Champions League/Europa League draws 2010

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Why can't this be held at Aviva Stadium? It would sell out for sure. Juventus playing in some tin pot stadium doesn't make sense.

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There are several reasons:

1) Tallaght Stadium is already declared as the venue to UEFA
2) Shamrock Rovers fans are the first prioirity and most would feel passionate about having it in Tallaght
3) The big money is in the TV rights, and the TV will pay the same money irrespective of venue
4) There is only one week to promote the game - Aviva would not automatically be a big deal financially given the probable high costs involved.
5) Shamrock Rovers can create an enormous demand relative to supply and therefore create a big "desirability factor" from within the communities they wish to target as long term supporters

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Originally Posted by Jicked

Does that include the temp stands Dundalk used tonight?

I'd expect temp stands behind each goal in Tallaght next week for Juve, though capacity will still be restricted due to logistics/time constraints.

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Dundalk did not have any temporary stands.

UEFA regulations specifically prohibit temporary stands - it's hard to imagine how any new structure could get UEFA approval in the time available

Why would they have it in the aviva??
yes there is money but

1: rovers will not be at all used to the pitch and teh huge crowd
2: bigger teams will be more used to big hostile crowds and going to a samller grownd will have a cycological advantage.

i am a bray fan and would love to wish rovers the best of look in the next round .
whoe knows ??

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Originally Posted by Jicked

Does that include the temp stands Dundalk used tonight?

I'd expect temp stands behind each goal in Tallaght next week for Juve, though capacity will still be restricted due to logistics/time constraints.

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What temp stands??? All our seats are bolted to the ground.

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Originally Posted by Dunny

What temp stands??? All our seats are bolted to the ground.

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As opposed to the Rovers seats which would be bolted where?

srfc twitter page already suggests we'll be playing in tallaght with additional stands.

(EDIT, sorry, meant without additional stands!)

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Originally Posted by Jicked

As opposed to the Rovers seats which would be bolted where?

srfc twitter page already suggests we'll be playing in tallaght with additional stands.

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Our seats were bolted into the concrete in the shed, Town end terrace and carrick road terrace which have steps/levels. How can Rovers do this without a supporting infrastructure on either end of the Tallaght Stadium?


Also,Listen to this guy he knows his stuff.

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Dundalk did not have any temporary stands.

UEFA regulations specifically prohibit temporary stands - it's hard to imagine how any new structure could get UEFA approval in the time available

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Im not having a go or anything but this is what we understood.

Are you sure you're not confusing regulations for international games with European competition games?

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ShamrockRovers
Don't think so @Reillinho: For the @ShamrockRovers v Juve game next week, will UEFA allow Rovers to have the temp seats behind the goals!

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I'd have thought the official Rovers twitter page has a better idea than most about this, but I guess we'll see in the next few days

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Originally Posted by Jicked

Are you sure you're not confusing regulations for international games with European competition games?



I'd have thought the official Rovers twitter page has a better idea than most about this, but I guess we'll see in the next few days

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This is from the UEFA Stadium Infrastructure Regulations 2010 (if you search on this forum you will find a link previously posted to uefa.com). The extract here relates to all stadium categories:

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Section 2: Spectator-related areas
Article 15 - Stands and spectator facilities
1) Seats for spectators must be individual, fixed (e.g. to the floor), separated fromone another, shaped, numbered, made of an unbreakable and non-flammable
material, and have a backrest of a minimum height of 30cm when measured from the seat.
2) The use of temporary stands is prohibited.
3) The stadium must be equipped with refreshment and catering facilities for allspectators in every sector of the stadium.

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Fair enough, but whats the difference between temporary and removable? I guess we'll be going with 6,500 so, which is a pity but at least looks after all our own fans.

BTW, this is a fantastic conversation to be having a couple of years after going to Cobh, Athlone and Ballyboffey.
Just shows that comments from the likes of Fenlon (and others) about Irish teams not being able to compete anymore is way off. Fingal put it up to a Portuguese team, Rovers fully deserved to beat an Israeli team over two legs, the better team in each game. With all due respect to Dundalk and Bohs, both Fingal and Rovers went in to those games in good health, on and off the pitch, gave everything they had over 180 minutes and didn't need excuses made afterwards. We're not as bad a league as we might think.

