Do Londoners Speak English?

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26/10/2007, 12:40 PM
pete

Do Londoners Speak English?

Sky News

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Miami Dolphins linebacker Channing Crowder has admitted not knowing people speak English in London.

The NFL player might want to check a map to see where he's playing Sunday's prestige game against the New York Giants at Wembley Stadium.

Crowder, who comes from Atlanta in Georgia, may be praised on the field, but confessed geography was not his strong point.

He admitted he did not know until now where London was - or that Londoners spoke English.

"I couldn't find London on a map if they didn't have the names of the countries," he said.
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"I swear to God. I don't know what nothing is. I know Italy looks like a boot. I learned that."

Crowder added: "I know (Washington Redskins linebacker) London Fletcher. We did a football camp together. So I know him.

"That's the closest thing I know to London. He's black, so I'm sure he's not from London. I'm sure that's a coincidental name."

The Miami Dolphins are play the New York Giants at Wembley this Sunday in the first NFL regular-season game to be played outside the United States.

:D :eek:
26/10/2007, 12:43 PM
jebus

He's black, so I'm sure he's not from London.

He's in for a surprise on his walkabout anyway.

Is there anything to be said for finding a solution to Americans travelling abroad?
26/10/2007, 12:47 PM
Dodge

"He's black, so I'm sure he's not from London. I'm sure that's a coincidental name"

There are two players on the New york giants who were born in London. Both of them black.
26/10/2007, 1:42 PM
paul_oshea

I dont believe two were born, one grew up in ipswich, not london dodge.
26/10/2007, 1:50 PM
strangeirish

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Originally Posted by jebus

Is there anything to be said for finding a solution to Americans travelling abroad?

Yeah, hide your daughters and lock your fridges.:D
26/10/2007, 1:52 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

I dont believe two were born, one grew up in ipswich, not london dodge.

Who said anything about being brought up anywhere?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osi_Umenyiora

As it was I got it wrong, marvin Allen was born in Dorking and plays for the Dolphins...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Allen
26/10/2007, 1:53 PM
pete

Old one but good one...

:D
26/10/2007, 1:58 PM
paul_oshea

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Who said anything about being brought up anywhere?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osi_Umenyiora

As it was I got it wrong, marvin Allen was born in Dorking and plays for the Dolphins...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Allen

Wikipedia, shcmickipedia, might well be right in this case though. When you say born do you mean hospital or what? He was prolly born and spent his first few days, but I am pretty sure its ipswich he is from.
26/10/2007, 1:58 PM
Bluebeard

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

I dont believe two were born, one grew up in ipswich, not london dodge.

What, NEITHER of them have belly buttons?
26/10/2007, 2:02 PM
DIFChick

Not sure how to embedd youtube clips so here's a link to a clip of Miss South Carolina in the Teen USA pageant having a very, very blonde moment...

Sure with looks like that she hardly needs a brain to do well in life. Trophy wife anyone ;)

*relevance to this topic is that the poor girl is trying to explain why a 1/5 Americans cant find their own country on a map.
26/10/2007, 2:06 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Wikipedia, shcmickipedia, might well be right in this case though. When you say born do you mean hospital or what? He was prolly born and spent his first few days, but I am pretty sure its ipswich he is from.

Which one? both were "brought up" in the US
26/10/2007, 2:16 PM
paul_oshea

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Which one? both were "brought up" in the US

Did one of them not spend 7 years in ipswich? If not then the metro is lying to me!!
26/10/2007, 2:44 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Did one of them not spend 7 years in ipswich? If not then the metro is lying to me!!

The Metro ffs?

And possibly...
26/10/2007, 2:49 PM
paul_oshea

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Originally Posted by Dodge

The Metro ffs?

And possibly...

No the crappy Irish version, the well informed, well structured and grammatically superior English Version. :eek: :D
26/10/2007, 2:56 PM
OwlsFan

A reasonable question. Even speak to a genuine London cockney? Certainly doesn't speak English!

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Originally Posted by DIFChick

Not sure how to embedd youtube clips so here's a link to a clip of Miss South Carolina in the Teen USA pageant having a very, very blonde moment...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

Sure with looks like that she hardly needs a brain to do well in life. Trophy wife anyone ;)

*relevance to this topic is that the poor girl is trying to explain why a 1/5 Americans cant find their own country on a map.

Looks as if a voice was dubbed on. Doesn't seem genuine to me.
26/10/2007, 2:58 PM
SaucyJack

Channing Crowder is joking, in case nobody knows.
26/10/2007, 3:01 PM
DIFChick

Oh trust me Owlsfan it is. Think this youtube clip made the rounds over a year ago and she later went on some of the morning shows in the U.S. to explain herself.

Her answer in full to the map question was:
�I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uhmmm, some people out there in our nation don't have maps and uh, I believe that our, I, education like such as, uh, South Africa, and uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uhhh, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, should help South Africa, it should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future, for us.�

ah...what???

