Drogs injury crisis....A myth?

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29/04/2007, 11:37 AM
RedX

Drogs injury crisis....A myth?

Looking at Drogs starting team the other night against our good selves i am wondering is it a myth regarding all there injurys?...most of the players that lined out were first team regalurs but i am reading everywhere from RTE/Drogs website and from there fans on various forums about there 500 injury's..messages like "if you cannot beat us with these injurys you will never beat us"....Friday night Drogs played up to six if not seven of there strongest team as played against Bohs in the opening league game of the season..so that would make them short maybe 3/4 first team regulars...City were missing Healy/Flynn/Farrelly/Sean Kelly...in my calculations that would be the same amount of first team players missing for us.....who asked for this game to be called off by the way.....:confused:
29/04/2007, 11:50 AM
Aaron

Well Drogs cant complain IMO because they have strength in depth. Thats the whole point of good teams and winning teams is to have the depth to deal with injury crises like that at Drogheda. Teams like Cork havnt got the depth that Drogheda, Derry and St. Pat's have. They have a valid reason. For me though if Drogheda fans are saying that then they are undermining the quality they have throughout their team
29/04/2007, 11:54 AM
WindmillWarrior

A myth? I think any squad would struggle with the following players out. Especially when you're struggling to even get a substitutes bench together! Not to mention a goalkeeper playing with a bleedin injury!
And you know Drogs fans had no problem with the game going ahead.

Jason Gavin ; To be assessed 4 weeks post op - in two week's time.

Dan Connor: will be out for at least 2 months.

Andrew Hageman : not available - back strain.

Damian Lynch : may be available for next week's trip to Waterford.

Fabio : may be available for next week's trip to Waterford

James Keddy: having laser therapy, could be availoable in 2 weeks.

Garto: 2-3 weeks away from full fitness.

Aidan O'Keefe : Serious ligament damage, may be out for some time.

Shane Barrett ; waiting for op.

Brian Shelly : out
29/04/2007, 12:39 PM
RedX

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Originally Posted by WindmillWarrior

A myth? I think any squad would struggle with the following players out. Especially when your struggling to even get a substitutes bench together! Not to mention a goalkeeper playing with a bleedin injury!
And you know Drogs fans had no problem with the game going ahead.

Jason Gavin ; To be assessed 4 weeks post op - in two week's time.

Dan Connor: will be out for at least 2 months.

Andrew Hageman : not available - back strain.

Damian Lynch : may be available for next week's trip to Waterford.

Fabio : may be available for next week's trip to Waterford

James Keddy: having laser therapy, could be availoable in 2 weeks.

Garto: 2-3 weeks away from full fitness.

Aidan O'Keefe : Serious ligament damage, may be out for some time.

Shane Barrett ; waiting for op.

Brian Shelly : out

And from Friday night's starting team who would you drop to play any of the above if they were available...or should i say who would Doolin play?...lets just figure this out now before we have to listen to this rather than the game every other week...

Your team Friday night...

Vilmunuen
S Byrne
Gartland
Gray
Webb
Robinson
Keegan
Bradley
Cahill
Grant
Zayed

Looks like plenty first team regulars there to me...even on the bench you had Ristila/Whelan/C Byrne/Matondo
29/04/2007, 12:39 PM
pete

Drogs were able to have experienced players such as Whelan & Ristilia on the bench last friday so how bad can their injury list be?

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Drogheda United - Mikko Vilmunen, Stuart Byrne, Simon Webb, Steven Gray, Graham Gartland, Paul Keegan, Shane Robinson (Gavin Whelan 85), Stephen Bradley, Eamon Zayed, Tony Grant (Sami Ristila 65), Ollie Cahill.

I think Drogs only missing maybe 4 first choice players - O'Brien, Connor, Shelley & maybe Lynch.

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Garto: 2-3 weeks away from full fitness.

"Garto" played on friday.

The FAI are allowing Drogs sign a keeper so less of the moaning about that.

