In case anyone is interested city currently 1 up against swifts. Goal by John O' Flynn. Down to 10 men with Roy o donovan sent off.
Updates on the other games would be welcome :)
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In case anyone is interested city currently 1 up against swifts. Goal by John O' Flynn. Down to 10 men with Roy o donovan sent off.
Updates on the other games would be welcome :)
2-0 within minutes of kick off. Free from George O' Callaghan
It's 0 0 according to Aertel and it kicked off at 7.45.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
Portadown 0 Drogheda 0 is a full time. Good result for Cork City if it stays 2-0in Turners Cross.
Aertel says Ports v Drogs has finish 0-0. Ports keep up their decent results against eL opposition.
Full time Cork City 2 Dungannon 0. Table is City 7pts, Drogs 4, Portadown 3, Dungannon 1
Cork look odds on for a semi final place. I have to say Dungannon were disappointing tonight, not that I thought they would win the match, but with Cork down to 10 men from 20 minutes in and after the start Swifts had, I thought then that they could well get something from the game.
Perversely the sending off of RO'D seemed to galvanise City and they scored two good goals.
On the sending off issue, I think the referee got it spot on. The first thing he did was to award a free kick to Cork and then he booked the Swifts player. Although the challenge was robust i would have thought he would be unlucky to get a red card for it. RO'D's reaction deserved the straight red card. This is a worrying tredn though if I were a City supporter. I remember O'D getting sent off last season for another act of petulance and he could have walked in at least another match for something similar.
In a way, he reminds me slightly of JPK from Bohs who also has bags of talent, but can loose the rag a bit quickly. Maybe it's just immaturity, but he'd want to grow up fairly quickly if he gets wound up as easily as that.
The guy who flew in got booked and the secong one came in and kicked him in the ribs. Thats the guy he went for and got sent off but the instigator didn't get a card. Strange. It just seems a tendendcy for the Northern teams to come and try to kick lumps out of us from the games I've seen. Portadown last year was a disgrace.
Just back from Shamrock Park and the refereeing there was terrible as well. A clear hand ball by a Ports defender as the ball was heading for goal and no penalty. Jason Gavin played the ball back to Connor with his thigh and the referee awarded a free inside the box - absolutely no back pass. Beginning to think even the IFA refs ae worse than ours.
He matured a lot over the past year but still has a way to go yet. Its the first time he's lost his temper in a while so he is working on it. Hopefully hel get that aspect of his game sorted out soon and fulfil his potential to become a great playerQuote:
Originally Posted by CharlesThompson
Yes, he did:ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesThompson
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Originally Posted by CuanaD
Where was the card for the kick in the ribs though?
I was there too. Thought Drogheda absolutely blew it last night. Dominated possession and should have won. Superb save by Dan Connor and a late chance wa sall Ports had to show for a poor display. Drogheda's passing was excellent but no end product must be a concern.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
I thought the ref did OK. Looked like Gavin kneed it back to the keeper which I think is not allowed. I didn't see the handball either.
Great noise from the Drogheda fans as they sang all night and not a peep out of the home support. I thoguht it was a very poor turnout though - only about 50 there.
can anyone post a link here to where I can find the tables, results and fixtures for the setanta cup?
Yeah we blew it. Still though we are second with 2 home games against Ports and Cork to come so I think we should make second place anyway.
We played well last night bar finishing. Barrett in his second full game had a blinder. If he keeps that up then he'll be a major player. Leech missed 2 great chances after coming on.
Ports were brutal and were no way in deserving of a draw. One chance they created which came from a lapse in our defence.
Saw the goals from langerland last night, and have to say it was a great strike by Georgie. He hit it sweetly.
It is allowed AFAIKQuote:
Originally Posted by gspain
another two poor results for IL sides last night. would take some very good results from the ports to make it through. Linfield really need to win to boost their chances and fly the flag for IL or else it will be a whitewash.
:D :D sounds familiar:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesThompson
If City win in Dungannon a win for Drogs will ease make City 1st team in the semi final.
We were trying to think what Premier eL side Dungannon would be like & certainly they would struggle to not get relegated although their league record looks much better than away.