Anyway, back on topic.
26/10/2007, 3:07 PM
paul_oshea

It is true, it was all over the globe and herald and stuff out there. Very funny indeed.
29/10/2007, 1:08 AM
dcfcsteve

Americans are woefully educated about anything outside their own God-fearing little piece of earth. It's embarassing how little they know about anything non-American..

I have personally heard Americans claim that the English language is native to their country, and was created/developed there. Even when subtly promopted about the presence of a place called England and a nation called the English. I jest you not.

A lot of American football players would have gone through college as part of their careers, so it's even more shocking that they appear to have learned so loittle (even if a lot of colleges essentially ignore the grades of their better players).

It's shocking that a people so dim and insular can have so much power and influence in thew world. Scary in fact. Time to spike their water-supplies with contraceptives I believe......!
29/10/2007, 7:27 AM
CollegeTillIDie

Most Americans don't know anything about other parts of America if truth be told. They know their own state and that's pretty much it. To answer the Gridiron player's question Do Londoner's speak English? Nah Mate they don't knoworrimean? :D
29/10/2007, 10:17 AM
paul_oshea

We were both wrong Dodge, one grew up in Greenock in Scotland, he wasn't born in London at all. Good aul wikipedia eh? ;)
29/10/2007, 10:38 AM
dcfcsteve

Who won the Canadian Gridball Iron thing anyway...?

The fact that 85,000-odd people turned up for that game shows the power of hype over anything else. How many of them bothered to see the Londan/England Monarchs before the European NFL League went titties-up...? How many of them had even heard of it...?
29/10/2007, 10:48 AM
CollegeTillIDie

dcfcsteve

Do you mean the Grey Cup perchance?
29/10/2007, 10:50 AM
CollegeTillIDie

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

The fact that 85,000-odd people turned up for that game shows the power of hype over anything else. How many of them bothered to see the Londan/England Monarchs before the European NFL League went titties-up...? How many of them had even heard of it...?

The English attitude to Gridiron is a lot like the Irish attitude to League football. Cannot be arsed to attend the Eircom League but stage a Premier League game here and you'd stuff the place. The analogy between NFL and World League of American Football and European American Football Leagues are I think apt.
29/10/2007, 10:57 AM
beautifulrock

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Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

The English attitude to Gridiron is a lot like the Irish attitude to League football. Cannot be arsed to attend the Eircom League but stage a Premier League game here and you'd stuff the place. The analogy between NFL and World League of American Football and European American Football Leagues are I think apt.

or perhaps you could say give the consumer what they want and they will come.
29/10/2007, 10:58 AM
CollegeTillIDie

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Originally Posted by beautifulrock

or perhaps you could say give the consumer what they want and they will come.

Well you're never going to get the English Premier League in Ireland live in person so get real! And the NFL game was a one off and we in Ireland are so good at turning up for one off events!
29/10/2007, 12:00 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

dcfcsteve

Do you mean the Grey Cup perchance?

Wozzat.....?
29/10/2007, 12:06 PM
beautifulrock

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Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

Well you're never going to get the English Premier League in Ireland live in person so get real! And the NFL game was a one off and we in Ireland are so good at turning up for one off events!

i am real, you are a typical moaner, do something about it instead of putting down other ideas
29/10/2007, 1:01 PM
paul_oshea

DCFCSteve,

It was a washout, the funniest part for me was seeing a big fat fcupper running onto the pitch, like all the other "athletes" and coming off again 2 mins later. Anyhow enough on how stupid a game it is, but it was a "washout", in more ways than one, even though the commentators tried to make out how packed it was right the way through, nearly half of the people had left by the last quarter due to the rain ( and from reports from the media in america, lots of yanks that flew over stayed in the pub instead of going! ) etc. It put a dampener on things no end, and don't believe the hype that it was a "huge success" it was nothing near it.
29/10/2007, 1:47 PM
Jerry The Saint

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

It was a washout, the funniest part for me was seeing a big fat fcupper running onto the pitch, like all the other "athletes" and coming off again 2 mins later.

John Terry:confused:

Anyway, as was said earlier in the thread, Crowder was joking in the interview so the whole premise of this discussion is false. Hard to believe, I know, I was always told that Americans don't understand this type of humour (or humor) :eek:

Here's one of my favourite examples of cultural snobbishness - look how Posh Spice tries to claim comedic superiority over Jon Stewart purely on the basis or their respective nationalities :)

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/in...le=spice-girls
29/10/2007, 7:57 PM
CollegeTillIDie

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Originally Posted by beautifulrock

i am real, you are a typical moaner, do something about it instead of putting down other ideas

UEFA and FIFA won't allow that particular idea( English Premier League teams based outside England) so it's dead in the water.
I've been doing my bit as a supporter of our own league for more than 25 years.
As Sunday afternoon at Wembley proved, just because 90,000 people attend something , doesn't actually mean it's any good of a spectacle.

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Wozzat.....?

The Canadian version of the Superbowl you plank:D
29/10/2007, 8:03 PM
alansmithccfc

pukka innit

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