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13/12/2007, 8:55 AM
Block G Raptor

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Originally Posted by rebelarmyexile

Why didnt you report this to the police at the time?

In my opinion a lot of the drug acceptance in this country is due to lack of responsibility by the people. On the several occassions i have been offered drugs in Dublin at night i instantly report it to the police and point out the person. If everyone had the same civic responsibility drug use would dwindle.

How much did you pay for that bullet-proof vest on e-bay?
13/12/2007, 9:23 AM
endabob1

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Originally Posted by rebelarmyexile

Why didnt you report this to the police at the time?

In my opinion a lot of the drug acceptance in this country is due to lack of responsibility by the people. On the several occassions i have been offered drugs in Dublin at night i instantly report it to the police and point out the person. If everyone had the same civic responsibility drug use would dwindle.

That's an interesting approach, do you feel the need to do the same for every law-breaking offence you might witness on a night out?
Drunk Driving?
Speeding? (the drvining too fast variety)
Drunk & Disorderly?
Under-Age Drinking?
13/12/2007, 11:35 AM
dahamsta

I looked at that site, couldn't be arsed signing up for it. If it does what is claimed, then it's illegal and it'll be shut down. However I'd guess that it doesn't do what people are claiming here; I'd imagine it's a forum where PEOPLE hook up and send each other drugs, which is more difficult to police. But if that's the case it wouldn't be "a site that ships drugs to people". That would be how the Star would explain it to it's moronic readership (and staff), but that wouldn't make it true.

adam
13/12/2007, 11:35 AM
MojoPin

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebelarmyexile

Why didnt you report this to the police at the time?

In my opinion a lot of the drug acceptance in this country is due to lack of responsibility by the people. On the several occassions i have been offered drugs in Dublin at night i instantly report it to the police and point out the person. If everyone had the same civic responsibility drug use would dwindle.

so if you were passed a jointy at a party or in the smokers of a pub by a college you call the cops on him?
13/12/2007, 3:13 PM
jebus

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Originally Posted by dahamsta

I looked at that site, couldn't be arsed signing up for it. If it does what is claimed, then it's illegal and it'll be shut down. However I'd guess that it doesn't do what people are claiming here; I'd imagine it's a forum where PEOPLE hook up and send each other drugs, which is more difficult to police. But if that's the case it wouldn't be "a site that ships drugs to people". That would be how the Star would explain it to it's moronic readership (and staff), but that wouldn't make it true.

adam

In fairness you haven't the first idea what they do so I wouldn't be jumping to your conclusions so fast, it would be like me being directed to this site, not bothering looking it up and saying that it's probably a place where they exchange e mail addresses, but don't actually post on forums. My friends order things like mushrooms and weed off of it and bar one time when it didn't get through customs they have never had a problem with it. Why it hasn't been shut down I don't know, but it is basically an online dealers
13/12/2007, 5:43 PM
Jerry The Saint

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Originally Posted by jebus

it would be like me being directed to this site, not bothering looking it up and saying that it's probably a place where they exchange e mail addresses, but don't actually post on forums.

I used to think it was an online shoe dealership...:(
13/12/2007, 5:51 PM
kingdom hoop

:D While I happened upon this site as I searched for a chiropodist.

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Originally Posted by dahamsta

However I'd guess that it doesn't do what people are claiming here...

Where's the love man? :)

It's definitely a proper operation, not a conduit for individuals to exchange. Weed is quasi-legal in Canada so that might explain something.

You can get an ounce of high-grade marijuana for �200 incl. P&P, when you're looking at �300 here, and maybe having to put your life in peril by going to Blanch. So 'tis very good value. And actually when you break it down to street prices it works out at about half price. Plus you're not really partaking in illegal activity** so there is a morality premium as well.

** I don't consider smoking etc at home as illegal. Funnily enough nor did a Garda who caught me on the street once; 'do it at home if you want son, just not on the street', he surprisingly said to me, before ruffling my hair and telling me to scamper. (true story, bar the hair ruffling, happened on Grafton St. :o)
13/12/2007, 9:46 PM
rebelarmyexile

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Originally Posted by kingdom hoop

That's an interesting topic, a bit like the other thread on the neighbour shooting the burglar. What is the extent of our civic duty and should we bulwark our society by <b>taking the law into our own hands<b> or being as tattle-taley as possible to abet the police force?

But, say, do you report to bouncers when (definitely not if!) someone is too drunk? What about breaking red lights? No, I'd imagine. I don't think it's really in human nature to interfere in another's business like that. Of course if it's a major problem for society then maybe we should start. Drugs are probably pretty suitable seeing as though so many people (certainly on Prime Time on Monday) claim they could get you coke within an hour. The idea doesn't sit easily with me though I must say. Clearly RebelArmyExile was the squealer in his class. :p

It is not taking the law into our own hands, it is merely reporting crime like any good citizen should do (serious crime) citing red lights and drunkeness is irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by MojoPin

so if you were passed a jointy at a party or in the smokers of a pub by a college you call the cops on him?

While i do not condone drug use of any kind, I see dealing (as i mentioned in a previous comment) so be disgusting and would rather just shoot them, cops are not hard enough on this animals. as you said above....i would make (and have done so) my opinions known on drug usage, and thankfully most my mates have no interest in hash/weed etc so it doesnt really come up.

drug use on my side would ruin my career (or if i associated with drug users and was made public) so i steer clear

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Originally Posted by Block G Raptor

How much did you pay for that bullet-proof vest on e-bay?

Got a bulk discount
13/12/2007, 9:59 PM
jebus

Are you tlking about all drug dealers here rebelarmy, say if I sold a bit of weed between myself, my friends and the odd friend of a friend, I'm a drug dealer, but do I deserve a bullet for it? Moreso than say a drunken tosspot wandering the streets at night roaring abuse at random strangers?
13/12/2007, 10:05 PM
kingdom hoop

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Originally Posted by rebelarmyexile

It is not taking the law into our own hands

Sorry yeah, not in the strictest sense of the phrase obviously. I don't think I really implied that though. I was more interested in how much we should help the police.

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it is merely reporting crime like any good citizen should do (serious crime) citing red lights and drunkeness is irrelevant.

It sounds good in theory, but actually doing it, creating such a culture of participatory citizenship, is a different kettle of fish. What exactly are you suggesting? That if I know of a pub where people are doing drugs then I should inform the police so that they can raid it?

By the by, you forgot to give the examples of where you were offered drugs and pointed the people out to the police. I believe you, I'd just like to hear about it though!
14/12/2007, 1:51 PM
inexile

the question to ask is if you saw someone with a gun or a knife in his/her hand would you notify the gardai? i personally believe if the answer is yes then if you saw anyone with drugs you should do the same as we have seen in the last few weeks how lethal these drugs can be, be that through overdose or dealers getting shot dead over debts, turf wars you name it then you should notify the gardai if you see someone with drugs
14/12/2007, 1:54 PM
jebus

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Originally Posted by inexile

the question to ask is if you saw someone with a gun or a knife in his/her hand would you notify the gardai? i personally believe if the answer is yes then if you saw anyone with drugs you should do the same as we have seen in the last few weeks how lethal these drugs can be, be that through overdose or dealers getting shot dead over debts, turf wars you name it then you should notify the gardai if you see someone with drugs

But why do you care if a dealer gets shot? One less scourge off the streets I would have thought? Plus what consititutes a dealer? And how have we only seen in the last few weeks how harmful drugs can be? Surely we knew before the death of an objectively pretty blonde that they could do a bit of damage? And is it your right to deny people the right to do said damage to their body if they so wish? A lot of questions in the drug debate I'm afraid

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