'Final Deal' Will it be as big as GFA?

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Originally Posted by patsh

I'm pretty sure that it can be taken for granted that posters know just how bad the IRA/UDA/UVF etc are, and all about their past deeds.

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That is not the case Pat. Dortie defends the IRA and thinks that their murders are different to those carried out by other paramilitary groups.

murder is murder wether its the paras uvf uda or scum fein/ira its murder and terrorism and they should be dealt with as terrorists no matter what side they are on.

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Originally Posted by Silvio

So I take it, if you're consistant in your arguement, that you woud have locked up Michael Collins during the Geurilla campaign of 1921 and thrown away the key then...

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different era called for different means also i dont remember collins killing innocent childeren or smuggling drugs :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Silvio

Do I smell a cop out in the air. I ask once again would you have locked up Michael Collins for orchestrating his killing campaign in ireland during 1921..?

A simple yes or no will suffice...;)

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no of course not as i said different era different means.
so i take it you support
scum feins/ira killing of innocent civilians over the years oh do you support their criminal activitys as well a simple yes or no will suffice :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Silvio

You're attempts at wriggling off this hook is amusing to observe...:D

For the record i can categorically state that I condemn the killing of all innocent civillians by the Provsional IRA, British State Forces and loyalist death squads.

A pity you aren't so clear in your own thinking...;)

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you really are a half wit arent you i told you straight up what i thought :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Silvio

I therefore take it that you accept my condemnation of the killing of innocent civillians...;)

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wholeheartly ;)

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Originally Posted by JohnB

That is not the case Pat. Dortie defends the IRA and thinks that their murders are different to those carried out by other paramilitary groups.

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Your actually correct. Loyalist paramilitaries directed (still do) a war against Catholics. The IRA directed a war against Crown Forces.

Although Ive never defended the killing of Innocent civilians.

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Originally Posted by dortie

Your actually correct. Loyalist paramilitaries directed (still do) a war against Catholics. The IRA directed a war against Crown Forces.

Although Ive never defended the killing of Innocent civilians.

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Both the IRA and their loyalist brothers and sisters have, and will, murder anyone if they think it will further their cause.

If, as you say, the IRA didn't want to kill shoppers and by standers, why did they repeatedly plant bombs in the middle of them? You'd think they would have learnt after the first atrocity.

And, if they only waged a war against the police and armed forces, how come fully one quarter of the IRA's victims were from the nationalist community?

And what about the murder of building contractors who were identified as targets by the warped logic of the extremist. Your own logic.

I could go on.

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Originally Posted by JohnB

If, as you say, the IRA didn't want to kill shoppers and by standers, why did they repeatedly plant bombs in the middle of them? You'd think they would have learnt after the first atrocity.

And, if they only waged a war against the police and armed forces, how come fully one quarter of the IRA's victims were from the nationalist community?

And what about the murder of building contractors who were identified as targets by the warped logic of the extremist. Your own logic.

I could go on.

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Anyone who studied the conflict will tell you that those particular bombings were intended as commercial. To inflict serious financial damage. If the Intention was to murder shoppers (Against all republican ideology) there would have been 10 times the casualties/deaths. Im simply trying to point out to you that 'I' believe those tragedys were not Intentional.
Again, I do not speak on behalf of the IRA, but everyone up here knows (from all their statements through the years) that contractors are seen by them as legitamate targets as they are supporting the British presence in Ireland by their work.