Dungannon had one or two good players, (e.g. McCabe) but Cork played them off the pitch all too easily.
This game showed the fundamental flaw in the Setanta setup. Four from north and four from south (including, er, one from north) is a nice touchy-feely equation for the peace process in Irish football, but in competitive terms it is just silly.
what better solution do you have. two from each,1 from each or back to the original three. If you start the idea that the EL deserve more teams than the IL I could see this competition cease quite quickly.
I have to agree with Dassa here, you can't put in 6 EL and 2 IL or 5 & 3 just not gonna work, I think this format is the best , if you want to make it slightly more competitive maybe the groups for next season should be decided now, like
Group 1:
1st IL
2nd EL
3rd IL
4th EL
And Group 2:
1st EL
2nd IL
3rd EL
4th IL
that way its mean's the best 4 sides stand a chance of getting to the semi's
Cause in fairness does anybody really think Drogheda,Ports or swifts are better teams than Shels, Derry and Linfield, cause one of them WILL be in the semi's ahead of one of the teams mentioned above, having played in an easier group, By all means if they get there by playin in a group as i stated above then yes they deserve to be there.
look at group one it has 1 team who finished in the top 2 of there league
Group 2 has 3 teams who finished in the top 2 of there league,
Me personaly i see a final with either cork -v- a group 2 team or else two group 2 teams in the final,
i don't think anyone other than Cork has a chance.
End of rant
That Breen Lad talks sense.
Very uneven groups alright. I can understand that the weaker teams might be opposed to the idea, but that hasn't stopped seeding in virtually all the other fifa & uefa competitions.
It depends on your philosophy. Seeding kills a lot of the romance of competitions. Over on the IL forum there's moaning about a possible fixed draw to keep NI's two best teams apart. Seeding is a fixed draw in a sense. Personally I am not fond of it.
me either all the fun of the european cup has gone with seeding. good for big clubs bad for small clubs.
I have to hold up my hands and admit I'm worse than useless at designing/discussing schemes like this. My brain just refuses to do it, mostly, I think, out of boredom. So I'm filled with admiration for those who can persist with it.
If seeding isn't wanted, how about an extra prelim round, with a wider intake (say to sixth in the EL ;) )to knock out the pub teams? If another Dungannon Swifts makes it through, well and good. As it is, I think a LSL team would have beaten them.
I'm not really interested in whether teams from 'the south' or 'the north' do better, and I don't think the tournament is marketed in this way. While there are certainly good NI teams, it looks to me like the depth isn't there.
Jayz, good scheme design there Boh Diddley.
That would be a fair way of shedding the crap teams on merit either way.
I reckon they should keep it as 8 teams though next year so maybe 6 automatic straight through(3 from each association of course). Then an extra 2 from each association play cross-border rivals to determine the final two places.
Well done.
Why, thank you! :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Risteard
Have to agree this lad talks sense. Excellent proposal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Breen
Problem with that is when do you have the preliminary round? If it's before the main phase (as it'd have to be), you're asking one or two eL clubs to start pre-season training to possibly play just the one match, get knocked out and then go back into off-season before re-starting pre-season training...Quote:
Originally Posted by BohDiddley
The match last night was the strongest team from (what most people agree is) the stronger league (who'd played in the tournament last year) at home against the weakest team from the weaker league (who hadn't played last year). It only ended 2-0. The match most likely to end in a hammering shouldn't affect the rest of the tournament.
Personally speaking, as there are only 8 teams in the tournament I don't think that it needs to be tampered with. The chances of more than one or two teams being considerably below the quality of the rest is minimal. Also I think that as we (Ireland) have lost realistic opportunity of playing against big European clubs in either the CL or Uefa Cup, we should really learn from that.
To my mind the fact that one group has predominantly unfancied teams against another group which has predominantly fancied teams will mean nothing by the time the semi finals come around.
If it turns out that the teams from one jurisdiction end up not being part of the knockout, then that's hardly the fault of anything else except that they're just not good enough.
Not only this, but I also like the idea of an open draw. Adds to the excitement in the build up.