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I think that’s the kind of shooting up we could all get behind:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
What’s the story with Axel I wonder ? Out of the team the last couple of games when I thought he’d been really terrific since Kenny came in. I think I read somewhere that he’s off, which would be a pity in my view.
He took a knock away to Bohs and came off at half time, McLaughlin did well in his absence to be fair and seemed to keep his place for that reason for the following couple of gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
I remember discussing that one on here last year Waterford on their announcement stated they paid a transfer fee for McCormack when he was actually out of contract at Pats so it actually would have been an Under 23 development fee which was almost certainly small like 10k, no LOI club is going to be paying any substantial fee for a player and then signing them up to a standard one year contractQuote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
Waterford's latest announcement on their squad is probably the most detailed update I have seen from a LOI club, probably too detailed a bit odd announcing which players you have offered contract extensions to who are sitting on the offer
I think those sort of end-of-season announcements are increasingly common with English clubs, so probably the Fleetwood connection is behind that Waterford post too.
Andy Boyle has confirms he will be leaving Dundalk
Just been announced by WaterfordQuote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
Additionally Waterford's "offered contracts" section on their retained list seemed to put the pressure on Darragh Leahy and Ben McCormack to sign them as they've also been announced. Some solid stuff from them albeit nothing too major in terms of potentially launching them up the table as a result.
Will be interesting to see what happens with Darragh Power. Could be wrong but he seemed to have a great season, certainly a strong start anyway, and there could be a few sides around the league with a spot to fill at right back.
Not sure about that signing. Didn't seem up to his best last year with a bad Dundalk team. I believe he was also captain and I always felt the side lacked a bit of leadership. At least from the bits and pieces I saw of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
Yeah I agree, in recent years he’s looked a shadow of the player he once was. He’s had some proper stinking performances when I’ve watched him. Still a lot of experience there and maybe the change of scenery could see some better performances. At 34 in March though his best days are certainly behind himQuote:
Originally Posted by Another Bohemia
Absolutely, I've seen worse players improve with a change of scenery. There's also the general nonsense that surrounded Dundalk last year that may have impacted on field performances as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
Boyle was immense last year for Dundalk. Anybody that watched Dundalk would say the same. Out of all the 'senior' players, he was by far the most constantly good.
I have no idea what Another Bohemia is talking about.
Dundalk players worked their socks off till the last game, hence the crowd stayed behind them. Problem was goals and a dodgy goalkeeper(s). Leadership on the pitch was far from the issue.
Just remember, Dundalk broke their consecutive home clean sheet record this year, and Boyle was a huge part of that.
Great signing for Waterford. Shels, Derry and Bohs (and actually every team in the league) should be kicking themselves frankly.
Wouldn't be surprised if he had another top top season or two in him.
Very surprised that Conor Parsons has left Waterford. Wonder has someone come in for him already?Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
You may have broken your home clean sheet record but you still conceded 50 goals in the season. What does that say about the games that you did concede in? Scoring goals was certainly an issue but your defence was worse than Bohs and we had a terrible defence for a lot of last year. Him being the best senior player in a team of underperforming players, in the worst team in the league isn't much of a compliment either? And if there is a team of underperforming players it's on the management but also the on the pitch leadership which Boyle was part of. He could well turn it around but I won't lose any sleep that he hasn't signed for Bohs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
Bohs confirm the signing of Colm Whelan
Happy with that. Will defo need to invest in a back up with his injury record, but a very good signing to make. I'd also like to see how Ryan Kelleher would do in the premier division. Scored a decent number of goals (including against Bohs) in a relatively weak Kerry team. Could be a reasonably priced back up option .Quote:
Originally Posted by RealJohn91
I'm not too sure, only played 10 games and only 1 goal in a league with 36 games and a cup run to the final.???? Hopefully I'll be proved wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Another Bohemia
He was injured/being eased back in after 2 ACL injuries, I wouldn’t hold his goal record against him, specially considering only 2 of those appearances were starts. If he’s shook all the bad luck with injuries he should do well at Bohs. I said it on here at the time a few weeks ago but he was easily Derry’s best player in Inchicore in the second last game of the season after coming on at half timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Shinkicker
Only came back from injury in July and had limited minutes(300ish minutes or slightly more than 3 full games) to get him back to fitness when he did come back. Hence my belief we still need another striker as a back up. Injury history is concerning but he had a very good goal record at UCD before he moved to DerryQuote:
Originally Posted by Shinkicker
As I said above, I hope I'm proved wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Another Bohemia
That would be my view too. He'd a horrid time at the Brandywell, but I'm fed up with injury prone players at this stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Another Bohemia
He did look good at times when he got minutes, but they were few and far between. There's obviously a reason for that.
Didn't he say he's not willing to or at least doesn't want to, play on an artificial pitch? I imagine that would have limited his opportunities too. Even if he didn't refuse to play outright he's clearly not going to be at his best when he does play on it.
I assume he meant he didn’t want to play for a club that plays home games on an artificial pitch, meaning he wouldn’t be limiting any premier division opportunities as he leaves Derry. I’d say he’ll probably play the 2 games away to Derry for bohsQuote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
Sorry yes, reading that back I wasn't very clear. I was assuming he told Derry he was reluctant to play on their pitch so Higgins may not have wanted to use him even if he was fit.
