Mulla just see a few of your posts there a lot of people say a lot of things.I don't think you should be posting what you are posting when you really don't know do you???so give it a break please.Quote:
Originally Posted by mulla
Printable View
Mulla just see a few of your posts there a lot of people say a lot of things.I don't think you should be posting what you are posting when you really don't know do you???so give it a break please.Quote:
Originally Posted by mulla
Doesn't help the fact that St.Michaels have a very friendly relationship with the FAI that was proved when the Irish national team trained there for the games in Thomond.
lads any player or supporter on here from limerick and are talking s*** about pike rovers would want to go away and get there head examined and start backing the local side and put aside all the jealousy they have for pike.we are all jealous of pike and the bigger clubs for one reason or another but at the end of the day they are a limerick team representing pike and limerick in an fai competition.hope pike go on to next stage of appeal and win it.Quote:
Originally Posted by serpico
Fair play to you faces.Quote:
Originally Posted by faces
Lads i'm not in anyones corner but i am miffed about a couple of things. Pike got a letter stating Colm could play in the quarter final against Michael's so did they feel they needed it to prove he was in the clear or what. Next thing is St Michael's lost the game to a team who in the eyes of the junior council was legit seeing as this player was now clear so how in the hell are they geting back into the competition, they lost fair and square and it relates to games Colm had played earlier in the competition so in my eyes St Michael's should do the dignified thing and withdraw from the competition. As for Pike, we all know what is going on up there in relation to a few lads getting expense, so what, good luck to them if they are travelling in for training from long distances and it seems the senior council think they are acting in a professional manner but the FAI have no more proof than any other of us. They are going on hear say. I think Pike won through with the squad they signed at the start of the seaon and every one of us knew who was signed so its not like they transferred Colm in just for one game and cheated in a blatant manner. I'm sure like the rest of us JUNIOR players Colm just wants to play ball and compete for big trophies, don't know him but its not nice for someone to be hung out as an excuse when he did nothing wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by serpico
As Goals4Fun says and he is right the FAI are a disgrace, they never release statements to explain anything, their rules are very ambiguous and they are not there for the good of football, they are living in the distant past with their dinosaur members and they need a reality check.
For what its worth as a Limerick man i wish Pike the bet in whatever avenue they decide to go down and even though the competition is tarnished this season, i still hope the best team wins it
The F.A.I are an absolute joke of an organisation. St.Michaels are after opening a can of worms with this appeal and it doesn't surprise me one bit with the ruling considering those clowns Tom Lewis and Delaney are pulling the strings. As much as I would love to see Pike go through, I'm not sure it will happen considering how much of a raw deal Carew Park got a few years back. I don't think Aisling will try to get reinstated, even if Pike are removed, as some clubs still have a bit of dignity. St.Michaels had no right to appeal a decision for a game which did not concern them and they have lost alot of respect to get back into a competition that they won't win anyway.
Roy Keane was correct about the FAI - MUPPETS!! The FAI cup has lost its prestige and class as a the biggest club competition in Europe simply becase the FAI themselves cannot relay to each club the rules of competition. I think they need to bring back a rule which prevents players from leaving senior set-ups and going directly into a junior team,maybe a 3 or 6 month period where the player does not play?? This could maybe prevent a junior club trying to build a team for the FAI cup as soon as the Senior domestic season finishes in February which is just when the Junior season begins to hit the business end.??
What round did the illegal player play in? And if Pike are thrown out why let Michaels into the semi, cant the team Pike beat to get to the quarters be reinstated to play Michaels in the quarters?
I doubt this has anything much to do with Delaney or Tom Lewis. The senior council apparently made it clear to more than one interested party that it wouldn't be right having what they consider a LOI Senior side winning their prestigious Junior Cup, and were prepared to try and stop them by any means possible. Any co-incidence then that Mike O'Brien, a Limerick man who played with St Michaels and is heavily involved in the FAI junior scene as head scout for Gerry Smith, starts taking an interest in the registration of Pike Rovers players and enlists the help and advice of his pal, the pet shop boy, who gets a lot of his information on LOI issues from his pal, the butcher.
The one clear thing in all of this is that Saint Micheals should not be in the competition, whatever about Pike. Maybe Pike deserve to be kicked out too, but in fairness to them they got bum advice from the LDMC....Was it a conspiracy all along I wonder? Call Mulder and Scully. All this is going to do is destroy whatever integrity this competition had left. It woold take at least 6-8 weeks for this to go to arbitration I presume, by which time the Senior Cup will also be affected.
