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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    The BBC have the huge advantage of not having advertisements ~ ~ And yet People are cancelling the TV license in big numbers[/quote ]
    You don't have to have ads on streaming either.

    And 2% isn't a huge number. It appears a small number of people are now happy to binge-watch a narrow selection of shows; that's all

    It certainly doesn't show the BBC isn't a reputable journalistic outlet any more
    Actually ~ 2% is a big number whey you consider that the BBC was at one time greatly respected in the UK ~ It isn't anymore, when you consider all of the Defund The BBC Campaigns !

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    I never said I supported anything. I asked if you are against AntiFA, what are you in favour of
    "If you're against Antifa, what are you in favour of?"

    I am certainly not in favour of Antifa. Their name suggests that they are anti-facist but their actions are anything but anti-facist.
    Surely you agree with me that their actions in the summer of 2018 were beyond reprehensible?

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    Despite the source, I enjoyed this takedown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    And I asked you why you held that view, given it's at odds with pretty much the worldwide view of the BBC as one of, if not the, foremost journalistic outlet.

    But you're unable to answer that.

    You have a lot of views you can't back up.
    "I would be happy to discuss the BBC at some point later," from a previous post. The reasoning - the BBC is not in the news at this time. The pardons by Biden and Trump are. Feel free to speak in detail about both, like I asked you to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid View Post


    Despite the source, I enjoyed this takedown.
    The usual virtue signalling and posturing, from somebody that probably lives in a Bishops Palace behind high walls.

    The American People just voted decisively to put a stop to the virtue signalling nonsense that this privileged Bishop is pulpit-ing ! !

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    The usual virtue signalling and posturing, from somebody that probably lives in a Bishops Palace behind high walls.

    The American People just voted decisively to put a stop to the virtue signalling nonsense that this privileged Bishop is pulpit-ing ! !
    It's interesting that you, like the new President, should attack the messenger here and not the message.

    Trumps complete lack of empathy will be the main reason he gets nothing achieved. All he has are these XO's and most of them from a policy standpoint will be legally challenged the same as last time. In order to get things done you need to work with people. He's all stage and no substance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid View Post
    It's interesting that you, like the new President, should attack the messenger here and not the message.

    Trumps complete lack of empathy will be the main reason he gets nothing achieved. All he has are these XO's and most of them from a policy standpoint will be legally challenged the same as last time. In order to get things done you need to work with people. He's all stage and no substance.
    You do understand how Democracy works ~ ~ President Donald J Trump has just won decisively the election on his manifesto ~ ~ He is also is a strong position in the House and Senate.

    President Donald J Trump has an obligation to instigate his manifesto ~ A Democratic duty to do that !

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    You do understand how Democracy works ~ ~ President Donald J Trump has just won decisively the election on his manifesto ~ ~ He is also is a strong position in the House and Senate.

    President Donald J Trump has an obligation to instigate his manifesto ~ A Democratic duty to do that !
    His only duty in his own mind is to himself . The only reason he ran was to try and stave off prison. Now himself and Melania are billions of dollars up on a Ponzi crypto scheme . Everything to him is purely business. He cares not a jot about the average American. He'll be playing golf 4 times a week and making speeches for the next 4 years and if enough people swallow his guff he might set up Ivanka or Barron to go next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid View Post
    His only duty in his own mind is to himself . The only reason he ran was to try and stave off prison. Now himself and Melania are billions of dollars up on a Ponzi crypto scheme . Everything to him is purely business. He cares not a jot about the average American. He'll be playing golf 4 times a week and making speeches for the next 4 years and if enough people swallow his guff he might set up Ivanka or Barron to go next.
    And you think the Shower that are at the top of the Democrat Party are any different ? !

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    And you think the Shower that are at the top of the Democrat Party are any different ? !
    Deflecting again. No answer.

    You've gone from 'duty to implement a manifesto' to 'ah sure I know he's corrupt but they are all the same' in 2 posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid View Post
    Deflecting again. No answer.

    You've gone from 'duty to implement a manifesto' to 'ah sure I know he's corrupt but they are all the same' in 2 posts.
    You do realise that Joe Biden has just pardoned a good number of his family !

    Not to mention the January 6th committee and Fauci !

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    The BBC or CNN/Fox?
    BBC. I never watch the others.

