How much worse can it get?

**Martinho II** · 25/08/2008, 8:46 PM

Originally Posted by RonnieB

Quite the genius stroke telling the players they are ****e and none of them will be playing for him next season. As already stated by De Town, why would you bother after been pretty much told yer out the door anyway.

Then again I know of players not being told they are in the squad then getting told 20 minutes before kickoff they are.

would that be adrian cregg by any chance ronnie??

**Martinho II** · 25/08/2008, 8:52 PM

[QUOTE=De Town;100643 Aaron went into the dressing room about 2 months ago and told the whole squad that they were pure ****e and that none of them will be playing for him next season.

if thats the case it explains why we have lost six of our last seven games. few of us in section o reckon that callaghan perth partnership is just not happenin.. too many comins and goins.. a major problem i have with the club this season is we dont know certain players have gone the only way you find out is if you know anybody close to the club plus we never know where our new signings come from.. its bad professionalism from the club.. the way our season is finishin i expect a change in management soon.. maybe we should have listened to the athlone lads when we appointed aaron.. i have no problem with aaron as a person but i dont think its suits him bein a manager personality wise.. we saw him in the past on numerous occasions as asst mgr bein sent off how could we expect to change him? but strangely enough he hasnt bein sent off yet, vinny has

**Rocky77** · 25/08/2008, 9:03 PM

Originally Posted by Ash

Must stop Pauro getting home ....

From what I've heard, Aaron and Vinny have lost the dressing room and the players reckon they are bluffers

I heard the opposite from one of the lads that left over the summer. Seemed Aaron reckoned that a lot of the fringe players and amateurs were to be released before injuries struck. He put it to me that with Shay retired, Ryan O'Donnell gone and Bermingham, Frawley and Casey injured our first-choice back five were gone. Hardly the basis of success.

He said he loved workign with the boys and was sorry to leave.

That said, there's no way we should have lost as many games as we did in series 3.

**RonnieB** · 25/08/2008, 9:09 PM

Originally Posted by Martinho II

would that be adrian cregg by any chance ronnie??

Actually it isn't, this player is still with the club.

**Martinho II** · 25/08/2008, 9:28 PM

Originally Posted by RonnieB

Actually it isn't, this player is still with the club.

ronnie pm me with the details will you please??

**Salmon Coloured** · 26/08/2008, 7:28 AM

Originally Posted by RonnieB

You will be by yourself salmon

we play monaghan on Saturday night in flancare

Thanks for the heads up Ronnie. Im hoping to make the game Saturday evening. Things looking bleak right now. I wont give up on anyone running the club just yet. Vinny Perth is in first season in Management & id give him time. As for Aaron i dont know, Athlone were terrible under him but i suppose we do have injuries. Anyway if any of ye thought this season was going to smell of roses you were mistaken. This could be a very long haul.

**Massop 10** · 26/08/2008, 10:42 AM

I'm sick to the back teeth of hearing this crap about injuries ! Look at the size of the squad that was there at the start of the season and not to many were given a chance and even now there is good players not getting a look in. There seems to be favortism towards some players which is a downfall in any club in any sport. I realy am questioning if the managment has what it takes now that the pressure is on. I also have to question the training that is been done as the team seems to be running out of steam in the last 15 or so minutes of games or is it just the lack of intrest. This would figure if Aaron told them they are sh**e anyway. If it is true that he said that then he should be let go with imediate effect as he is a total negitive to the team. I personally think the club is now in a downward spiral as a result of what is going on in the dressing room and on the pitch. The hard and trojan work been carried out by the people in the background is becoming a waste of time because in my opinion there is something fundamentaly wrong somewhere along the chain of command from the very top to the playing staff. GET IT SORTED for the sake of the club as a whole !!!!!

**Cabs88** · 26/08/2008, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Martinho II

if thats the case it explains why we have lost six of our last seven games. few of us in section o reckon that callaghan perth partnership is just not happenin.. too many comins and goins.. a major problem i have with the club this season is we dont know certain players have gone the only way you find out is if you know anybody close to the club plus we never know where our new signings come from.. its bad professionalism from the club.. the way our season is finishin i expect a change in management soon.. maybe we should have listened to the athlone lads when we appointed aaron.. i have no problem with aaron as a person but i dont think its suits him bein a manager personality wise.. we saw him in the past on numerous occasions as asst mgr bein sent off how could we expect to change him? but strangely enough he hasnt bein sent off yet, vinny has

in fairness there were always gonna be comings and goings this season as we had to assemble nearly an entire squad with time running out before the season started, trying out players and letting them go. I agree with ur argument about the club not releasing information, but we have always been poor with regards pr.
I believe that vinny and aaron should be given time before everyone condemning them, vinny is new to the management side of things, he will make mistakes, and Callaghan is one of the most qualified coaches in the league, that doesnt mean he should be kept on those merits, but surely its time some of the players stood up and be counted.