Hats off to you all in Abbottstown. Ye really do know how to make a mountain out of a molehill.
You left out the gaa player tsdl oc manager.great post though the fai bottled it big time.
Dont forget o.h.hidel
Stop embarrassing yourself, and your not involved in the dines so stop making a fool of urselfQuote:
Originally Posted by mulla
Pike have(or should have) 10 days from special rulings to appeal the decision from the date of issue, so 10 days from Tuesday 13th. I'd imagine they'll call some sort of EGM over the week I'd imagine and decide the best avenue to follow. I hope they take this to arbitration. However it'll cost them an awful lot of money, especially for a Junior club. This entire fiasco has left a bad taste in my mouth regards the FAI.
As a Limerick man I wish Pike Rovers the very best of luck however they wish to proceed. It'd be fantastic to see the 2 best sides in junior soccer at the moment(Fairview and Pike) battle out an FAI cup final in Jackman park.
In reply to the above, Pike would have done exactly the same if shoe was on the other foot, why is everyone vilifying Saint Michaels when all they did was take an avenue that was open to them, they were fully entitled to do so as already said, the player involved scored against Saints. It is not Saint's problem that this happened to come to the fore when they played Pike. People are mentioning names from Limerick who are close to Saints. This is totaly rubbish. Saints found out about this fair and square (just like Pike did a few years ago) and Pike had no pity for Town when they got them thrown out of Munster Junior Cup a few years. As you say, it's all Karma. No Club in this Country should be especially put together to try and win an FAI Cup, how are smaller Clubs in the towns and villages expected to play against the like of Pike Rovers when they dont play fair! St. Michaels are through fair and square and have a right to try and win it, anyone who says different are just jealous or two faced if they are involved with Pike when they appealed against Town some time back, Get on with it! Pike can take it all they like to Arbitration but the result will stay the same, They even got fined! They were totally wrong and the FAI Junior Council should have taken the correct stand from day one!Quote:
Originally Posted by Damo
Have to say even as a Fairview man all i can do is feel sorry for Pike.I have numerous old good friends up there who put in a lot of hard work behind the scenes and they are just gutted about what has gone on.I really dont get all this hatred of Pike - yes they have a few loud mouth idiots following(what club doesnt) them that probably tarnish the reputation of the rest of the club but the majority of them are sound honest lads.
As regards arbitration i feel its probably a lost cause - cant see the FAI senior councul putting themselves in the position where its possible there decision could be overturned and i also believe its unhread of for 1 of there decisions to be over ruled.
Pike wern't so embarrassed to take part in the Munster Junior Cup after appealing against CLonmel Town a few years back, dont be so hypocritical! that is a ridiculous statement to make
I'm sure Pike Rovers committee and members will continue the matter in the best way possible(for them). It'd be a horrible thing for them to look back on in years to come and say they should have took the matter as far as it can go after accepting the decision. Only time will tell I suppose.
Stop trying to move the attention away from yourself, you mentioned lol senior side, all players that played against st michaels were junior players all of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by juniorballer
Seriously...are you trying to test the theory of evolution here??:confused2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Poolman
How am I moving attention from myself? What the hell have I got to do with any of this? What I was saying is that the senior council of the FAI are annoyed that there are so many recent ex LOI players in Pikes squad and this could be why they have come down so heavy on them.
Read my post again...you'll see I'm quite supportive of Pike.
Jesus you were a Dublin man a few weeks ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by blinkx
Can I ask the 'Pike' people if you think you deserve to be still in the competition after fielding an illegible player in it?? I'm not looking for Saints did this or someone tipped them off or we've been screwed by the FAI etc. I know you must be sick over whats happened and its come as a kick in the teeth. But as a straw poll 'Should Pike be still in the FAI Junior Cup after playing an illegible player?' yes or no??
Why not? Pike were 100% legal when they played st michaels.st micks objected with no proof whatsoever that pike were illegal which has been proved.so you tell me why st micks objection was upheld.don't want a big rigmarone, just the facts.Now it's the st micks objection we are talking bout here and nothing else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longshanks
Quote:
Originally Posted by Longshanks
no.....
another club from the same limerick were thrown out earlier so it has to be the same for pike
I wonder wether part of the problem lies in the overall structure of football in the Republic, in that you have on paper 3 tiers - Senior, Intermediate & Junior though I do wonder exactly what the differance actually is between Intermediate & Junior.
