Evening Herald article on Bohs-Rovers
IRISH SOCCER HOOLIGANS PLAN RIOTS ON THE NET
Irish soccer hooligans are using the net to organise pre-match violence and forge links with European neo-nazi groups
Am Evening Herald investigation folowing recent shocking scenes involving shamrock rovers fans, has found the problem of of football holiganism is spiralling out of control.
Last weekend Rovers fans clashed with Bohemians supporters in broad daylight ina pre-arranged mellee outside Dalymount Park in Dublin
A group of around 80 supporters from Bohs and Shamrock Rovers were involved in Fridays riot at Doyles corner before their teams eircom league fixture
Bottels, coins and rockswere thrown during the incident which lasted 10 minutes
Gardai eventually seperated both parties but a number of innocent families and children were caught up in the ugly scenes
During the match members of the notorious Shamrock Rovers Ultras a hooligan wing linked to the club , produced a pig's head and pig's feet and threw them onto the pitch, in scenes that shocked football observers
the evening herald has learned that the ugly pre-match riot was a planned event with holligan elements from both clubs using the internet to arrange a time and venue for the arranged fight
so called Bohemians "casuals" were based ina phibsboro pub while Rovers "ultras" drank ina pub close to the city centre.
sources have confirmed to the EH thatat around 7pm leaders from both groups made contact using mobile fones to confirm that violence would take place. as shamrock rovers fans made tehir way to Dalymount bohemians "potters" watched them and phoned ahead to warn the casuals of their approach.
gardai appeared unprepared for the street violence with most of the 50 uniformed officers on duty, aswell as a team of riot police, based inside teh stadium. As punches and missiles were exchanged between rival fans 4 helpless gardai looked on phoned for back-up.
police reinforcements eventually seperated the young thugs but a number of frightened children were caught up in the violence.
pre-planned violence is now common place in the eircom leage. there is a hardcore hooligan element attached toa number of mainly dublin teams , whose sole aim is to cause viuolence.
last september shamrock rovers were evicted from richmond parkfollowing violent scens before and after amatch with bohemians.
mindless thugs associated with the shamrock rovers ultras have been bragging about fridays violence outside dalymount on a website dedicated to the group
the homepage of the site declares "just f**k them all. Everyone is the enemy, we are on our own lads"
One ultra declares, "we weren't hiding, we stood and didnt run, youse were let down big toime when onlya quarter of the lads you had went for it big time. Fair play to the rovers lads. i enjoyed it".
Another thug taunts bohemians fans saying "bottom line is bohs got slapped on their own patch, we backed off even before teh cops got it sorted. hope there's no CCTV on that corner" while another jeeringly claims"you were all rolled over on your own patch you s****bags"
tovers ultras have forged links with right wing neo-nazis from other europena countries including Greece, Sweden and Germany.
Links to other hooligan websites dedicated to violence show football supporters rioting all over europe.
the ultras call these groups"green and white brothers" nd they include europs most fanatical and dangerous hooligans
in a sinister development hooligans have downloaded pictures of gardai and stewards who were on duty at dalymount asking if anyoneknows who they are. identification numbers of some gardaiand stewards are published on the website, alongside the photo of a garda filming supporters is the caption "you've been framed Pig"
one source close to the ultras told the evening herald "these lds model themselves on English hooligans in the 1980s"
a spokesman for the FAI said that the association was "awaiting a number of reports on teh game" before deciding what action, if any, it will take.
these scenes were localised incidents and are not common in the league. We do not condon any public disorder activity and it has no place in the game, he said
the association stressed that it was not responsible for what fans do poutside football stadiums, saying it was amatter for the gardai. if the clubs are found to have not controlled their fans they could be forced to adopt earlier kick off times or have to play their fixtures behind closed dorrs.
gardai have confirmed that they are aware of Fridays incident "we are also concerned about pictures of members of the force appearing on these websites which is illegal"
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Lads, while the article is way over the top ..... you all forget ...... this is what the media do. They do it with every story .... sometimes it is in your favour but we can all say that media add arms and legs, they glorify and vilify, and some stories are just plain made up, pulled out of the sky pieces of crap. There are no suprises there.
Rovers and Bohs have elements .... they'd have youy believe they eat their first born and dance with the devil in the pale moon light but that is not true either .... each club has about 50 or so idiots with huge Peter Pan/Walter Mitty type egos who think they are in a film or something, fierce notions about themselves altogether.
They have been like this for ages ..... everyone has complained about it for ages ...... Both clubs gave excuses for ages ...... Both clubs have done what appears to Joe public, diddley squat to resolve the problem, for ages .... The league know all about this for ages ....
It is going on for what seems like an age !!
It has caught up with them and this is directly related to the inaction of the clubs and the league
The bigger issue here is .....
While Bohs and Rovers have the problem .... and have been prepared financially and otherwise for it. All the other clubs in the league have to take it on the chin. Like it or not every club with be effected by this bad press and will have to suffer the consequences of it. Rovers and Bohs wont fork out or resolve the problem.
It is up to the other clubs and the league to lobby the clubs to resolve it once and for all.
And fans every where need to ignore the Bohs/Rovers fans that say ... "this is over reaction", "It'll all blow over like many times before", "Slow news day is all", "Typical fans of other clubs, think the league could ever be progressive and improve", "Dont they know they need us both to drag us down into the mire for the thousand time again", and other statements like that.
It is because of inaction that this will drag on and on and on and on and on .....
It will drag on as long as no one has to take responsibility for it.
It will drag on for as long as all clubs tolerate it and watch the work that has been done by other clubs go down the drain.
The thing that gets me is the people that allow it/ support it/part take in it/ turn a blind eye to it are the very ones that tell us all to be quite and how dare we question it or make an issue of it.
Where do they get off ....... or more to the point ...... where do they actually think they are, and do they think that the league can support this/allow this to happen all the time and just lay down and say nothing.
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Originally Posted by Bosco
Did anyone read this on their homepage.It has absolutely nothing to do with the bohs-rovers game.Its about the season as a whole and how everything is going against them.The hearld totally twisted their words
Thats what they do ....... Rovers have left themselves wide open for it and the expect it so less about them. Are they going to pick up the pieces for the damage this does to our league.
Are they continue their "lift up the carpet quick lads, we need to bury our heads in all the crap that is there already" policy
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Originally Posted by Eric
Sounds like Macy got himself a parking ticket once and has it in for the Gardai since :rolleyes:
Or maybe he actually thinks that it is OK to go and cause a public nuisance, and have someone else deal with the problem. It is anti-social behaviour .... that generally means that the general public DONT want it happening. It is irresponsible and it is a big social issue ..... to condone/justify/turn a blind eye on it is just as bad as it enables the problem to continue.
It is very easy to make light of it lads ..... but the fact is, the league has enough problems without this one on top of it. It is doing untold damage to the league and wont be resolved easily. People will stay away for the next ten years and the stigma will be harder to remove .... and just because of a few fools who think this is all cool and great to be involved in.
They are destoring our league and guys like Macy think is is OK !! :eek: :mad: ..... Cop yourself on, i'd expect more from ya.