When you have large experienced squad of 25-26 players you can afford a few injuries. Must clubs would see an injury when you have to play U21s in the furst eleven. :rolleyes:
29/04/2007, 1:10 PM
Dyl10

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Originally Posted by pete

Drogs were able to have experienced players such as Whelan & Ristilia on the bench last friday so how bad can their injury list be?

I think Drogs only missing maybe 4 first choice players - O'Brien, Connor, Shelley & maybe Lynch

What about Gavin and Barret?:confused: 5 essential players out is quite a big loss, Its nearly half the team
29/04/2007, 1:20 PM
pete

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Originally Posted by Dyl10

What about Gavin and Barret?:confused: 5 essential players out is quite a big loss, Its nearly half the team

Swop Gavin for Lynch. You can't play them all. If you name your first choice eleven then we would know...

City were missing Kelly, O'Flynn, Healy & Farrelly on friday yet we didn't say we have a crises.
29/04/2007, 1:29 PM
ColinR

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Originally Posted by pete

Swop Gavin for Lynch. You can't play them all. If you name your first choice eleven then we would know...

City were missing Kelly, O'Flynn, Healy & Farrelly on friday yet we didn't say we have a crises.

:rolleyes: two injured players isn't a crises, two in-eligible players who were signed without the club knowing the rules doesn't make it a crises either - an embarressment maybe......
29/04/2007, 1:29 PM
WindmillWarrior

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete

The FAI are allowing Drogs sign a keeper so less of the moaning about that.

Moaning?!! Just stating a fact ffs. We're getting on with it. It seems to be Cork fans who are making more of an issue out of this, not us! Jaysus, sure all you have to do is read the thread on our injuries on your mb. I find its the best place for a Drogs fan to find out the latest news on our team :rolleyes:
29/04/2007, 1:30 PM
Dyl10

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete

Swop Gavin for Lynch. You can't play them all. If you name your first choice eleven then we would know...

City were missing Kelly, O'Flynn, Healy & Farrelly on friday yet we didn't say we have a crises.

Connor(injured)-Gavin(Injured) Gartland(just passed a fitness test) Shelley(injured) Webb-Cahill(most likely barret(injured) would be playing with Cahill's form at the moment) Keegan Byrne Robinson-Zayed O'Brien(injured)

Oh and sure when is O'flynn ever fit for more than a string of games? he hardly counts
29/04/2007, 1:38 PM
pete

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyl10

Connor(injured)-Gavin(Injured) Gartland(just passed a fitness test) Shelley(injured) Webb-Cahill(most likely barret(injured) would be playing with Cahill's form at the moment) Keegan Byrne Robinson-Zayed O'Brien(injured)

Oh and sure when is O'flynn ever fit for more than a string of games? he hardly counts

Cahill has played more or less every game for you so that leaves 4. Gartland doesn't count as players always coming back from injury - sure O'Callaghan only played his 3rd game of the season on friday.
29/04/2007, 1:48 PM
ColinR

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Originally Posted by pete

Cahill has played more or less every game for you so that leaves 4.

barret got injured in the first half of the first game of the season - which explains why cahill has not needed to compete for his place as much. with barrets end of season form from last season he would be in - so that is back up to five ;)
29/04/2007, 2:00 PM
Dyl10

Look Pete you are just knit picking. Above is a list of 9/10 players who would start or be on the bench. There is no way you can't say that that isn't an injury crisis. Your example with Cork pales in insignificants. Cork are missing 2 players who dont really have any effect on the team and JOF who is always injured. Drogheda have had to move their 1st choice CM in to RB and are missing alot of players around the park, plus the Captain and Vice captain.
29/04/2007, 2:13 PM
Brendan

No mention of Richie Baker? I think when and if we ever have a full squad to choose from Baker will play wide right with Robbo in the middle.
29/04/2007, 2:36 PM
BohsPartisan

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Originally Posted by WindmillWarrior

Aidan O'Keefe : Serious ligament damage, may be out for some time.

