http://www.bohemians.ie/news.htm#Rov...From_Dalymount
northside hoop put this up in another thread. think it deserves more attention than being buried on the fifth page of another thread. gypos fc are a disgrace
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http://www.bohemians.ie/news.htm#Rov...From_Dalymount
northside hoop put this up in another thread. think it deserves more attention than being buried on the fifth page of another thread. gypos fc are a disgrace
ironic isn't it that the "Bohs4Kids" logo is supended above that article/ picture :rolleyes:
Anto Eile, if you have the name and conviction details of the person who owns the flag, or any other reason why the club should not be "defending" its fans, I'd be interested. Otherwise, the club is defending the property of its fans. Pure and simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by anto eile
Rovers fans stole a flag belonging to Bohs fans. It's not the first time either, Rovers fans have previous; they thought nothing of burning a Bohs Starry Plough, and also thought nothing of stealing a Bohs flag that was a memorial to a dead Bohs fan.
Claiming that the flag was "found at Doyle's corner" would make anyone fall off their chair laughing.
Will Rovers be defending their fans for this?
http://www.hooligandvds.net/product_...2772648ca3ab96
Forgive me if I'm taking this up wrong but why are they a disgrace? One of their flags was stolen from their own ground and they want it back? Why is that a disgrace? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by anto eile
Kinda weird a football club posted that in its main page, may slightly incite their fans somewhat?
When is next game between the 2 august 5th or somfin?
Very petty thing to do, if something is stolen dont you call the police and let them deal with it, as those rovers fans could now sue Bohs club(if they the owners and operators of the site ) for libel.
Only in the EL :rolleyes:
kdjac
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Originally Posted by northside hoop
Odd feeling i agree with a Rovers fan......
kdjac
On what grounds? I agree the club's website is the wrong place for something like this, but the fans appear to have admitted as much on the internet anyway (the article mentions it was originally posted elsewhere). Hard to libel someone for something they admit doing?Quote:
Originally Posted by kdjaC
(Picture seems to be down now, incidentally).
Why would anyone want a video of Rovers fans acting the scumbag? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hayser(the 2nd)
Which insofar as it is a flag owned by a Bohs fan, is true. Any additional context is irrelevant. Unless of course you are desperately trying to crank the SRFC propaganda machine into life, in which case the writing on the flag becomes very important. This fan has had his property stolen by Rovers fans, and the club is stating this fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by northside hoop
is it not that the picture with the rovers fans who stole the flag is down???Quote:
Originally Posted by northside hoop
Not really exercised about a BSC flag -- they can keep it for all I care. In my view those lads have done the majority of Bohs fans a favour, because, believe it or not, most Bohs fans are not hoolies and have no interest in such silly pursuits.Quote:
Originally Posted by kdjaC
I wouldn't have posted that notice on the official site. (If it were a proper Bohs flag, in colours and/or with crest, it certainly would be justified.) But I might have a friendly word with a garda about it: maybe one of those who protected innocent Bohs fans from the Forces of Mordor last time out ;)
But didn't these orcs admit the theft online, when they also posted pictures of themselves with their, ahem, find? Even if they did find it, in law it is theft to keep property that comes into your possession that way.
Libel in a legal sense not right or wrong , its illegal to point at someone and say they stole/commited a crime , its classed as libel if that person did or did not steal its irrelevant you cannot post in a newspaper online or in any media that someone stole or commited a crime.
I know one of the guys in that pic complete and utter muppet (notice i didnt name him , cant sue me nah nah nah)
kdjac
A lot of people know a lot of the faces in the photo, big deal, let's get real, no-one is going to involve the Gardaí in this.
'This fan has had his property stolen by Rovers fans, and the club is stating this fact.'
Cop yourself one will ye - it was a flag that said 'Bohs Soccer Casuals' on it, it wasn't any ordinary bohs flag :rolleyes: .
