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    Quote Originally Posted by old git View Post
    c'mon now you are 17 and the team you supported since you were a child wants you to sign... sign and take your chances for a couple of years and then move on if still in reserves ... dont come out at 28 with all this sh*ite about a boyhood dream finally happening
    I'm pretty sure, he's said before that he's been a Liverpool fan all his life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superfrank View Post
    I'm pretty sure, he's said before that he's been a Liverpool fan all his life.
    That's not the point he is making. He is saying that if Keane was such a huge Liverpool fan then why would you turn them down when your 17?
    He could have fulfilled his dreams there and then but choose his personal well being over his club?

    Keane is average at best anyway he aint good enough for Liverpool!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    That's not the point he is making. He is saying that if Keane was such a huge Liverpool fan then why would you turn them down when your 17?
    He could have fulfilled his dreams there and then but choose his personal well being over his club?
    The way I see it, he'd rather drop down a division to get first team football rather than waste around in the Liverpool youth teams and reserves for a few years.
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    ofcourse youd pick your own well being over a club at the age of 17!! he was advised correctly IMO.
    Gerrard took LESS money than Chelsea offered him. Torres took a pay-cut to join Liverpool. Berb took less money at United than City had offered him. the players cant help it if the game is offering them this kind of cash.
    would any of you say "ah jasus no - i dont want any more money thanks"? NOBODY would.

    money is ruinin transfer prices and wages but you cannot blame the players.

    Keane had high hopes as a player and had enough confidence in himself to think something along the lines of "i wont get into that team for a few years but il get into Wolves and get my career started early"

    took alot of balls if ya ask me. look at Partridge,stayed a reserve until he was 25 or something. waste!

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    It didn't start this year but English football will ultimately be destroyed by money. The more money the top clubs have the less English players will play top level. In 5 years it will be hard to find an English player in the top 4 sides. The gap between the Premier League & Championship will get bigger so relegated sides that can't get promoted within 2 seasons will slide down the leagues in sea of debt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie View Post
    ofcourse youd pick your own well being over a club at the age of 17!! he was advised correctly IMO.
    Gerrard took LESS money than Chelsea offered him. Torres took a pay-cut to join Liverpool. Berb took less money at United than City had offered him. the players cant help it if the game is offering them this kind of cash.
    would any of you say "ah jasus no - i dont want any more money thanks"? NOBODY would.

    money is ruinin transfer prices and wages but you cannot blame the players.

    Keane had high hopes as a player and had enough confidence in himself to think something along the lines of "i wont get into that team for a few years but il get into Wolves and get my career started early"

    took alot of balls if ya ask me. look at Partridge,stayed a reserve until he was 25 or something. waste!
    personally i think he should have joined at 17 and taken his chances with reserves for a couple of seasons if no luck then move on ... he has been extremley lucky to get a second bite at liverpool
    will agree not to many players will turn down the money they are being offered

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    Quote Originally Posted by old git View Post
    personally i think he should have joined at 17 and taken his chances with reserves for a couple of seasons if no luck then move on ... he has been extremley lucky to get a second bite at liverpool
    will agree not to many players will turn down the money they are being offered

    Why shouldn't the players get what they deserve from football. The amount of hard work it takes to get to that level maybe 100s of 1000s of hours of training and a hell of alot of sacrifice.

    The club's are making a fortune off TV monies and merchandising. Why shouldn't they take their share? They deserve it.

    Fair enough the prices have gone through the roof but it's no more than any other thing in life. Fuel, Telephone, Television License, Food, a half decent car, the price of a good night out...

    The best players will get paid the best money that's how life works whether your a top class lawyer or a shipping clerk. You will want to get paid what you think you deserve and what the company are willing to offer you.

    My arguement to those two scousers would be. How much have your wages increased over the 30year period?
    Had you a family when you were galavanting off to "every corner of the world"?

    I seriously doubt it....
    Because at no time was it possible to do that with a family....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    Man City had 47K last Saturday. Wigan (rugby league town), Bolton and Blackburn never had much support and it's nothing to do with the price of admission. The following just isn't there. Sunderland is usually sold out. Look at the price of our own international tickets. If the demand is there, the price will be sky high.
    Yea but how many will City have when they dont play a big team??

    Now they have money it may well be sold out every week.

    I have seen more than a few Sunderland games and it was not sold out.

    Ireland tickets are rip off IMO,I would not pay what is it 55 euro?? i think last game i was at Ireland v Slovakia it was 55 match was crap so was the atmosphere,apart from the Slovakia fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfrank View Post
    I'm pretty sure, he's said before that he's been a Liverpool fan all his life.

    He said the same about Celtic and Leeds AFAIK.

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    In 5 years it will be hard to find an English player in the top 4 sides.
    It's hard as it is. The team that usually fields the most has a British manager. Co-incidence? I think not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Why shouldn't the players get what they deserve from football. The amount of hard work it takes to get to that level maybe 100s of 1000s of hours of training and a hell of alot of sacrifice.

    The club's are making a fortune off TV monies and merchandising. Why shouldn't they take their share? They deserve it.
    Spot on. Don't get me wrong, I think money has ruined top flight football, but if a player is offered that type of cash who's going to turn it down? Do you think CRonaldo turning around and telling United he only need 10k a week instead of 125k would bring the ticket prices down? United would just pocket the other 115k and have a laugh about what an idiot CRonaldo is.

    Keep in mind how short a footballer's career is in comparison to the rest of us as well

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    Just heard a lovely story on Revista De La Liga.
    Joseba Exteberria is negotiating his own contract with Athletic Bilbao. He wants to negotiate a new contract that will earn him 20,000euro Per Annum.
    He says he owes the club alot and wants to give something back.
    Exteberria was great player (not at the peak of his powers anymore) and has set a fine example. Bilbao are a lovely club and are a model to what can be done if things are done right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian1890 View Post
    He said the same about Celtic and Leeds AFAIK.
    no he didnt

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    Quote Originally Posted by see's it View Post
    no he didnt
    Yes he did.


    http://www.spurspies.tv/2008/04/see_...damien_du.html

    Here he is following Celtic,he has also said "i have followed Celtic since i was a kid".

    Leeds fans sing a song about him being a Leeds fan all his life,apparently he said it when he signed.

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