You can be from where ever you want to be, you can say you live in hogwarts for all i care :) Galway/swords your choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalwayRed
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You can be from where ever you want to be, you can say you live in hogwarts for all i care :) Galway/swords your choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalwayRed
You are going on as if Fingal are doomed, this is far from the case. 2010 and 2011 are sorted we will wait and see what 2012 brings . At worse it could be a lot less finance available which would mean the same as what other clubs have done and cut back,it would be common sense but there will still be a Sporting Fingal there to support. We post a loss for the year and some think its the end of us :) others have made far worse losses and are still around.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Look at Derry when their main sponsor pulled out, they made changes and are still around. Look at shells who had some dodgey dealings whilst spending crazy money whilst trying to get into the champions league group stages, they are still around. If and i say a big IF, Fingal has some money worries down the road then im sure it will be dealt with accordingly. Just to clarify so that i dont have to post it again, be NO means do i take for granted that Sporting will be at the level they are now for a number of years and paying the wages some claim they are paying
What makes you think he is going to lose anything ?Quote:
Originally Posted by higgins
It could be worse we could have had that Fingalton chap instead ;)
I live in Fingal, im not Dub.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Emm - they actually aren't around anymore - did you miss the 200 odd page thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
Arnt they?They seem to have had a decent crowd at their matches so far this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
I know about what happend up there last year or what was reported anyway.
Ah now do you not know that you shouldn't mention crowds in a Sporting Fingal thread? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
Ok sorry boss, i should have been more careful . Let me know the next time i post the word crowds again. Dam, ive just done it again, sorry it just happpens from time to time.
Have you seen that Colin Firth movie thats been in the cinemas lately?
Well seeing as I was born and raised in Swords I think I'll choose to be a dub:).Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
Good choice, well done.
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Originally Posted by The Lep
Oh for the love of Jesus.
Were you born after January 1st 1994? Fingal has only existed as an administrative county since then.
Ah Bonnie come on. The thread is already starting to decend into the usual. Not worth adding to it. :)
Nope, i was born a good few years before that :) North County Dublin was called Fingal many many years before North County Dublin reached into it. Have a look at a really old map of Dublin.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Fair play to you for declaring your love to Jesus but what has that got to do with me living in Fingal and not being a Dub ?
Why is this thread now about whether Fingal is a county or not ?
The thread was about Fingal maybe being the next club to fold, a bit OTT of a thread title but never mind. Lets stick to the topic with something NEW cos there is no point going off topic just because you havent anything new to say.
To go back on topic. Is Sporting Fingal the next club to go belly up ? No i dont think so,even IF we lose Gannon as a backer Sporting would still be around in some shape or form, maybe not as we are now but still around all the same. We are ok this year and next but havent a clue what 2012 brings so i'll enjoy the Premier Division experience until our points say otherwise at the end of the season.
If as some of you wish that we do go belly up then so be it, there isnt a lot i can do about it at the moment and id be gutted like a Sligo fan at a cup final if it happens but until it does Sporting Fingal is in the league and those that wish that we arnt will just have to deal with it for a bit longer :) Others teams before us have gone through some hardship and survived in some shape of form so im sure we will as well if it comes to it although like most of you i want the league to run smoothly without any of the goings on of last season and the only talking points is the about the wins and losses on the field of play along with the usual banter with fans of other teams.
Lets make this the season of love and good will in the Airtricity league and hug a fan of the away team when you can and do away with the hate for one season at least :)
NAMA is an FF creation, I doubt the developers will lose much. The most recent developer to lose "everything", went off to slum it in his Marbella villa. But they'll be claiming the poor mouth, so I doubt they'll be throwing money at such things football clubs due to the optics.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
But to be honest, that's not really the point. If a benefactor simply gets bored they could pull the money. Is there protection for the club, and the league, no matter the reason if a benefactor stops paying?
On what basis?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
Also, Derry City FC went into liquidation and were restarted by a different bunch of people (as is my understanding). If Sporting Fingal go into liquidation, who outside of Gannon and Buckley is going to restart it?
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Originally Posted by The Lep
Has Gerry Gannon paid up his 750k X 2 (or whatever the exact amounts are for this season and next?) in advance?
If he hasn't - but he decides to walk away any time soon - then you are fecked.
There is way you can assert that you are sorted for 2010 & 2011.
Ok I'll go on topic now. If Gannon does stick to his word and invest the money for the next 2 years then this is the window they have to build up a fanbase and progress in the league. if Fingal can maintain a crowd similar to what they had against Sligo then its a very good start but to be honest its a very tough ask. I have witnessed the efforts Fingal have made to attract new fans and to be fair to them its excellent. However thats mainly down to the money Fingal have and the fact they are a full time set-up. For example Shels wouldn't be able to send players around to schools to promote the club and such as the players all have second jobs. If Gannon decides to pull out in two years time then Fingals finances are going to be cut drastically which will probably result in relegation and part time football. From their its tough to see how the club can continue on. Time will tell though.