There is a big difference between that flag and an ordinary bohs flag. If it had've been any other bohs flag that was robbed i would have said that it was an absolute disgrace, rovers were bold boys, etc - but seen as it was a flag that said 'Bohs Soccer Casuals' on it, I have no sympathy whatsoever over it and I'm surprised that Bohs FC would put it on their offical site to be associated with a flag that said 'Bohs Soccer Casuals' - I actually thought you'd like to distance yourself from it :confused:
That picture though is still hilarious :D
I'm didn't come on here to find out how much sympathy you have for the owner of the flag; I don't care about your sympathy levels, and it's not the discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmo
The fact is that no-one here knows who owns the flag, and what, if anything, they've ever been guilty of. Incidentally, to answer Macy's [repeated] point, Bohs as a club have in the past identified and banned fans [for finite time periods, if people disagree with this that is obviously another discussion, but the fact remains that Bohs do take action] for causing trouble in the past, and at least two Bohs fans tyhat I know of are currently banned indefinitely from the club on match nights or any other nights.
As an aside, and by way of my demonstrating a bit of consistency on the topic, plenty of Rovers fans have scarves with "SRFC Hooligans On Tour" on them, together with some kind of stupid looking SI-type compass, not in itself something that should cause any seasoned football fan to foam at the mouth with wounded sensibilities, if one were stolen it would still be property of a Rovers fan, and stealing anything from another fan IMO is not on.
What was the first?Quote:
Originally Posted by northside hoop
You might know better than me, but AFAIK the incident is in the public domain due to Rovers fans texting the link to the picture to Bohs fans, and Bohs fans putting the picture on the message board. So to recap, the facts are Rovers fans rob a flag belonging to a Bohs fan and put pictures of it on the net. As a news story in the interests of Bohs fans who want Rovers out of Dalymount (I won't deny there's an agenda, but I'd also suggest that the lads who took the flag might be working to the same agenda; ie get Rovers out of Dalymount, we know how much you all hate playing there), I think it's newsworthy.
The idea of us having a propaganda machine would be funny were it not for the facts of the matter being that we have a "PR Officer" and not a lot of people know what he looks like.
Jaime - Get over yourself, all you're doing is entertaining the rest of us. You don't know how the flag came to be in the hands of Rovers fans, all your talk about theft is just that - talk.
I happen to know what happened and when but I won't be losing any sleep over it. I was involved in getting the Diarmuid O'Leary flag returned and if this flag was of a similar ilk I'd do the same.
It's not - it's a BSC flag and as such will be treated as a Bohs hoolies flag. What else do you expect? And incidentally, your club's implicit backing of the BSC is staggering hypocrisy. We'll be treating all Bohs bleatings about 'Rovers hooligans' with contempt from now on. Oh, I forgot, we always did. ;)
KOH
PS Hayser - Can I get a look at the DVD when Jaime's finished with it?
Well, let the Rovers fan sue for libel. He then has to prove that he didn't steal the flag. Kind of hard if he's boasting about it on the internet!Quote:
Originally Posted by kdjaC
Nonsense. You can't make things up, but then the site's not exactly making things up, is it? Bohs have no libel case to answer to at all here - to say otherwise is just scaremongering.Quote:
Originally Posted by kdjaC
how can anyone from either club claim a moral high ground - one set of hooligans robbed a flag belonging to another set of hooligans.... :rolleyes:
anyone got the picture? its quite funny! like when Homer stole Sir Oinksalot the rival Colleges mascot when he was in college!
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Originally Posted by Jaime
Jamie, you and me both know that flag was returned unharmed to BFC.
BTW, I find the seven page thread on gypoweb about this quite funny (funny because, as usual, threads on gypoweb start about one thing and end up in a bitter in-fight over who makes the nicest homemade cookies). Someone posted up the picture and, within the space of two or three posts, it had become an accepted fact that Rovers fans had broken into a locked room in Dalymount and stolen the flag (incidentally, does that mean that the Boy Scout Club are allowed keep their official merchandise in the Bohs office in Dalymount?). Best moment of the thread, however, came from the poster who claimed that there were several 400 Club members in the picture. Their faces are blacked out for ****s sake, how does he know?!
'The fact is that no-one here knows who owns the flag, and what, if anything, they've ever been guilty of'
Come off it, will ye. I dont know or care what whoever owns the flag did or didnt do. My problem is that it is a flag saying 'Bohs Soccer Casuals' (you know the casuals jamie, no? Maybe theyre a figment of my imagination. The casuals went into the drogheda end last season where there a load of young teenagers to start a row, they also gave a 14 year old drog a broken jaw or cheekbone this season, the bohs lad was in his late 20's) and that your club is being associated with the 'Bohs Soccer Casuals' by putting that on their website imo.
