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My opinion would be that the team that comes 2nd should always go up. Fair enough there is a long history of teams like rosegreen, nicholas, galbally etc of struggling in premier but one up devalues finishing the season out for most clubs. At the very least should be a play off between 2nd from bottom in the premier and team that comes 2nd in division 1Quote:
Originally Posted by West Hammer
Exactly !! Perfect solution , The 1st division is highly competitive and in my opinion it would be a disaster for a team to go through the whole season playing very tough games week in week out and to finish 2nd and get nothing for it. At the very least they should get a playoff as Balls suggested , so at least the team that finishes 2nd bottom in premier are not quiet safe and still have work to do to save their status in the premier and the team that just misses out on The 1st division title can still go for promotion . It would be an exciting addition to the TSDL fixture list.Quote:
Originally Posted by balls
what will happen is you will have the premier team that has spent all season being beaten and has more than likely not played for 2 months, playing the 2nd in Div 1 who as most Div 1 teams have said do not want to go up if not winners, You will have a game that no one wants to win!!!
Well thats the other side of the Coin . .Quote:
Originally Posted by West Hammer
Very well said. This viewpoint has probably mooted the rule change. While the 1st division is competitive I am aware of quite a few teams in it who are quite happy to stay there - they don't want to know about the Premier division. Probably not the right attitude to have but no team wants to be hammered each week no matter what the division. Fact is there are not 9 teams in the TSDL good enough for the Premier division. I think the rule change is a good one but doubt it will get two-thirds majority. Democracy dictates clubs in the second, third and fourth divisions could have the major say, many of whom probably couldn't care less as they are not affected. The rule change will be put as is - no amendment can be proposed on the night. It is either carried or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by West Hammer
Having been to many League AGM's I think it the Rule will be passed, the lower leagues will just go with what ever Lewis comes up with 9 times out of 10. It will be interesting to see if the Oscar Traynor mess is made much of on the night!!
how are Town paying for this? big gamble.Quote:
Originally Posted by cufc champions
if every 2nd gaa and rugby club up and down the country can afford to pay coaches 2 and 3 nights of the week, surely tipperary's biggest and most successfull soccer club can afford a top fitness coach for a few weeks pre season training. Dont see that as a big gamble complexman?Quote:
Originally Posted by complexman
GAA clubs are helped out with funding from central council, Soccer clubs end up giving over more money than they will ever get in fines and registration fee's. At last year's AGM the TSDL had over €250,000 in the Bank, I wonder how much that has increased by at this years AGM.
I agree with most of what you say but at the end of the day he is a fitness coach, I am just concerned that money is scarce and whatever is available could not should be spent elsewhere. I have no idea who this guy is, he sounds excellent. I just hope Town aren't biting off more than they can chew, thats allQuote:
Originally Posted by balls
The one up and 1 down was knocked on the head tonight , Tom lewis was in favour but it never came close to been voted in , As for the Promotion/Relegation playoff , it was suggested but deemed too expensve by Tom Lewis as it was extra game with 3 Officials and neutral ground needed so i suppose its as you were , 2 up and 2 down for the time been.
tommy was correct with his points the team that goes up second invariably struggles year in year out, but we are all dreamers who want to see our team play premier so the vote was never going to get past the smaller clubs i.e division 1-4 clubs who have the majority in their favour for these type of decisions. another vote to increase the 5 game rule to 7 games where clubs with a and b teams, a players could play 7 games before being ineligable for being able to play B team football was also voted out in similar fashion.
Very impressed with tsdl giving the €1000 to all clubs who have youth teams. credit where its due.
