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Can you recall FAI CUP 1/4 final April 1986 Cork v Derry at flower lodge can you remember how many fans took to Cork that day. You telling me they spent nothing in Cork. Monaghan 1985 lashing it down in November how many fans went to Belgium Park that day 3,000 . Enough saidQuote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
You said they were "keeping the towns and cities they were playing in in business" - i.e. that one game you mentioned kept Cork city as a whole in business until next Derry came to visit?
In fairness Tiktok he's right.Quote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
I remember it was the main reason why Apple moved into Holyhill, nothing to do with the corporate tax rate, it was a few thousand Derry fans who came to town once a year for 2 hours.
If they had been in the league a few years earlier Fords would have survived.
They used to buy copious amount of cement and Coke concentrate, among other things, in Drogheda in the late 80s.
You're some boy, Yeez are famous for not spending 1 cent on your travels! Busloads of cheap beer and fags and no food for a day.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Flexy
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Originally Posted by CSFShels
We are in the 'north'
If you mean back into the IL how could you personally have shipped us into the IL?
Looking forward to next season already ;)
Are the away games free entrance now?Quote:
Originally Posted by corkharps
Nice one ;)
To be fair, Derry folk are notoriously quite tight (as the reasonably unfair stereotype goes).Quote:
Originally Posted by VinnyDCFC
I remember it well there was indeed a lot of derry supporters (3000 is a slight exageration) 1500 maybe and about half paid in while the remainder sat on the wall outside and had the best view of the game. the supporters never entered the town so the lone shop outside the ground had a very good day .I look forward to the return of these crowds and the great crack as they are undouthabaly the best supporters in the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flexy
Latest I'm hearing is that 'Derry City' will not afterall be allowed into the Setanta Cup. Can anyone confirm?
so what happens next??I suppose it was going to happen.. Its an awful pity that the setanta cup wasnt in its normal schedule like previous seasons then we wouldnt have to encounter this fiasco if it turns out to be true..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
It's a hell of a lot more of a fiasco if the new club magically takes the old club's place.
Exactly... It's a new club so it shouldn't be taking the old 'cheating' teams place...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
What makes you think that this is the case ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
The third winding up order we were told by the FAI that they would under no circumstances help us in any way and that if it was not paid by a certain date (not the high court date) that we'd be kicked out of football.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
As with the previous two winding up orders it was paid.
You can all rake over old shels issues all you like but the two situations are very different. Shels remain a club in serious debt with many creditors still to be paid from a crazy period for the club.
We missed players payments and eventually paid them late. Minor issues these days when you see what clubs have been doing!
We also had three winding up orders against us and probably deserved some form of punishment but at the same time they were all settled in time. I think Cork had two winding up orders themselves that year too.
Also one important point to note is that all the faults at shels came before any 65% rules.
We offered crazy contracts, found it very difficult to make the payments, borrowed left right and center, eventually sold our ground and spent millions of that too before eventually every well within a 500km radius of Tolka Park ran dry.
We're still paying those debts.
Should been shipped back to the IL where you belong :pQuote:
Originally Posted by higgins
It's probably been said loads of times on this thread before, so I appologise in advance.
Whats the current situation, will Derry :
1. Get a Premier Division license ?
2. Get aa First Divison license ?
3. Move to the Irish League ?
Getting a first division license is the only likely outcome.
Oh right.Quote:
Mr A Wrote :
Getting a first division license is the only likely outcome.
Cheers Mr. A.
Delaney has pretty much told us not to apply for a premier, apply for a First division license and take your punishment. Which is fair enough, and much more than most Derry fans expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iorfa2MaccaJim
Despite what has been reported, I dont think the IL was ever even considered, we are an EL club, and everyone involved wanted to remain that way.
