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Yep, too selfish.
Stokes can't score a hatrick.
Stokes first from a freekick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRaa-...layer_embedded
Second goal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtWxkWL7qU8&feature=player_embedded
assist from Anthony to Paddy McCourt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk2Fr5VOWTw&feature=player_embedded
Was up at the game last night and thought he had a fairly quiet enough first half hour. After that though he became much more involved. The posts above reflect the key moments, the dribble on the edge of the box and cut back was a lovely piece of skill. He had opportunities either side of his brace as well to get the hatrick but dwelled too long or took one to many touches. In the first half he had a great chance to toe poke home but tried to steer it on to his right foot and the defender blocked the chance. I was thinking to myself thats symptomatic of footballers these days with only one foot but then he lost another opportunity in the 2nd half when he appeared to be trying to move it on to his left - so wtf do I know.
Anyway, the partnership with Hooper is looking good - Two young lads, working hard for each other & the team and linking up well. That can only be good for the confidence and hopefully soemthing he can bring with him to the Irish setup.
Stokes did get booked again, disappointing as it was for dissent from what I could see. Thats 5 hes got now so far this season. Needs to cut it out.
Definitely want to see him get some game time in the up and coming friendly.
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Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
Wouldn't make a difference. Not good enough, he proved this when at Championship clubs. At least 5/6 others that would be ahead of him in Irish team. So what if he's scoring in the SPL, it's similar standard to League 2 in England, League 1 at best
there's still alot of negativity regarding stokesy - he's playing ans scoring as i have mentioned when he's at his best for celtic he is more effective than keane was last season but i'm not trying to compare the two overall - junior your right about the partnership with hooper - i don't really see why he shouldn't get a craic at international football in the near future if he keeps playing like this - but he needs to be played as an out & out striker -
Without being too mean spirited - we've been here before with Stokes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Royal rover
Not a million years ago he was touted as the new hope, but he's not delivered anywhere near that early promise at international level.
That said - if he keeps scoring, he deserves another look, on merit.
So what if he hasn't met some expectations, he was a talented youth at a top club, it's natural to have hope for his career. He's not even one of Celtic's best new players this season. He is not even their best striker, but he has stuck at the task at hand and has made progress with his game.
He has earned a call up to be one of 7 strikers in a friendly. That's not evidence of a second coming. It is hardly likely that he will get game time. But if he does, I have a hope that it works out well.
Are you for real?? Or just sour grapes about Stokes?? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
Maybe the current Hibs team is Div.3 level but Celtic (& even R*ngers) are still capable of the PL. As are most of the SPL if they had the millions the likes of Wigan and Blackpool (currently) have to roll about in. Even Hibs??
In fairness he appears to have a class of touch beyond most of our strikers, no matter how inconsistent or at what level.
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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Have you seen Stokes record in England? Even in the Championship he was sh!t scoring 1 goal in 25 games (Sheff Untd & Palace), yet he scores for fun in the SPL. Says it all really
You should have seen Conor Sammon when he played for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
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Originally Posted by John83
I did, he was cr@p, not much better for Derry, yet scores almost weekly in the SPL
I think Stokes is at best fourth in the line behind Keane, Doyle and Long. No way does he deserve to be above that three. Nonetheless, I hope Stokes continues to progress and improve.....we certainly need as many as possible of the young lads coming through. No doubt the guy has talent, his attitude has been in question many a time in the past and still remains to be seen if it has improved indefinitely.
wasnt he played out of position in nearly every game? Dont get me wrong, i think Stokes still has to prove himself to an extent but credit where it is due - he had a stormer yesterday and is something different to what our current striking options offer. And he's a natural goalscorer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
Well said Stu.
It was hugely encouraging to see those two goals against Hearts, regardless of what standard you reckon the SPL is at. I always like to see Irish players score from free-kicks, mainly because Lawrence is probably the only player that gets picked at International level who has any idea what he is doing when it comes to set pieces. Also, the determination to get up alongside Hooper for the second goal was impressive. Hooper was clean through and would have won a penalty in all fairness if Stokes hadn't followed up, but he bust a gut to get and reaped the sweet, sweet goalscoring rewards.
The 'assist' for the last goal, well... we've all done it at some point :)
In fairness Hunt is good at set pieces as well Serb.
for accuracy he is if86 - i think Serb was talking about direct free kicks on goal.
Stokes will feature tonight for Celtic in the league vs Aberdeen (Live on ESPN for those that have it). I doubt Sammon will feature for Wigan who are playing West Brom live on Sky Sports, though S Reid might be involved as seems to be back early from injury plus McCarthy for Wigan as well.
missed a penalty in the first half VS Aberdeen, just rifled in Celtic's third before being substituted for Daryl Murphy
Assist from Stokes for the first goal to Hooper.
Favour returned by Hooper to Stokes for the third, a lovely left foot strike into the corner from close in.
Both goals worth a view.
Slog of a game though, on a poor pitch. Paddy McCourt was a breath of fresh air when he came on.
I suppose that means he must have packed in the fags.
I didn't see either, but what a breath of fersh air to regularly read about two forwards who seem to play well together as a pair. I reckon I'll have to be telling my little fella sometime "back in my day son, there used to be such a thing as a strike partnership" and he'll look at me like I'm a looney.
They are linking up really well together, both very young and really seem to be enjoying playing together. Stokes' assist for Hoopers goal was a perfectly weighted one-two. He played another lovely through ball to Commons, from very deep, late in the 2nd half but the chance was wasted. it was another example of the high levels of work rate he is putting in as geysir has mentioned elsewhere.
Nice finish alright. It's hard to judge the SPL really, but hopefully he will get a chance over the next few games with Ireland so we can gauge how good he is right now for ourselves.
Here's the assist from Stokes for the first goal, 'marginally' overshadowed by some beautiful controlled footwork from Hooper.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUwa4XF96Xo&feature=player_embedded#
The goal looks more like shocking goal keeping than good finishing to me. It doesn't look like there's a whole lot of power in the left foot shot and it still beats the keeper at his near post. I'm more impressed with the assist. A nice delicate touch that's easier to get wrong than to get right. Himself and Hooper seem to have forged a good understanding, hopefully the goals keep coming.
In the keeper's defense Serb, he looks to be at full stretch, when the ball takes a hop and goes over him. Not world-class keeping but I think that slow motion replay makes the goalkeeper look poorer than he probably was.
After me stating that Stokes and Hooper were unquestionably the starting strike partnership, Lennon goes and drops him from the Rangers game at the weekend!! Seemed a bit harsh imo and I am not Samaras' biggest fan either but Lennon seems to like him and after a great show at Ibrox in January he obviously wants to give him a few more opportunities.
Stokes came on late in the game but didnt have chance to do much - though true to form he did get involved in an after match handbags session with Alan McGregor.
I wasn't surprised by Samaras' selection, ahead of Anthony. Samaras is the obvious horse for the course.
He understands the do or die nature of the fixture and embraces the mission wholeheartedly. Against Rangers he plays like a man possessed, he also has the skill and physique to be left up front as lone striker while Hooper dropped deep.
And he was not subbed, Anthony replaced Hooper when he came on late. Samaras clocked up some serious milage out there.
I think Stokes was unlucky that it was Hooper rather than Samaras who scored the goals - Lennon seemed to leave him on long after his legs had gone in the hope of getting the hat trick. Should be no doubt about who the first choice pairing is now.
Im not so sure. Lennon rates Hooper and Stokes as a pairing too, in fact its been his favoured choice. Samaras played the loan striker at Ibrox and was excellent. You're right geysir he's proven to do well in this fixture but all (certainly most voices I heard) among the crowd in the approach to the stadium were surprised by the change. We all thought it would be a 4-4-2 and therefore that it would be Stokes/Hooper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Anyway, tactically it worked great and proves that Lennon is not afraid to change things around be it formation or those within the formation - credit to him for that.
Substituted in the second half today, with Celtic 2-0 down, and went straight down the tunnel.
Was poor today, and his last act was to drive a free kick into a Motherwell wall, when Commons was surely a better option?
Stokes was poor in a poor team performance. On a brighter note, Darren Randolph was in goal for Motherwell and did very well.
Is Stokes going to be another Riordan at Celtic?
Doomsaying comes natural to you Owls.
Just because Glenmalure Pk was sold, the Hoops made homeless, Sheffield Wed sunk to div 3 or thereabouts, one too many injury time concessions and ref's bunged up to the eyeballs - all doesn't meant there is not the occasional silver lining, that a discarded player might make it back against the odds.
hehe great to have owls, too many glass half full guys on this site, that you need perspective from owlie :D He has years on us too so he has reason!!
Who is owlie?Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Its a play on old and owlsfan.owlie no offence intended.
:) Experience as a general concept comprises knowledge of or skill in or observation of some thing or some event gained through involvement in or exposure to that thing or event.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Who as a "discarded player" has made it back against the odds as a matter of interest? Very few I am afraid. Perhaps he might score a hat trick against Rangers tonight or perhaps he might sit most of the game out on the bench. The odds are on the latter but experience tells me, the former could happen as well. I saw the game against Motherwell as he was hopeless but then so was most of the Celtic team, on a dodgy pitch it has to be said.
Basically, a few goals in Scotland does not equal call up to the national side despite the calls of the knee jerkers. It would be great if Stokes could make it. History says otherwise.
Now back to studying the Division One table and if Owls win their next three games, they are within 3 points of the play offs (but history says otherwise).