Thats true for all clubs but in our case we have some decent sponsorship across the board . If and if our main benefactor pulls out for whatever reason we may have to do some major changes then and only then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
dont Sporting Fingal plan to move to a new pupose built stadium in lusk or somewhere? just wondering if is there a timeline for this and if any of the fingal fans know who will fund it etc
Good post and i agree to most of it. Only part i disagree with is the last bit where you say it would be tough to see the club continue, if it does go badly then like you say cuts would be made and we could fall back down to where we was going to start at in the beginning in the A championship and with all the hard work gone in to Sporting Fingal as part of the Sport in Fingal project then im sure the powers that be will do all they can to stop all that hard work going to waste.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalwayRed
You mention maintaining a crowd, yes id be happy if we could improve on our first home game attendance this year but to make it really work we would need crowds the same as what Foras has got or at least 2000 plus each home game which im sure other clubs would agree for them as well. Its best to take one year at a time and with Fingal in the Premier for the first time and europe then its an exciting time for the Fingal fans and im going to enjoy the football while it last as nobody knows what the future holds only time will tell.
3 points tonight will do me for a start so Cmon Fingal :)
Yes,Quote:
Originally Posted by redbuli
The rest, i dont know.
It was meant as a general point, and the fact that the FAI continues to leave a situation where "major changes" happen mid season, and inevitably mean players and staff not being paid.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
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Originally Posted by The Lep
http://www.fingalcoco.ie/Planning/Pl...otballAcademy/
AFAIK this project is seriously stalled. I would guess it will be at least 3-4 years before Fingal CoCo can find the money to finance this- even assuming some kind of economic upturn in the next 18 months.
Poor Gerry No Bobs has practically whacked everything including the kitchen sink into his wife's name to keep a roof over his head
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Meet the Developers' Wives! Thanks to their husbands putting assets in their names, all these women now own property fortunes…
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MARGARET GANNON Wife of Gerry Gannon THE 60-year-old housewife is a former hairdresser.
On January 16 the Gannon Homes boss, whose loans are to be taken over by Nama, gave her Hatley Manor, a 19th century pile on banks of the Shannon. That same day, she also became the owner of a property at Summercove, Kinsale, and apartments at Malahide Marina.
Since last spring, she has acquired a vast portfolio including land banks at Dublin Airport, land at Clontarf Golf Club and the midlands, an imposing house at Eglin Road in Ballsbridge, a e3m house in the K Club, apartments in Malahide and the foreshore at Lough Glynn. All bar one are mortgage-free. She and her husband are friendly with Charlie and Noreen McCreevy.
http://findarticles.com/p/news-artic.../ai_n52664375/
Will he be expecting the taxpayer to fund an exclusive loss-making football club from Santry?Quote:
Half of the K Club put up for sale for €60m
THE K Club is up for sale -- well half of it anyway.
Cash-strapped property developer Gerry Gannon is selling his 49pc share in the world famous hotel, golf and country club at a price of €60m.
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Mr Gannon explained his reason for selling as: "I cannot expect the taxpayer to fund an exclusive loss-making club in Co Kildare."
http://www.herald.ie/national-news/h...m-2147679.html
Go and ask him.
Dear oh dear, that doesn't make very good reading for Fingal, should Bray start planning for another season in the Premier?
:) :) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sixesandsevens
Was out at Morton stadium last night for the first time in many years (I think since Bohs famous 6-4 win over shams :D) and thought it a good stadium. Admittitedly it was dry last night and I would not fancy 90+ minutes there in the rain but SF are hardly the only club in that position.Quote:
Originally Posted by bad mongo
My point is that as long as they have access to Morton there is no immediate need for a new ground - yes, ideally they would move to a new stadium ASAP but Morton is decent enough for a club still in its infancy.
...... or maybe its just after my last two visits there I have grown to like the place :o
Only way we are likely to get back in!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by sixesandsevens
Jesus not even pass the first round of games and the 'bad' headlines are potentially surfacing
No bad headlines just speculation on FOOT.IE ! Actually the "tales of doom" on here predicting which club(s) would fold began long before now, in fact in some cases they began before last season endedQuote:
Originally Posted by pateen
Wouldn't get too upset at the prophets of doom here - last season Bohs were bankrupt/relegated/ playing this season in the phoneix park !
That would have been nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
Could have combined away games with a nice visit to the zoo! :D
could always go to SDCC Stadium to see the animals out there too...! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SupaJon
While Fingal are not mentioned here, there may be an impact on them: NAMA set to halt developers' spend on sponsorship
True, could be a double whammy for Fungus next season as Anlgo themselves are one of their main sponsors, and Gannon one of their main backers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Very hard to see how their full-time set-up and wage structure can be maintained next year given the poor attendences at home games.
Mario
You sure ? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mario
Great Bump to an old thread with nothing to add to it :)
Michael Smurfit and developer Gerry Gannon are facing huge financial difficulties at the K Club. They are seeking to defer repaying bank loans, amid crippling losses that are expected to continue at least until next summer.
The complex, which includes a hotel, country club and two courses, has racked up a loss of €8.1m. The company behind the club, Bishopscourt Investments, is hoping to defer repaying a bank loan of €55m.
http://www.independent.ie/business/i...s-2301126.html
How dependant is Sporting Fingal on Gerry Gannon. I am an admirer of their attempt to bring senior football to north county Dublin and have been impressed with organisation of the two matches at Morton Stadium I been to this year.
However, when I look at the small number of paying customers, I can't see how they survive.
If Gerry Gannon goes Fingal are finished as Fingal County Council are not going to pick up the tab.
It's at the start of the thread that he gave them E750k last year, and E500k the year before. By way of comparison, I think UCD's total budget for this season is about E300k.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse