American Politics

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Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid

ANTIFA is just one of the many things Trump supporters shout when pressed on his failings.

Justify 6th Jan? - But what about ANTIFA! It not really relevant to Trump supporters who they are..

Withdraw from climate agreements. - LOOK.- CHINA!

Trump is a convicted Felon! - BUT SLEEPY JOE IS A CROOK (apparently) .

Seanfhear has mentioned the Biden pardons 3 times in the last 2 days each time as if it's somehow fresh information.

It goes on and on.

Its FAUCI
It's those BLM people
It's FENTANYL
It's MEXICAN GANGS
It's TARIFFS

and the MSM like *checks notes - the BBC are covering all this up..

Nonsense.

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I wouldn’t argue against a lot of that. I just am not a fan of Antifa. In the same way I’m not a fan of the Proud Boys or whatever bunch of losers is applicable. Extremism just doesn’t do it for me no matter what shade of sh!te is being spewed. For what it’s worth, and believe it or not, I’m not a massive fan of Trump (I felt he was treated a bit unfairly throughout his first term but that’s different) - but I also don’t think he’s Hitler/fascist/racist.

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Originally Posted by mark12345

For the love of God will ya stop beating the dead horse.

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I'd be happy to - once you answer the question. It's very relevant to the discussion given you tried to use the BBC's lack of reputation as a journalistic outlet to dismiss comments discussed in the thread (specifically, why Biden pardoned Fauci and those who tried the rioters Trump has since pardoned)

And it's even more relevant given you now argue Levin is "a very reputable source" and ask me why I disagree. You ask me the same question you refuse to answer!

And you know what? I'll answer it. In fact, I've already answered it - I noted pages back that he was renowned for - and has a penchant for - outrage over substance. He's known for being uncivil, which is unhelpful in debate. He's also demonstrated a clear bias in his comments. I even gave a proper link with a selected quote to back my views up. (Let's not forget the video of his you linked to make a point wasn't even there!)

See how easy that is? Your turn now.

Why do you think the BBC is no longer a reputable journalistic outlet, in contradiction to an available evidence and views, including almost everyone on this thread? And let's not hear the same nonsense about how it's because some American media likened Trump to Hitler. That's not relevant

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

What's happened with BBC's Israel coverage? I haven't been watching it at all, so curious on that

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Well firstly, very little coverage of daily atrocities.

Secondly, the language used, where Israelis are murdered but Palestinians die, and so on.

It got to the point that I no longer check the BBC for news related to that. I go to The Independent site instead.

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Originally Posted by osarusan

Well firstly, very little coverage of daily atrocities.

Secondly, the language used, where Israelis are murdered but Palestinians die, and so on.

It got to the point that I no longer check the BBC for news related to that. I go to The Independent site instead.

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Alot of news outlets have done the same and it’s disgraceful,wasn’t it the BBC who used videos of Israeli hooligans going on the rampage in Amsterdam and said it was a video of them being attacked by locals ?? The word “pogrom” was used aswell I think……

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Originally Posted by joey B

Alot of news outlets have done the same and it’s disgraceful,wasn’t it the BBC who used videos of Israeli hooligans going on the rampage in Amsterdam and said it was a video of them being attacked by locals ?? The word “pogrom” was used aswell I think……

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Yeah, that was one example of the BBC, and as you say, many other media, behaving absolutely disgracefully in terms of their failure to correct a story.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I'd be happy to - once you answer the question. It's very relevant to the discussion given you tried to use the BBC's lack of reputation as a journalistic outlet to dismiss comments discussed in the thread (specifically, why Biden pardoned Fauci and those who tried the rioters Trump has since pardoned)

And it's even more relevant given you now argue Levin is "a very reputable source" and ask me why I disagree. You ask me the same question you refuse to answer!

And you know what? I'll answer it. In fact, I've already answered it - I noted pages back that he was renowned for - and has a penchant for - outrage over substance. He's known for being uncivil, which is unhelpful in debate. He's also demonstrated a clear bias in his comments. I even gave a proper link with a selected quote to back my views up. (Let's not forget the video of his you linked to make a point wasn't even there!)

See how easy that is? Your turn now.

Why do you think the BBC is no longer a reputable journalistic outlet, in contradiction to an available evidence and views, including almost everyone on this thread? And let's not hear the same nonsense about how it's because some American media likened Trump to Hitler. That's not relevant

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Wow!
What were you asked to speak about and what did you actually speak about? Where does Mark Levin come into presidential pardons?
If you want to keep playing cat and mouse you are welcome to do that. I'm afraid I won't be participating in your game.

