Why do'nt Cliftonville and Donegal Celtic merge to form Belfast Celtic and play in the League of Ireland?
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Why do'nt Cliftonville and Donegal Celtic merge to form Belfast Celtic and play in the League of Ireland?
Even better, why dont Pats, Bohs, Shams, Shels and UCD merge to be Dublin United?? Cliftonville are North Belfast and Donegal Celtic are West Belfast, with two different fan bases, traditions etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingdomkerry
And what are these two clubs thoughts on playing in the league of Ireland like Derry?
Why not go back to 1969 and have another Battle of the Bogside!?Quote:
Originally Posted by kingdomkerry
Silly suggestion, sounds more political than anything else!
They're happy where they are. Derry were forced out!Quote:
Originally Posted by kingdomkerry
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I asked them for their "thoughts" on joining the LOI is all??Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar
Appreciated, but wouldn't be a good idea :oQuote:
Originally Posted by kingdomkerry
Why not?? We need more diversity in the league. Nobody wants to see a dublin and a few others league!
First of all because UEFA wouldn't allow it. Derry only came in as there wasn't any alternative!Quote:
Originally Posted by kingdomkerry
Secondly, why did you chose Cliftonville/DC rather than Linfield, Portadown, Glentoran etc.?
We can't leave politics rule sport!
Surely it would make sense for the 2 clubs in west Belfast - DC and Linfield or the 2 clubs in north Belfast to merge Crusaders and Cliftonville. In reality it doesn't make sens for any of them to merge.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingdomkerry
They'll never merge I'd say! and as for playing in the EL well can't see it happening in the forseeable future! don't know if playing Longford or Cobh would attract as many fans as the North Belfast derby or a match against the Glens would!Quote:
Why do'nt Cliftonville and Donegal Celtic merge to form Belfast Celtic and play in the League of Ireland?
Exactly! I'd say an all Ireland league is a more favourable idea if you want a better variety of teams! things have moved on politically maybe it could be worked out some day but I'll not hold my breath!Quote:
Secondly, why did you chose Cliftonville/DC rather than Linfield, Portadown, Glentoran etc.?
We can't leave politics rule sport!
Linfield are south Belfast but their ground is close to west Belfast to be fair!Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
Donegal Celtic's Chairmain is on the record having stated that his club are committed to playing in the Irish League, under the authority of the Irish Football Association.
Here's an interesting thought:
Why don't Rangers and Celtic merge to form "Glasgow United", and apply to join the English League?:rolleyes:
Sweet God - where do you start with this one......! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by kingdomkerry
Sure go on, im interested!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
In summary :Quote:
Originally Posted by kingdomkerry
1) Why should they merge ? Is it just because you consider them 'Catholic' ?
2) Why would they want to merge ? They're 2 very different clubs with very different histories, serving different communities. And they're rivals.
3) Why would thye not only merge but then erase any sense of their previous identites by adopting the title of a team that died 60yrs ago that they have no connection with ?
4) The Belfast Celtic name is actually owned by someone, so couldn't just be adopted willy nilly. It's current owner has expressed no interest in seeing the club revived, nor is there any pressure form anyone in Belfast to revive the club.
5) Why should they move league if they did or even didn't merge ? Again, is it just because you consider them Catholic teams in a league you consider predominantly Protestant?
6) Why would the EL want to accept them ? In particular, Donegal Celtic would add nothing to either a merger or the EL. They have no fans and an absolutely dreadful ground.
7) Why would anyone in UEFA/FIFA sit by and let it happen without kicking-up an almighty fuss ?
8) Why would anyone in the Northern Irish assembly and Irish government not put serious pressure on the FAI to stop any such move ?
And that's only a brief summary for starters.
Sure why not amalgamate Kerry and Cork counties and call the joint thing 'Kark' instead.
You're usually a sensible head on here KH, but you've been on the wacky pills with this one I'm afraid.
If any Northern team will be joining the Eircom League it will be Linfield, however I can't see that happening...
Its worse than dreadful. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Good idea.Quote:
Sure why not amalgamate Kerry and Cork counties and call the joint thing 'Kark' instead.
Then saw it off and push it out to sea.
It's time people forgot about teams changing leagues etc.
The only way we'll have an all-ireland league is if their is a break-away between the LOI and Irish League teams.
And even then it is not feaseable unless we get some sort of UEFA blessing and have our European places still intact. But how would it work with an independant governing body who has no say in the two National sides I don't know.
However I do not think unifying the two leagues would help standards much anyway. Sure their will be a few more bigger games, but what really would it change?
It would certainly raise the standard. There are about 8 good sides in the Eircom League and about 4 in the Carnegie League. It would certainly help Linfield playing Drogheda/Cork/Derry than playing glorified amateur sides such as Limavady/Armagh/Institute. Lesser teams can drag quality sides down to their level. I fear Linfield are currently being dragged down by the very poor standard of the rest of the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Bruce
No I think DJ is dragging our standard down with his tactics or lack of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graemerz
While admittedly there has been a distinct upsurge in my consumption of wacky pills (lovely strong batch came in from Pakistan recently) of late, unfortunately they don't quite induce clarity to an extent that allows me to infiltrate my sister's account; she's Kerry, I'm Hoop - clearly our parents were on the wacky pills too.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Apology accepted in advance. :)
So you're essentially telling me that you're not a sensible head then....? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kingdom hoop
Too many Kingdoms, so little time. Apologies for not seeing through the false moustache and glasses. :)
Meh, only in the same way that you tell someone you love them but you don't love everything they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
I might make sense but I don't do sense, ****, hang on, does that make sense?
You know - I've never seen you and Kerry Hoop in the same room at the same time together.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingdom hoop
And you do look very similar.
Hmmm.....
Would love to see Glasgows ugly sisters move to the premiership playing big clubs every week would take its toll on their players and expose how s***e they really are!Quote:
Originally Posted by Not Brazil
criticising DJ after all that hes done at Linfield:eek:Quote:
No I think DJ is dragging our standard down with his tactics or lack of.
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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce
Sounds like some people are spoilt rotten. DJ was the best manager in he league, that was until E Patterson came along.
Think he is the best that money can buy in the Irish league and that's why he is at Linfield.
If you think someone can do better. Who?
Also think that it has come to a stage that Linfield don't have it all their own way anymore and some people don't like it.
I know - it's desperate altogether!Quote:
Originally Posted by whitewell red
We had to settle for a League and Cup double last year.:cool:
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Originally Posted by Not Brazil
OK but how confident are you about wining a double this year, think a few years ago Linfield would usually have win the lot.
PS
I think I remember the Irish league having about five or six cups up for grabs in one season, Is this right or was I dreaming?
You're right. I guess you have to be right about summit!!;)Quote:
Originally Posted by whitewell red
Very confident about retaining the Gibson Cup - anything else on top is a bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by whitewell red
The rest of your comment is just nonsense.
We were thrown out...blessing in disguise it was too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar
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Originally Posted by Not Brazil
Are you only confident about wining the Gibson cup?
because that's what it sounds like
if so, how is what I said nonsense
and for the Gibson cup, if we don't win it I can't see past the glens, they are twice the team the blues are this year.
Wait a minute while I laugh my ballix off...Quote:
Originally Posted by whitewell red
Not true I'm afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by dortie
We resigned from the Irish league on 13th October 1972 - because we weren't allowed to return to the Brandywell by the Irish League Management Committee (despite the security forces confirming games there presented no risk).
Though you're definitely right that it was a blessing in disguise..... :D
Oh ffs.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by whitewell red
FOREVER IN OUR SHADOW :cool: