machinery who would help out -and dare I say it- a few well planned fundraisers would pay for the materials. Its easier I know, to make excuses to avoid doing something than to get up off our arses and just do it!

**how is he** · 17/11/2008, 7:22 PM

it would be great to see an all cobh team next year. isn't it time the 3 soccer clubs in cobh got together and agreed on a way forward. the top 16 players to play in a first team, the next 16 on a second team and so on.

there's bound to be obstacles to overcome in coming to any sort of agreement but surely its worth a try?

**Ram72** · 17/11/2008, 8:36 PM

For the club to move forward, it needs to restructure. At the moment there is no structure in place. Maybe when the structures are put in place the club can move forward and realise it's potental.

**don ramo** · 18/11/2008, 2:24 AM

Originally Posted by how is he

it would be great to see an all cobh team next year. isn't it time the 3 soccer clubs in cobh got together and agreed on a way forward. the top 16 players to play in a first team, the next 16 on a second team and so on.

there's bound to be obstacles to overcome in coming to any sort of agreement but surely its worth a try?

will never happen and should never happen, its good to have a core of local talent, but were not in MSL, there simply isnt the pool of players available and willing to compete in LOI football, it should never happen as players that will make the club better wont be bought in cause there outsiders, yet would be a better addition to the team than any player in it,

murray and gutsie for example, our central defense, probably the best ever pairing in my memory, both wouldnt be here if this idea was taken onboard,

have a core of local players but not a squad of them

**Rambler1** · 18/11/2008, 11:38 AM

George Wilshaw as manager with Franko as Team Coach

**bellavistaman** · 18/11/2008, 3:14 PM

Originally Posted by don ramo

will never happen and should never happen, its good to have a core of local talent, but were not in MSL, there simply isnt the pool of players available and willing to compete in LOI football, it should never happen as players that will make the club better wont be bought in cause there outsiders, yet would be a better addition to the team than any player in it,

murray and gutsie for example, our central defense, probably the best ever pairing in my memory, both wouldnt be here if this idea was taken onboard,

have a core of local players but not a squad of them

Agree with the mority of that tbf

**the sub** · 18/11/2008, 7:16 PM

What about cronin ex waterford manager !!!

**Ram72** · 18/11/2008, 9:56 PM

Originally Posted by don ramo

will never happen and should never happen, its good to have a core of local talent, but were not in MSL, there simply isnt the pool of players available and willing to compete in LOI football, it should never happen as players that will make the club better wont be bought in cause there outsiders, yet would be a better addition to the team than any player in it,

murray and gutsie for example, our central defense, probably the best ever pairing in my memory, both wouldnt be here if this idea was taken onboard,

have a core of local players but not a squad of them

Totally agree, but we might not have a choice in what players we have and where they come from. Will players like Murray and Gutsie stay around if a top flight team come calling.

**Allstar** · 19/11/2008, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by Ram72

Totally agree, but we might not have a choice in what players we have and where they come from. Will players like Murray and Gutsie stay around if a top flight team come calling.

No chance.
Would you?????

**don ramo** · 19/11/2008, 2:10 AM

well lads welcome to the first division

**Redshanks** · 19/11/2008, 7:28 AM

Right lads- why not stop the bull****ting around and say what most people are thinking, what many are hoping for - even some players are now privately asking for - John Lawlor to manage. He has the experience -knows the game and certainly has the confidence of many players from years ago.
In this new situation where there will be little money around for the post- he will be the ideal man for the job -as he runs simply on heart and brains. Mind you, I know he wouldnt touch it with a barge pole at the moment- but if the right case and approach was made to him, I'm sure he'd have a good think about it.
People might make a good start by talking to the players for their ideas on this!

**jamesd** · 19/11/2008, 3:58 PM

Originally Posted by Redshanks

Right lads- why not stop the bull****ting around and say what most people are thinking, what many are hoping for - even some players are now privately asking for - John Lawlor to manage. He has the experience -knows the game and certainly has the confidence of many players from years ago.

I was just waiting to see how long it would take for Mr. Lawlor's name to appear on here!! If i am not mistaken, isn't this the same man who went about telling everyone what he would do to support the chairman only to jump ship sometime later??