Nope. You specifically asked me about Mark Levin. You in fact said (and I quote) "P.S. Mark Levin is a reputable source, a very reputable source. [...] What exactly do you dislike about him? I'd be interested to know."

But now I've answered your direct question, your position becomes "What were you asked to speak about and what did you actually speak about? Where does Mark Levin come into presidential pardons?"

We can all see your argument is all over the shop, and it severely undermines your credibility here.

Anyway, as you've avoided my question again, I'll ask it once more. Why do you think the BBC is no longer a reputable journalistic outlet, in contradiction to an available evidence and views, including almost everyone on this thread? And let's not hear the same nonsense about how it's because some American media likened Trump to Hitler. That's not relevant.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Nope. You specifically asked me about Mark Levin. You in fact said (and I quote) "P.S. Mark Levin is a reputable source, a very reputable source. [...] What exactly do you dislike about him? I'd be interested to know."

But now I've answered your direct question, your position becomes "What were you asked to speak about and what did you actually speak about? Where does Mark Levin come into presidential pardons?"

We can all see your argument is all over the shop, and it severely undermines your credibility here.

Anyway, as you've avoided my question again, I'll ask it once more. Why do you think the BBC is no longer a reputable journalistic outlet, in contradiction to an available evidence and views, including almost everyone on this thread? And let's not hear the same nonsense about how it's because some American media likened Trump to Hitler. That's not relevant.

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Nuts.

Why?

You ask me my view on something, I reply, you tell me that's not the question you asked, I tell you (quoting your post) it was, and you think that's nuts?

Isn't it interesting how you're practically unable to form a cogent argument?

Compare that with when I asked osarusan about his criticism of the BBC (which came with the initial caveat of "In general they're good") - he was able to make a couple of brief rational and specific points to support his view (on Israel/Palestine coverage in particular), which added to the debate.

You in the meantime have first off tried to rationalise your view of the BBC by saying some American media likens Trump to Hitler, then you run away like a child saying you don't want to answer the question, and now you resort to insults.

You could have just answered the question in all that time. But I suspect you don't actually know why your view of the BBC is what it is - you're just parroting stuff you've heard on a very narrow-focus range of social media outlets and you don't actually understand what it is you're saying. So when you're asked to support your view, you can't.

Between our own sniveling gombeens trying to sit on both sides of the oireachtas benches here and this rabbiting moron taking office again, the political landscape is pretty depressing at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid

Between our own sniveling gombeens trying to sit on both sides of the oireachtas benches here and this rabbiting moron taking office again, the political landscape is pretty depressing at the moment.

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I blame the Politicians that brought us to this place in the first place !

Why do Politicians get to walk away from the mess's that they leave behind them ? !

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Originally Posted by seanfhear

I blame the Politicians that brought us to this place in the first place !

Why do Politicians get to walk away from the mess's that they leave behind them ? !

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I mean no one is more critical of politicians than me but how is "I don't like the look of you" now acceptable. He's an awful awful human being.

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Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid

I mean no one is more critical of politicians than me but how is "I don't like the look of you" now acceptable. He's an awful awful human being.

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Do you like the look of Donald Trump ? ! ( wink )

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Originally Posted by osarusan

Yeah, that was one example of the BBC, and as you say, many other media, behaving absolutely disgracefully in terms of their failure to correct a story.

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And another example of media deception from this mornings New York Post.

https://nypost.com/2025/01/23/us-new...-other-scoops/

I'm certainly glad he didn't get elected president

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Originally Posted by mark12345

And another example of media deception from this mornings New York Post.

https://nypost.com/2025/01/23/us-new...-other-scoops/

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3 pages of the BBC discussion, now you are posting a link and it's to the nypost.

It's like being on the recieving end of an elaborate prank.

Tee hee!

I'm minded of the legendary "Dumbass" thread from years ago. I can't think why :)

america first!

Sure Trump is great!

Trump's press conference in the wake of the plane/helicopter crash must be one of the most tone-deaf moments of American presidency I've ever seen.

He had one job - to console and send thoughts and prayers, but he could not resist banging on about diversity and weakness. Then he's asked if he'll visit the site, and he asks if they want him to go swimming.

Normally I'd say he is astonishingly out of touch, but actually he has a cohort of fanatical supporters who will support and defend him, not matter how utterly stupid or crass his behaviour. I guess he is in touch with them.