The only downside of all this is that the Rovers-Bohs game in Tallaght at the start of August will now have to be postponed, a pity considering how well we're doing and how all over the place Bohs seem. Not the worst problem to have going to bed tonight though of course.

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Originally Posted by Jicked

The only downside of all this is that the Rovers-Bohs game in Tallaght at the start of August will now have to be postponed, a pity considering how well we're doing and how all over the place Bohs seem. Not the worst problem to have going to bed tonight though of course.

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Surely just moved to the Sunday???

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Why can't this be held at Aviva Stadium? It would sell out for sure. Juventus playing in some tin pot stadium doesn't make sense.

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It can't be at Lansdowne, as it erm, isn't open yet. Regardless if it was, our stadium is built for these games, and was created with it in mind. We went through a lot to play in our stadium, and we're not going to surrender home advantage for Italians.

Stands = check.
Floodlights = check.
Press area = check.
Catering facilities = check

Tallaght is not Tolka Park, and we're not Shelbourne. Nevertheless, the Barcodes will play in a tinpot stadium in the tie. It's known as Modena in 2 weeks time.

Well done to Rovers. Fantastic win. Thought some might like the quote from a Bnei fan I found on the internet to swop a programme from Tallaght for one from last night.
He sent me an email after the game

"Congratulations! Shamrock Rovers have excellent team, great fans and fairly clear victory."

I was at Fingal last night and they did well but were beaten by a better side. Great roar when they announced the result from Tel Aviv. Thankfully Rovers went through. It would have been a horrible day/weekend in th epress with all 4 teams out and the usual suspects having a go. Now it is all about Juventus. I just hope I can get a ticket for next Thursday.

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Why can't this be held at Aviva Stadium? It would sell out for sure. Juventus playing in some tin pot stadium doesn't make sense.

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Away to your barstool and let the real football fans talk.

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Why can't this be held at Aviva Stadium? It would sell out for sure. Juventus playing in some tin pot stadium doesn't make sense.

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To stop day-trippers like you getting tickets.

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Originally Posted by mypost

It can't be at Lansdowne, as it erm, isn't open yet. Regardless if it was, our stadium is built for these games, and was created with it in mind. We went through a lot to play in our stadium, and we're not going to surrender home advantage for Italians.

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Always makes me chuckle ;)

Hard luck to Sporting Fingal last night. Little bit of a pity they could not get through - had a very winnable tie against Bangor City of Wales in the next round.

You would expect Irish teams to progress against Welsh opposition......

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Originally Posted by stovelid

To stop day-trippers like you getting tickets.

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Well Rovers will just have to wait until May to play a Europa League game in the Aviva. They're dead right to keep it in Tallaght and look after their own fans. Day trippers going to the Aviva prob wouldn't even be able to find Tallaght stadium after.

It reminds me of the time that City were playing Red Star Belgrade. If they had won that game then AC Milan were in the next round. I remember a guy I know, big into football, goes to all Ireland games, but never darkened the door of Turners Cross, and he asked me could I get him a ticket should they progress. Sickening to think that there is people like that who take tickets of the real fans.

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Originally Posted by Jicked

The only downside of all this is that the Rovers-Bohs game in Tallaght at the start of August will now have to be postponed, a pity considering how well we're doing and how all over the place Bohs seem. Not the worst problem to have going to bed tonight though of course.

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You're bring The Old Lady to Tallaght for god sake, surely you can get over not having to play the Gypsies for a while! :)

Seriously thought, well done and hopefully Rovers can do something in Tallaght to make Juve jittery at home, maybe get their supporters on their backs in the second leg. The ball is round and all that...

I just suggested the Aviva as an aption.

When we were drawn to play PSG a few years ago most wanted the game played elsewhere and our club decided to to everythinng to keep it at the Brandywell.

Great memories from both the home and away games for all that made it and the scramble for tickets is still talked about on our forum.

Hopefully Rvrs can get round the red tape and have the extra stands put in for this game.

Brilliant result Rovers and enjoy both games.

Edit: When I say most,I meant barstoolers :p not Derry fans.

would the RDS be an option? the more money rovers can make from a bigger crowd i say good luck to them.