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    What a thread

    Antifa sounds great in principle but the problem is that the definition of fascist has been *******ized to include anyone that doesnt think exactly like me/us. It just defeats the whole purpose of meaningfully combatting actual fascism and racism - and clouds the otherwise worthy principle. There is a reason they are still fairly fringe - most people look at what they do and think "I could be next". At a simple level, it is a dangerous extension of the stupid cancel culture that is also prevalent. I am anti-fascism and anti-racism (like most - 99% of - normal people) but i would never align with Antifa. There has been a lot of needless violence and criminal damage carried out in their name. No thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    "If you're against Antifa, what are you in favour of?"

    I am certainly not in favour of Antifa. Their name suggests that they are anti-facist but their actions are anything but anti-facist.
    Surely you agree with me that their actions in the summer of 2018 were beyond reprehensible?
    So you're against the group that are against fascism. So, you're in favour of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    So you're against the group that are against fascism. So, you're in favour of it?
    Playing word games now are we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    You do understand how Democracy works ~ ~ President Donald J Trump has just won decisively the election on his manifesto ~ ~ He is also is a strong position in the House and Senate.

    President Donald J Trump has an obligation to instigate his manifesto ~ A Democratic duty to do that !
    Good point Sean. People tend to forget that Donald Trump has an obligation to keep the promises he made on the campaign trail (instigate his manifesto as you put it). Just hours in office, he has ordered the release of the J6 prisoners (some who haven't even been charged let alone gone to trial). Promises made, promises kept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    What a thread

    Antifa sounds great in principle but the problem is that the definition of fascist has been *******ized to include anyone that doesnt think exactly like me/us. It just defeats the whole purpose of meaningfully combatting actual fascism and racism - and clouds the otherwise worthy principle. There is a reason they are still fairly fringe - most people look at what they do and think "I could be next". At a simple level, it is a dangerous extension of the stupid cancel culture that is also prevalent. I am anti-fascism and anti-racism (like most - 99% of - normal people) but i would never align with Antifa. There has been a lot of needless violence and criminal damage carried out in their name. No thanks.
    ANTIFA is just one of the many things Trump supporters shout when pressed on his failings.

    Justify 6th Jan? - But what about ANTIFA! It not really relevant to Trump supporters who they are..

    Withdraw from climate agreements. - LOOK.- CHINA!

    Trump is a convicted Felon! - BUT SLEEPY JOE IS A CROOK (apparently) .

    Seanfhear has mentioned the Biden pardons 3 times in the last 2 days each time as if it's somehow fresh information.

    It goes on and on.

    Its FAUCI
    It's those BLM people
    It's FENTANYL
    It's MEXICAN GANGS
    It's TARIFFS

    and the MSM like *checks notes - the BBC are covering all this up..

    Nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    "I would be happy to discuss the BBC at some point later," from a previous post. The reasoning - the BBC is not in the news at this time. The pardons by Biden and Trump are. Feel free to speak in detail about both, like I asked you to do.
    No, I asked you about the BBC in the context of the pardons. I used their reporting to shed some light on Biden's pardons, and your response was to say the BBC wasn't a reputable news source. I'm asking you why, given you think Mark Levin is a reputable source. So far, your only response has been to argue it's because American media sites have likened Trump to Hitler. Surely even you can see that argument makes no sense?

    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    Actually ~ 2% is a big number whey you consider that the BBC was at one time greatly respected in the UK ~ It isn't anymore, when you consider all of the Defund The BBC Campaigns !
    No it's not?

    And any idiot can start a campaign or a petition. Doesn't mean anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    BBC. I never watch the others.
    What's happened with BBC's Israel coverage? I haven't been watching it at all, so curious on that

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    No, I asked you about the BBC in the context of the pardons. I used their reporting to shed some light on Biden's pardons, and your response was to say the BBC wasn't a reputable news source. I'm asking you why, given you think Mark Levin is a reputable source. So far, your only response has been to argue it's because American media sites have likened Trump to Hitler. Surely even you can see that argument makes no sense?.
    For the love of God will ya stop beating the dead horse. For the umpteenth time I would be happy to discuss the BBC "at a later time." Remind me, was there any other element to our ongoing discussion, like something I asked you to do (instead of me answering the questions all of the time). How about you do that first, and we can progress from there.

    P.S. Mark Levin is a reputable source, a very reputable source. He's a legal scholar, has a national audience and has some very high-profile guests on his show. He is well thought of in conservative circles and is an authority on the constitution. What exactly do you dislike about him? I'd be interested to know.

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