Your having a laugh there Al. Surely you're not suggesting he's a first choice first eleven player?
29/04/2007, 2:44 PM
RedX

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Originally Posted by WindmillWarrior

Jaysus, sure all you have to do is read the thread on our injuries on your mb. I find its the best place for a Drogs fan to find out the latest news on our team :rolleyes:

You are a hard man WW...i dont see what the problem would be with Cork City or any other clubs discussing your injury crisis(Myth)on our MB...you are one of our rivals and its been repoted all over the papers so its a topic in our eircom league forum...

On your forum Drogs fans started a thread about a Cork City supporters bus going to Linfield Monday...now where is the logic in that....;)
29/04/2007, 2:58 PM
WindmillWarrior

I know, sure we love each other really don't we!

Mark, I know O'Keefe isn't a first teamer! Just listing all the injuries as from the official websh*te.
29/04/2007, 3:40 PM
GavinZac

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Originally Posted by ColinR

:rolleyes: two injured players isn't a crises, two in-eligible players who were signed without the club knowing the rules doesn't make it a crises either - an embarressment maybe......

If you kept up, you'd realise we followed the rules. The player's previous clubs did not. Hence other clubs in the same situation not being affected. :rolleyes:
29/04/2007, 5:06 PM
BohsPartisan

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Originally Posted by robbiesdrogs

*yeah right :eek:

Yeah, break dancing in Fusion? Did you ever see the like. They were doing the robot! :p
29/04/2007, 5:49 PM
pete

Players such as Keddy, O'Keeffe & Baker would never even come off the Drogs bench in a full strength squad.

CCFC will barely be able to fill the bench (will add U21s) for tomorrows Setanta Cup game but you won't hear that mentioned in the media.

IMO Doolin is getting his excuses in advance. Fair enough if you have no fit keeper but he should have more confidence in the 14 first team fit players.
29/04/2007, 7:56 PM
Schumi

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Originally Posted by pete

City were missing Kelly, O'Flynn, Healy & Farrelly on friday yet we didn't say we have a crises.

O'Flynn is injured again?
29/04/2007, 8:03 PM
Celdrog

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Originally Posted by pete

IMO Doolin is getting his excuses in advance. Fair enough if you have no fit keeper but he should have more confidence in the 14 first team fit players.

You are dead right Pete. We are keeping Dan Connor, Brian Shelley, Jason Gavin, Shane Barrett and Richie Baker on a false injury list list to give the league to Pats, never mind Fabio or a half fit Graham Gartland and Eamon Zayed. Their back ups are in Lanzarote appartently.

We are starting to wonder

Free the FIFA 2
29/04/2007, 9:20 PM
RedX

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Originally Posted by Schumi

O'Flynn is injured again?

And your point is?...surely you have one?:confused:
29/04/2007, 9:29 PM
razor

Drogheda have a lot of injuries but because of the vast squad they have they are still able to field a very strong first team.
Doolin was playing the poor mouth but he has a wealth of players to choose from, so the FAI rightly refused the games cancellation.
Drogheda got lucky on the night, a penalty that never was and a mistake but sure these things happen bring on Linfeld & Pats.
29/04/2007, 10:26 PM
Dyl10

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Originally Posted by RedX

And your point is?...surely you have one?:confused:

His point is pretty self explanatory. If you don't get it im not gonna help you:rolleyes:
Maybe your feeling a bit sour about how he is always injured, as I know a few Cork fans are.
29/04/2007, 10:32 PM
RedX

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Originally Posted by Dyl10

His point is pretty self explanatory. If you don't get it im not gonna help you:rolleyes:
Maybe your feeling a bit sour about how he is always injured, as I know a few Cork fans are.

You got me there...:rolleyes:

Anyway back on topic.....
29/04/2007, 10:34 PM
RedX

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Originally Posted by robbiesdrogs

you seem to be talking us up a lot pete.are you trying to justify only getting a point or something??