I don't think we need someone like that around to be honest. When Dave Hill was in charge the same individual had nothing good to say about him.
Dave Hill and Hendo brought great professionalism to the team and if only the off pitch antics weren't happening, we could be in a far better situation.

Why not approach Dave Hill again and Hendo and together I believe they would be a formidable team!!

**rambler14** · 19/11/2008, 4:19 PM

Originally Posted by the sub

What about cronin ex waterford manager !!!

Crap Manager!

**Redshanks** · 19/11/2008, 8:10 PM

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to jump and attack the J. Lawlor suggestion, and wouldnt you believe - my friend James-Dean took the bait.
So lets get this right now. You say Lawlor is not suitable because he offered support to our club chairman and later withdrew that support = bad character/choice. Please explain!
Presumably he supported the chairman because at that time he believed the said person stood for something which he believed in. The fact that he later discovered that the chairman didnt live up to his expectations, thus withdrew that support and did so publicly, seems quiet normal and sensible to me. Good knows, people do the same thing every time theres a General Election. Politicians get votes based on promises, when they fail to live up to their promises- they lose the votes.
So now James Dean -you are telling us that Mr. Lawlor is wrong to lead because he had the balls to support someone publically and later withraw that support publically. I couldnt think of a better person to lead our team. Of course hes biggest problem at the moment is, hes probably too straight and up-front for many of the armchair know-alls at the club who ****e themselves everytime someone suggests change. Still James-Dean, nice to hear such an unbiased opinion from you as usual.

Lawlor for Trapattoni's Job!

**bellavistaman** · 19/11/2008, 8:23 PM

Originally Posted by jamesd

I was just waiting to see how long it would take for Mr. Lawlor's name to appear on here!! If i am not mistaken, isn't this the same man who went about telling everyone what he would do to support the chairman only to jump ship sometime later??!

As usual James D, you had to stoop to such childish lows as to personalise your arguement, Redshanks suggested a manager, a local manager, and you jumped in straght away and made it personal. Im not saying i want or dont want john lawlor as manager, but cut the **** that is quickly becoming your trademark that is the assasination of indiviual characters, i presume im not the only one getting fed up of. If a football forum, talk football, it is not a personality forum.

**how is he** · 19/11/2008, 8:31 PM

Originally Posted by Ram72

Totally agree, but we might not have a choice in what players we have and where they come from. Will players like Murray and Gutsie stay around if a top flight team come calling.

agree that the standard of the squad will prob drop if there was a 'cobh player policy'

just don't think the cobh public are interested in a mainly cork based team playing the likes of monaghan and wexford

could have limited number of outside players with a 'core' of 10-11 cobh players. the more cobh players, the more interest and support there will be around the town no matter who they're playing.

**Ram72** · 19/11/2008, 9:08 PM

Originally Posted by how is he

agree that the standard of the squad will prob drop if there was a 'cobh player policy'

just don't think the cobh public are interested in a mainly cork based team playing the likes of monaghan and wexford

could have limited number of outside players with a 'core' of 10-11 cobh players. the more cobh players, the more interest and support there will be around the town no matter who they're playing.

Lets get a manager in place first and see what players we have in the squad and get behind them. Regards where the players are from, that wont make any difference to our support until the last game of the seaon as long as we are a few points clear at the top of the table and about to win the 1st division and promotion.

**jamesd** · 19/11/2008, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by bellavistaman

As usual James D, you had to stoop to such childish lows as to personalise your arguement, Redshanks suggested a manager, a local manager, and you jumped in straght away and made it personal. Im not saying i want or dont want john lawlor as manager, but cut the **** that is quickly becoming your trademark that is the assasination of indiviual characters, i presume im not the only one getting fed up of. If a football forum, talk football, it is not a personality forum.

Bella, I hate to correct you here, but if you look at what Red had said and what I was replying to, you will see clearly that Red had indeed named the person.
I am entitled to my opinion like anyone else and I apologise if that causes offence. I have been upfront about it and thats it. But regardless what I think, I will always support the majority decision no matter how I personally may not like it.