**Martinho II** · 26/08/2008, 9:19 PM

theres no excuses at all. damien rushe has bein playin for years with athlone. ryan casey has experience in the top flight with cork city. pats ,galway utd. darren mckenna has played in the top flight with mons and played for kildare co ,shels.neil gallagher with dundalk and ucd.. and then there s daire doyle.. the lack of leadership is shockin...

**Rocky77** · 27/08/2008, 1:44 PM

Originally Posted by Massop 10

This would figure if Aaron told them they are sh**e anyway. If it is true that he said that then he should be let go with imediate effect as he is a total negitive to the team.

Thing is, i'd be amazed if there was a manager in the League who HADN'T at one point or another called their players s***e. It goes on, I know it does, and it sounds worse out of context anyway. It's how the players react that matters. They've all got contracts and should be prepared to see them out in a professional.

**Massop 10** · 27/08/2008, 3:46 PM

As far as i know most of the players are on amateur terms so with them not getting paid they will need motavation not been told after a game that they are sh**e when I'm sure at this stage they must be feeling like that anyway with the record so far this season. It is ok to point out mistakes and show how to fix it but point blank calling someone sh**e is not the answer as that is a quick way to lose a dressing room which i think is what has happened ! Last friday the team showed as much intrest (with the exception of 1 or 2) as someone going to get a tooth pulled !! Something looks rotten in the set-up.

**Salmon Coloured** · 27/08/2008, 4:12 PM

I like Massop 10's intensity.

**Battery Rover** · 27/08/2008, 4:24 PM

The way things are going Athlone vs Longford on the last day of the season could be a relegation play off decider

**Longfordian** · 27/08/2008, 5:29 PM

I don't know if the teams in the A League will finish high enough but that's a scary thought. Athlone could finish above us for the first time in what 10 or 11 seasons?

**Battery Rover** · 27/08/2008, 5:38 PM

Originally Posted by Longfordian

Athlone could finish above us for the first time in what 10 or 11 seasons?

As it was always meant to be. Normal service resumed

**RonnieB** · 27/08/2008, 5:47 PM

Sneaky hoors, taking us down from the inside

**Rocky77** · 27/08/2008, 7:50 PM

I'm not particularly interested in players who need their noses wiped and a hug from mammy if their manager has harsh words. They need to get a grip, this is SENIOR football. Doolin, Fenlon, Rico etc would have had harsh words for their players over the years and it hasn't done them any harm. If they think they're being under-appreciated there's only one answer.

Salmon Coloured, how do you like that for intensity?

**Ash** · 28/08/2008, 9:03 AM

Originally Posted by Martinho II

ryan casey has experience in the top flight with cork city. pats ,galway utd.

Correction to that ... Ryan Casey has experience in top flight with physios from cork city, pats ,galway utd.

**Salmon Coloured** · 28/08/2008, 9:31 AM

Originally Posted by Rocky77

I'm not particularly interested in players who need their noses wiped and a hug from mammy if their manager has harsh words. They need to get a grip, this is SENIOR football. Doolin, Fenlon, Rico etc would have had harsh words for their players over the years and it hasn't done them any harm. If they think they're being under-appreciated there's only one answer.

Salmon Coloured, how do you like that for intensity?

Its up there & keep that standard up. Too much bluff on this Forum sometimes. Lets keep it intense or you can go on the Sporting Fingal section.

**Massop 10** · 28/08/2008, 9:55 AM

Look I know it is SENIOR football but any good man-manager knows that the only way to get the best out of your staff is to show RESPECT to them and have a CONSTRUCTIVE way of pointing out wrong doings ! Any top manager in football or business will tell you that. I have played enough differant sports to have found this out and also managed people in business to know how you get best results. I also know that the team i play for at the moment is doing well because everybody shows each other respect and goes the extra mile for the team, this is what is missing in the town team !!! I have seen how some Gaa managers operate and thats where I see a total lack of respect and its like a dictatorship and these are the LESS successful ones. Of course players have to take it if a manager goes off on one in the heat of the moment but at the same time the manager must also be man enough to realise if he went to far and sort out any differances before it affects the team spirit. That is where Fenlon, Richardson, Matthews, Kenny got there success from - Players WANTED to play for them. Who wants to play for a manager who just says "your sh**e" if you just had a stinker of a game and you think that yourself already !! Thats when you need a positive word or two and at the next training session the manager should point out the mistakes and ways to improve it. Even more so with a young squad like the town this season.