Are you saying that you did not think your team which consisted of MOSTLY first team players were not good enough to beat Cork City at home Friday night?...
30/04/2007, 8:55 AM
Drogman.

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Originally Posted by razor

Drogheda got lucky on the night, a penalty that never was and a mistake but sure these things happen bring on Linfeld & Pats.

Fair enough we got a little bit of luck, but the only chances Cork had were O'Donovans goal and then the penalty.

You's had most of the possession on Friday night but created nothing with it. Behan is brutal and Cork will not get any further in the league unless they get a better striker to support O'Donovan.

Rico was again his usual self, attacking the referee at half time. :rolleyes:
30/04/2007, 11:25 AM
ndrog

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedX

Are you saying that you did not think your team which consisted of MOSTLY first team players were not good enough to beat Cork City at home Friday night?...

I think you are right .Cork were the better team on fri night .With players playing with injury and out of position you got the better of us .How frustrating it must have been as a cork fan to see you still couldnt beat us with all the possesion you had .You had one proper shot on goal and scored .The game was never gonna be cancelled and i am happy with that .The game going to extra time in inchicore really showed on the players the other night tbh .We are on a good run so long may it continue .BRING ON THE LINFILED !!!!!
30/04/2007, 2:35 PM
RedX

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Originally Posted by ndrog

I think you are right .Cork were the better team on fri night .With players playing with injury and out of position you got the better of us .How frustrating it must have been as a cork fan to see you still couldnt beat us with all the possesion you had .You had one proper shot on goal and scored .The game was never gonna be cancelled and i am happy with that .The game going to extra time in inchicore really showed on the players the other night tbh .We are on a good run so long may it continue .BRING ON THE LINFILED !!!!!

Its nice to have a bit of communication with Drogs fans at last...i have been working hard on it...:D

I listened to the game Friday night on Radio One and according to Eoin Hand he said at times you could not see City scoring...plenty of possesion but never really threatening the last third of the pitch...City have been like this lately though and it comes back to where Healy and Farrelly are being missed greatly for us...Gamble is not really a creative player and Softic is only getting into his stride but hopefully this will improve...yes Drogs are on a good run but we are doing ok ourselves..i am fairly confident if we can stay in touch until July when the two lads are available then we will challenge....and as you say...BRING ON LINFIELD(but i am sure we mean different things):D
30/04/2007, 4:55 PM
RedX

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Originally Posted by robbiesdrogs

red x this is the basis of what i was thinking,ive had a long day in work so im not typing it out when i can just rip off ndrog,cheers mate.:D

i went to united park friday thinking a draw wouldnt be so bad with the fact we couldnt really rotate players after monday with the injuries and all.lets face it if we had no injuries at all miko,greyzer,tony grant wouldnt start,stewie would be centre mid and more than likely sami and gavin whelan wouldnt even be on the bench,while cian byrne would be at home studying for his exams.

sure we might look like weve a strong team but its only because weve players that would walk on to other teams fighting for a place in ours

I understand what you are saying but might i be right in saying that clubs like Drogs with big and very strong squads could consider up to twenty different players as first team players on certain days...therefore injurys would not effect Drogs as much as other clubs....i mean if Fabio and Glen Fitz were available Zayed might not be dropped for either...
30/04/2007, 5:13 PM
ndrog

Fabio would walk onto the team regardless of who else is fit tbh ,FABIO = LEGEND :D
30/04/2007, 5:22 PM
RedX

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Originally Posted by robbiesdrogs

fair point but you also have to say that we have some players who are back up for definite and they are playing at the moment,heres what id consider my best 11

dan

shelly gavin garto webby

robbo stewie keegan barrett

fabio zayed

bench;miko,gray,baker,fitzy,bradley

With a bit of luck for both ourselves and your injured players that could be close to the side we play in the Setanta cup final...:D ..

But yes i do understand where you are coming from with that...cant argue with it...
01/05/2007, 10:15 AM
Snoop Drog

Robbie. RedX. get a room :p

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