With most countries you would expect that players would move through the tiers as their carreers progressed or declined, however here it may appear players in decline jump tiers . This being partly that a lot of clubs refuse to move through the tiers themselves as in a normal pyramid system. So a number of clubs that compete at an apparent Junior level in reality are probably Intermediate set up.
Taking Munster for example, there is the Munster Senior League (though predominatly a Cork City/East County geographical area). backed up by at Junior Level the various County Leagues.
Evidently junior teams in their County Leagues do not wish due to finance restrictions progress in a pyramid system and thus remain big fish in small ponds. Untill such time a proper pyramid system is instigated that the ongoing problem of registering ex senior players may always continue.
Historically Pike, Clonmel, Tipperayey,Cahir, Janesboro, Limerick Trojans, a number of Waterford teams, Tralee and Killarney have at times partaken in the MSL. Which in theory should be the principle league for the whole Province.
Admittingly to force clubs to move up levels can lead to financial burden. Either make the principle County Divisions Intermediate level, though I would suggest introducing a regional Intermediate level below the Msl - North Munster, best teams from Clare, Limerick, ntdl and some Desmond/Kerry. East Munster - TDSL & Waterford. These regional divisions being fed with promotion/relegation from County divisions.
There has forever been problems of players being ineligble due to registration between moving between levels through out the history of football in Ireland, One way to possibly eradicate this is if clubs played at a correct level due to their ability and facilities.
So you are now telling people Serpico what they can talk about on a public forum? it was a very good post and on that angle and saints aside if Pike played an illegal player in any round then yes they should be gone and saints becomes another matterQuote:
Originally Posted by serpico
I'm told Pike's Munster Junior game this weekend has been pulled.
Local matches next?
You obviously picked me up wrong.what I was saying was that the objection was from st micks and no-one else and pike were found guilty of no wrong doing.hope that clears it up for you.I'm not telling anybody what they can and can't post because they will post anything onhere anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mega Tots
ok fair enough but surely if Pike played an illegal player in any round then they should be expelled?? forget saint michaels for a momentQuote:
Originally Posted by serpico
But you can't forget Saint Michaels for any moment because they are gaining from a situation that legally doesn't concern them, whilst clubs it does concern, ie Aisling and Springfield should still be represented in the competition. There is a procedure to be followed regarding the objecting to illegal players with timeframes in place for such objections to be raised. This was not done in this case, and Saint Michaels have no right to still be in the competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mega Tots
ya just told by an ldmc member carew park came to them last night asking for the 3points when they played pike christ there 1 classy club talk about supporting your ownQuote:
Originally Posted by barryk
Serpico,Quote:
Originally Posted by serpico
By your logic Pike were 100% illegal against Aisling Annacotty!! I'll take that as a yes so
This thread is starting to go round in circles,I can't see any reason to keep it going unless people start posting original material,I think we're all aware of the facts at this stage so I suggest stopping rehashing the same old stuff again and again.
fact 1=aisling did not object and can not do so.fact 2 =springfield did not object and can not do so.these are facts whether pike were illegal against them or not and the same goes for any other soccer matches pike played in.as there are time scales for all these so called objections they are all expired by now.so lets all sit back and take a chill pill and see what the outcome as i said earlier in about 3 months time.its geting boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longshanks
Just close it now!! Do us all a favour!!Quote:
Originally Posted by the 12 th man
Fact 1 - illegalQuote:
Originally Posted by faces
Fact 2 - illegal
Fact 3 - Out
Great post.Quote:
Originally Posted by faces
Can you prove that long.if not shut it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longshanks
The Life President of Pike Rovers, Ger Frawley lost his wife Nancy to illness today. Nancy was a lifelong stalwart of the club and will be sorely missed.
Perhaps this silly bickering can stop for a while now as a mark of respect to Nancy and her family.
Ar dheis De go raibh a anam dilis.
by the sound of it they are supporting their own...carew park....i wonder how many other clubs will look for the points especially the clubs going for the league...fairview..regional..boro....watch this space
Is it not true that Pike played an illegal player? intentionally or not? the fact that you got away with it for 1 or 2 rounds doesnt make it acceptable. I know that you must be really hurting about how it has all been handled and that you were so close to the final, but would you seriously be happy to be looking at the 'holy grail' in the trophy cabinet of your fine clubhouse with 'this' hanging over you??Quote:
Originally Posted by serpico
Roll up your selves, get the paper work in order, dot all the i's cross all the t's and make 2011 Pikes year, if you ever needed motivation you have it now