Text speak is not allowed on the site.Originally Posted by celticlads
No douth about the gap between north and south teams.In reality any north team would struggle to compete down there at the moment.The villa v clodagh game is not a fair reflection however,the gap is not that wide.
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sorry only new to the site, but is there any truth in it??
I still think the top four in North Tipp would compete down in South Tipp. Case in point Clough lost on penalties to Clonmel Town.
On the other hand, why are the south tipp teams still playing amongst themselves and why dont they push on to try and compete in the Munster Senior League?
Newtown Celtic FC RIP (1992-2007)
Clough were unlucky fair point,but do u think any north team could play that well week in week out because thats what it would take to compete down there.At the moment i would have to say no.
Well I guess it depends how you define compete. Ive no doubt that if u put the top four in the South Tipp Premier then they would stay up.
We played Rosegreen two weeks ago, they are a Premier team and are no way near as good as Celtic, Town, Blackcastle or Clough.
On the other hand as above no one seems to want to comment on why the South Tipp sides want to say they are better than North Tipp. Why dont the compare themselves to Munster Senior teams and try and push themselves on to reach that level?
Newtown Celtic FC RIP (1992-2007)
bawn what is this obsession with south teams playing in MSL??? anyone who follows junior football knows it would not be viable due to travelling and the fact that st michaels and clonmel town are streets ahead of 90% of MSL sides and that is not an opinion but a fact,clonmel have anihilated 2 MSL sides in Munster senior cup in last 6 weeks and clonmel are struggling at present,the south tipp league is a strong league which sets up micheals and town for a good crack at fai and munster junior cups each season,nenagh would be competitive in south tipp but blackcastle are an extremely poor side,as for rosegreen they are a certainty for relegation already this season but i would fancy them to beat blackcastle 9 times out of ten,they actually took a point against saint michaels already this season
What would you think of an all tipp cup,i know we would be all for it as it would bring our game on a great deal plus alot of the questions on this site would be answered aswell.
Yes they would probably stay up but in my eyes thats not competing,i would be of the opinion that to compete you would have to get into the top 3.Maybe after 2 or3 seasons this would be possible but to go down and do it in your first year i dont know could any north team do it.
Well in my understanding it is the next level up, maybe it isnt. If it isnt then maybe the South Tipp teams should be aiming at the next level up.
For North Tipp Teams aiming at the next level that would be an all Tipp league.
I just dont like south tipp teams saying that they would hammer the north tipp teams when the south tipp teams dont want to try and make the next step up themselves. Are they too content being big fish in a small pond?
Thats my point really.
As for Rosegreen, unless they had a very poor side against us they would lose about 7 out of 10 times against blackcastle.
Newtown Celtic FC RIP (1992-2007)
the south tipp teams like saint michaels,clonmel town and peake villa strive to win provincial cups and national cups,they have dominated the munster cup in recent seasons......thats the progression.....its not a lack of ambition that you stay in a successful league....there is no need to leave something thats recognised and something that works,how could we possibly have an all tipp league....the north pitches are a disgrace,however an all tipp cup would be positive and it would be a start,i am not trying to slate north tipp but in terms of facilities and so on they have to realise the difference in the two leagues,some of the lesser lights in south tipp have the best pitches in the country,bansha and cahir are carpets
Would i be right in saying that msl teams are mainly average.Judging on past results Clonmel, saints,pike,carrick and others of this quality beat most msl teams every year.As regaurds pitches never seen Bansha but Cahir is the best ive ever seen.
Fair enough but we are getting a slating by some for trying to be ambitious.
My own club has an ambitious plan to set up a facility similar to Cahir.
Anyway hopefully we will have an All-Tipp cup, it will do a lot for improving the standard in North Tipp playing against consistently good opposition. In fairness probably won't do a lot for the South Tipp teams but Im sure ye will be happy to be able to claim bragging rights.
I spend a good bit of time in Cahir and have played on their pitch, fantastic facilities alright fair play to them.
The next question on the agenda is
Do you think South Tipp would be able to sustain a League of Ireland Club, something similar to Wexford Youth?
Newtown Celtic FC RIP (1992-2007)
if south tipp pulled together they would have a better selection of players,numerous south tipp players have played league of ireland in recent times,however they would never pull together,its the same with the oscar traynor,saints and town players dont mix
So has Trappatoni been down to open Brickfields yet?
I havent been in to see the new Club house but I hear its looking great.
Newtown Celtic FC RIP (1992-2007)
Yes he has, that's all I know tbh I won't be able to see the clubhouse till I'm home for Christmas.
The club house is top class,4 big dressing rooms downstairs and open plan upstairs at the moment not sure whats going up there.Huge building,cant wait to visit to play your A-team down there and of course beat ye HAHA.
I was wondering what happened to u Big Ears, you gone to college abroad or something is it?
Newtown Celtic FC RIP (1992-2007)
Ya I've gone to University in Middlesbrough to do a Sports Science Degree.
I think the plan with the upstairs of the clubhouse is to rent out half of the upstairs to recoup some of the money spent and after that who knows.
Celtic beat us at home ?, never gonna happen
I still actually prefer playing in Islandbawn though, that'll always feel like home to me.
Last edited by Big Ears; 27/10/2008 at 4:27 PM.
I have to agree Islanbawn is a better pitch alright but Brickfields is looking great know fair play and in time to come should become the base.Once the pitch is right they should all play down there and maybe use Islanbawn for training As,Bs and youths only,what do you think?Ya I've gone to University in Middlesbrough to do a Sports Science Degree.
I think the plan with the upstairs of the clubhouse is to rent out half of the upstairs to recoup some of the money spent and after that who knows.
Celtic beat us at home ?, never gonna happen
I still actually prefer playing in Islandbawn though, that'll always feel like home to me.
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