The reason Shels kept going was because it had an asset, namely the ground, emphasis on "had". Its impressive you got the whole way through that post without mentioning the Revenue Commissioners. Were the tax bills missed payments or "revised" assessments based on new information?Quote:
Originally Posted by higgins
I haven't defended the actions of the Derry board and I'm not going to start now, they are a bunch of crooks as far as I'm concerned and I hope they get barred from football and directorships for a very long time.
But at the same time I'm not going to sit and listen to Shels fans trying to re-write or gloss over history.
So Derry aren't yet confirmed a first division place? When does it all get sorted out and you's know where you's are playing next season?
Probably the night before the season starts.Quote:
Originally Posted by monkey9
We will find out same as every other team applying for a first division licienseQuote:
Originally Posted by monkey9
Technically no club knows where they will be playing next season. I think the results of licensing applications are announced about two weeks before the season officially starts.Quote:
Originally Posted by monkey9
Two weeks? That's pretty late, no? Meh, that's the FAI.
Does this mean that there will be a chance for Cork or Galway to stay in the Premier?
Linfield to pull out of Setanta Cup scrap with Derry
Link
End of the tournament then. Nice while it lasted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
http://www.derryjournal.com/journal/...led.5986539.jp
The first accurate number on the assets and liabilities of Wellvan.
http://www.derryjournal.com/derry-sp...ll-.5975186.jp
"I've detected a feel-good factor when people are talking about the season ahead and I think there will be a buzz about the place"
Sounds like Derry are moving on and are positive about the future
Shocking!Quote:
Originally Posted by srfc1928
Aye, shocking... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by corkharps
It's shocking that fans of a club who went to the wall are looking forward to the forthcoming season considering that three months ago there was little or no chance of senior football in Derry.
A new club has been formed and probably 98-100% of the previous club's fans will weigh in behind the new club.
One thing's for sure though and that's the 3 points to Derry for each match we play the harps this year, some things never ever change!
How could this 'never ever change' when this new club based in derry havent played harps yet? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfc1928
Btw do this new club in derry have to make a new application for special permission to play in the league from uefa or fifa or whoever had to give the previous club in derry permission seen as they're not in the republic of ireland? Genuine question btw as they are a brand new club, and i havent seen it mentioned anywhere
Integrety and honesty!:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfc1928
It is a valid question. Unfortunately, nobody actually knows anything about the issue, so we ended getting stuck on the one question which is obviously important, but which no-one could answer, so it kept getting asked again and pointed out how important it was, but no-one could answer, so...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmo
Bottom line, the thread got bogged down on that whole issue, so it was locked for a few days and restarted with the notion that what will happen over the border issue will happen, that internet discussion won't actually change any of it and that if anyone had any actual real information, feel free to post away.
This argument hides the real issue of cheating. Stephen Kenny will (may) be allowed to go unpunished and be allowed to be employed in football despite the dual contracts of last season! If indeed he didn't know anything about this, brand new shinny no cheating derry city football and greyhound racing club should claim some kind of disability allowance for employing the man!
Get it outta ye.....!Quote:
Originally Posted by corkharps
On the re-igniting of the tiresome IFA point, surely if Derry City do get a license (and therefore are de facto members of the FAI), the whole IFA thing is a moot point?
The issue of creditors is a separate issue, and I hope all valid creditors get paid as much as possible.
P.S. Mr. Parker, now that Wellvan's administrator has formally published the full list of declared creditors, how much are Cliftonville owed on it? The Journal article only listed the top few in any detail (Revenue, BoI etc.).
Has the full list been published? Link?Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
I would imagine if the papers have details of the biggest creditors and a fairly exact total amount, per the Derry Urinal link above, that all creditors have been notified whether or not they are a creditor, what the value of their claim is, and how they rank in preference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
Have Cliftonville received any communication from the administrator?
In other news, Mark Farren has signed, with a few more to follow this week.
Barry Molloy is on trial with Bristol Rovers, they've arranged a match on the 25th of January in order to have a look at him. He has a few other options back in Ireland, including a contract offer from Derry.