Again i think the 7 game rule was never gonna get past the smaller clubs because the 5 game rule has been a big problem for them for years , Where in the 1st few weeks of season a Weak "B" side in the 3rd or 4th divisions turn up on a Sunday with "A" players. Also must agree with the grants for youths teams... Its fair to say the T.S.D.L are almost paying for the teams to have youths sides , Nice gesture and as you said Balls , credit where credits due !!Quote:
Originally Posted by balls
tipperarys 'biggest' and 'most successful' soccer club????? alot of people at saint michaels will disagree with you on that statement balls considering saint michaels are the only tsdl club to win every honour at youth and junior level locally and nationally, have won more munster junior cups 6 compared to 3, and have contested 5 fai junior cup finals in their history compared to 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by balls
Clonmel Town have won more Leagues and Cups domestically so he is correct in calling them "Tipperarys" biggest and most successful clubQuote:
Originally Posted by republican
Haven't heard much about the agm but it appears to have gone off okay. I was correct on the rule change- couldn't see it carried. Was there any reference to the Oscar Traynor? At the end of the day there is little interest in this competition. The money regarding youth teams to be commended. Pity so few youth teams. Clonmel has a population of 17,000-18,000, yet just one youth team playing competitive soccer in the town. No youth team in Cashel. Pity the TSDL is again left to the same 5 people to run it. League Secretary there now for 35 years and no sign of a successor. Time now to put up the feet and watch the Euro championships.
Now that the forms are out has there been any official signings yet?
Couple from limerick gone to st michaels if rumours are true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tipp Top
Well Hotspur tell on?Quote:
Originally Posted by hotspur
Ah you'll hear soon enough,all I'll say is their 2 forwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tipp Top
Ah we hear that kind of rubbish every year,why come on our forum if you have nothing to say,if they were any good they would be playing with Pike or Boro anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by hotspur
very true tipp top, has any limerick lad really set the world alright over in Cooke? Connery maybe? Bennis a couple of years ago was a decent keeper..
agree with ye about the rumours...(mostly linked to players not associated with either the clubs mentioned i might add)Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtBilko
would trevor cosgrove not be considered a success???
I would imagine they are talking about Christy Doyle who is rumoured to be going to saints, good player but i cant see it happening to be honest.
Limerick football is so strong at the moment you would have to question anyone leaving, I am probably being very unfair but Trevor Cosgrave will probably always be remembered for being the one who missed the penalty in the FAI final in Turners Cross v Fairview
Celtic your right with him,was Ray Mc and Barry Ryan no good lads????.and Tipp Top,taught this was an open forum,never knew it belonged to YE,cop yourself on.keep guessing and ye'll surely get the other striker,although ye mightn't have to,he'll be signed and all shortly.Quote:
Originally Posted by celticlads
The forum doesn't belong to anyone but if your going to come on and say something just say it,were not going to hunt you down and murder you for being wrong,it's rumour season so add your twopence worth but don't be playing riddles,the idea of this time of the year is predictions and wondering who will go whereQuote:
Originally Posted by hotspur
Didn't I agree with Celtic lads who one of them was,and when the other is signed I will tell ye,it wouldn't be fair to mention him until he signs,which he will be doing shortly,so chill out man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tipp Top
St micks interested in a young man, goes by the name of christian tello. He wants out of barca after pep left and maybe st micks could be the club for him? Cesc fab another man said to be unhappy in catalunya. Would be a better signin than tello, imo.
Oh right! haQuote:
Originally Posted by footballfanatic
that penalty miss is well forgotten it wasnt a pen to win the game so cant be critical there a fantastic young man 1st player to trainin every night, also ray mac is loved in saint michaels would agree few others didnt hit it off. doyle is a quality player would walk on saints team but not too many others outside pike and boro would get in saints team imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tipp Top
Would certainly seem to make more sense,I also expect Clonmel Celtic to be the dominant force in Tipp next year so not a great time to be signing for Saint MichaelsQuote:
Originally Posted by hightackle
apologies for using the tipp forum,but as everybody knows,there are no junior forms out in limerick(and won't be until mid-july)....so i would take the comment with a pinch of salt.Quote:
Originally Posted by hightackle
now back to tipp matters;)