I too,like Pablo,find this whole episode very funny,it's harmless fun by a bunch of so called hooligans against another bunch of so called hooligans.It reminds me of an incident in the 70's when Ireland were playing Denmark at Lansdowne Rd,there was 1 Rovers face there,thought he was the biggest gangster in Dublin at the time,anyway somebody left a message for him(read out on tannoy system) that his grandma was outside the ground and would he come to collect her :D ,harmless fun,even he saw the funny side to it :D
In fairness though, how many other clubs would post such drival on there OFFICAL web site ? none. This was'nt about just a stolen flag, this is a childish dig at RoversQuote:
Originally Posted by Jaime
I've never assumed that there was any kind of criminal damage done to get the flag, I'd believe that the story about the keg room is probably true, as that flag isn't usually kept with the rest of the flags, so talk of Bohs "allowing the BSC to store their materials in Dalymount" or some such tripe, is stupid to anyone who knows the facts of flag storage at Dalymount, something few people here know.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
In fairness, I could have pointed out that the Bohs/Celtic flag was returned unharmed; I know when and by who it was returned, so I'll ackowledge the fact; but it obvoiusly didn't suit the tilt of my post, and the point about the burning of the Starry Plough flag still stands undisputed.
Obviously most of you will agree that it's gone well beyond the stage of either club's fans giving a **** about the other club's "bleatings" (and this isn't a dig, but we don't even know who "your club" really is at the moment) by now, but as NH has acknowledged, my main point is that robbing stuff isn't on. I don't think anyone wants to read pages and pages of opening up old wounds and having old-style Bohs-Rovers banter, like we used to do before the SFRC Aimoo Stasi clamped down. Anyway, the old-style banter often ended with your name being put about, and me being threatened, so it's probably better to leave Bohs-Rovers hatred to the moral brigade who do it best, and gang up on Shels. :(
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dublin12
BTW, are you really Leeds?
Christ Jaime, I almost completely agree with that post. :eek: You're spot on about the relationship between both clubs. IMO it's at its lowest ebb ever (the fact that we don't really "exist" at the moment doesn't help) Neither set of fans believes the other and trust is non-existent. Again, our tenancy doesn't help matters either.
BTW You're still way out about where the flag came from. Which from our point of view makes it even funnier. But I take the rest of your points. However the whole palaver proves that Rovers/Bohs is miles out on its own when it comes to Irish sporting rivalries. Shels? Who the fook are they?
KOH
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
or that you simply have a lot of scummers attached to both clubs
So hooliganism constitutes a rivalry??? Good man! How did the Rovers hoolies get the boez hoolies flag then???Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
Jamie, stop being the voice of reason, you big girl's blouse ;)
What kind of hooligan uses the term "palaver" to describe internet abuse? Besides, the last time WAR got in a mill was in the '20s when the Jacobs crew tried to take the Shed ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumcondra Red
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Passive
So nobody will say how the flag was obtained then??? Even though some people are claiming to know the full story???
Well, my understanding - and I'm open to correction here - is that the two crews met up for a brandy in the gentleman's club to exchange business contacts, but the brandy went to the Boh's lads heads and they left their flag behind. As far as I know, the lads posing in the picture aren't Rovers fans, they are actually the staff of Patrick Guilbauds showing the flag on an internet lost and found site in the hope that the rightful owners will reclaim their property.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumcondra Red
But I am open to correction.
In fairness, it's hardly Panorama stuff, I can name plenty of them. :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by Passive
How remiss of me. Hang on while I post it on the internet for the whole world to read. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumcondra Red
KOH
If you're big enough to gloat, you're big enough to tell the story!
What? You've never heard the term smart casual? I believe Alan Partridge came up with it to describe Norwich City's oh so clever mob of book-reading, wine-tasting, Delia-loving casuals. I could be wrong though. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Passive
KOH
Smart casual is the way forward, they love Oslos and Micropacers in Patrick Gilbaud's, although they won't allow Trimm Trabs. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
their f*cking trademark :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmo
i must say lads, you are all taking this way to seriously. it was a class joke and the BSC are on the end of it!
i say go and rob one of their flags in return or come up with something original.
it beats kicking the daylights out of each other like you normally do!