That's a brilliant signing by Bohs with Colm Whelan. I watched every game that fella played for UCD and can say he's easily the best finisher I've seen in the last 15 years at The Bowl. Awful luck with 2 x ACL, but was never injury prone before that. Could easy see him getting 15+ goals for Bohs next season. I'd ignore recent form for Derry, he got limited starts after coming back from latest injury, in a team that were tailing off badly on general form, on a pitch he definitley didnt want to play on. Top quality lad with a brilliant attitude to go with it.
in fairness, he’s a great credit to yourself and Mrs Whelan!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bowler
I saw him play an U20's game during the summer. He scored a worldy and then went off injured after 30 odd minutes. Seemed to sum up his time at Derry. Hopefully he gets a good run of games and gets some form and fitness back.
Rob Slevin the latest of last years squad to sign up.
Is there a summary for ins and outs for each club anywhere? I know it's still early but there is a lot of re-signings and releases happening.
For Bohs
Ins
Colm Whelan - Derry
Christopher Conlon - Bohs u17
Outs
Danny Grant
Paddy Kirk
Declan McDaid
Martin Miller
Brian McManus
James Akintunde
Philip Piszcech
Jevon Mills (end of loan)
I saw extratime had a list up but just at a glance I spotted some errors. Don't think the general lack of clarity from the clubs themselves helps with having any kind of good league-wide resource.
My understanding of where Pats are at currently is:
In:
Power
Under contract:
Anang
Rogers
Redmond
Turner
Keeley
Breslin
Kazeem
Lennon
Bolger
Forrester
B. Kavanagh
Leavy
Mulraney
Elbouzedi
Melia
Keena
Out of contract/unconfirmed/end of loan:
Sjoberg
McLaughlin
Grisvosti
Palmer
McClelland
Nolan
C. Kavanagh
The seemingly unlikely event of all of Sjoberg, Grivosti and Palmer staying would be wonderful. The rest are varying degrees of take it or leave it.
Niall Morahan signed for Bohs. Didn't see that one coming at all. That midfield is something else now.
I don’t think anyone did. Lot of options in midfield. Need some defenders next. Particularly LB.Quote:
Originally Posted by RealJohn91
I rate Morahan but that feels more like a devastating loss to Sligo than it is a big addition for Bohs, just given the respective squads.
Too many in midfield to get games imo- Tierney, Clarke, Devoy, Rooney, Morahan, Buckley, McDonnell, McManus and perhaps Flores- although you've got to assume that Flores is in doubt.
McManus would also be a surprising release, might be loaned out.
Would Reynolds keep him on for LB? Hasn't been convincing there. Also not sure if there's a place for Buckley- unless he might cover @RB.
You'd imagine Morahan will play given that signing. Would Clarke be back up for Whelan, not a striker though.
I can see Flores being kept just because he can play in so many positions. Now it's another story if he actually plays well in any of them but I can see a managers thinking with someone like him.
I thought Clarke grew into the striker role decently towards the end of the season, his link up play especially was coming on a lot but you'd really only want to be playing him there again in an emergency.
Bucko is a difficult one, love the fella but he's not a young lad anymore and his game was all about energy and running. Who knows if he's close to the same player after the ACL. Hasn't really happened for McManus either with his injuries, still only young mind but he needs a full season of football under his belt and I don't see that happening with us. I'd extend his deal if possible and send him out of loan.
I think this signing means McDonnell and Flores are gone, pretty sure both are out of contract at the end of November. Reynolds has been pretty ruthless in his squad building so wouldn't be surprised if Bucko moves on come July. Much like Grant he hasn't been the same since his return, is likely on a big wage and you can add to this his age and suffering a pretty significant injury and I think his place in the squad, never mind the team isn't a nailed on certainty. Rooneys a winger so him playing wouldn't impact the other lads. So I see it as 5 players for 3 spots in Morahan, McManus, Devoy, Tierney, ClarkeQuote:
Originally Posted by Bohtastic
Flores has been played by Reynolds more often than not- irrespective of fans' antipathy towards him. Wouldn't be surprised if he was kept on. I'd move him on though. McDonnell was also one of the few players who performed consistently last year. Bucko seems the most obvious casualty, but a big decision to move him on. It will definitely be Reynolds' team now. No excuses.
Flores, like Patching, is an interesting footballing character, bags of ability that always seemed to be considered more as potential. Neither really grafted, moments of class meant they werent overly criticised for going missing in games, the sort of player that LoI fans tend to be most impatient with. Both should be playing at higher levels than LoI, or top of every LoI fans wishlist, tearing the league up. Both have or are letting their football careers drift past them, for the sake of some real drive, give either of these midfielders the work ethic of say a Conor McCormack and they'd have had super careers in the top 2 tiers in England imo. I think its telling that neither Bohs or Derry fans care that they are moving on. Dundalk fans were disapointed previously so yeah they showed moments but plateaued and is meh.
How do boez afford these signings, given as they wont be in Europe next season, and weren't this season either?
is it purely down to merch or do boez have a financial backer now?
We don't have a backer
Everyone's going to have a lot more money next season