Norn Iron rubbish part 23452346526

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Originally Posted by The Fly

But.....for the IFA to have accepted FIFA's compromise offer, would have been absurd.

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Absolutely, 100%, correct.

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Originally Posted by MeathDrog

Problem? :o

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No..fine by me.

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

What's confusing you?:confused:

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If you have mixed heritage, you can belong to more than one country.

However this doesn't apply to the vast majority of people in the North. Mainly for historical, religious and cultural reasons.
As stated earlier, 95% of the political representatives fall into either being British or Irish which is what is also indicative of their respective constituencies and how they see themselves.....

If you fall into the other 5%, you must be :rolleyes: quite a maverick?

And though am probably in a minority of one in this thread, would have been happy to see the IFA select a 32 county team. Though guess one or two of the usual suspects on here would have not been too happy!!

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

And though am probably in a minority of one in this thread, would have been happy to see the IFA select a 32 county team. Though guess one or two of the usual suspects on here would have not been too happy!!

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I'm just glad that the IFA Turkeys didn't vote for Christmas...somewhat surprised too.:D

They could have taken over the FAI with our blessing though.
And until Paris blew up, they'd given us precious little to be proud of, off the field.

Not the IFA seem any better. From what my spies tell me, they're even worse??

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

If you have mixed heritage, you can belong to more than one country.

However this doesn't apply to the vast majority of people in the North. Mainly for historical, religious and cultural reasons.
As stated earlier, 95% of the political representatives fall into either being British or Irish which is what is also indicative of their respective constituencies and how they see themselves.....

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Aye...and those 95% of political representatives have sorted it, right enough.:rolleyes:

They say you get what you vote for...any wonder many don't vote.

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

They could have taken over the FAI with our blessing though.
And until Paris blew up, they'd given us precious little to be proud of, off the field.

Not the IFA seem any better. From what my spies tell me, they're even worse??

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A bit of a shambols AB...but I've hope our new CEO has a bit of savvy.

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

If you have mixed heritage, you can belong to more than one country.

However this doesn't apply to the vast majority of people in the North. Mainly for historical, religious and cultural reasons.
As stated earlier, 95% of the political representatives fall into either being British or Irish which is what is also indicative of their respective constituencies and how they see themselves.....

If you fall into the other 5%, you must be :rolleyes: quite a maverick?

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I'll quote you the relevant section of the Good Friday Agreement:

The participants endorse the commitment made by the British and Irish Governments that, in a new British-Irish Agreement replacing the Anglo-Irish Agreement, they will:

vi) recognise the birthright of all the people of Northern Ireland to
identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both, as they
may so choose, and accordingly confirm that their right to hold both
British and Irish citizenship is accepted by both Governments and would
not be affected by any future change in the status of Northern Ireland."

Well this thread shows you can't change history quickly, but we're prepared to wait. ;)
All good things and that.

And if they can do it in Bosnia....though Srpska isn't playing ball.

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Originally Posted by Acornvilla

not catholic!? stab the b@sterd!!! :rolleyes:

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ni ceapaim

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Originally Posted by The Fly

I'll quote you the relevant section of the Good Friday Agreement:

The participants endorse the commitment made by the British and Irish Governments that, in a new British-Irish Agreement replacing the Anglo-Irish Agreement, they will:

vi) recognise the birthright of all the people of Northern Ireland to
identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both, as they
may so choose, and accordingly confirm that their right to hold both
British and Irish citizenship is accepted by both Governments and would
not be affected by any future change in the status of Northern Ireland."

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Aye, but everyone knows that was the ultimate fudge. An agreement to disagree!
;)

But accept the text as written. Though have never met anyone of either side in the North who'd say they were both, 'in the flesh'. Though if they really want to be so confused, more fool them, unless their heritage is of course mixed.


Actually reckon more Nats would call themselves 'Northern Irish', away from the old hotspots these days. Though they wouldn't exactly :rolleyes: appreciate the flag or anthem.
But there are worse alternatives. Though to be fair not all the Prods. would accept those now either.

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Well this thread shows you can't change history quickly, but we're prepared to wait. ;)
All good things and that.

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Respect for difference might be a good start for change, don't you think?

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Aye, but everyone knows that was the ultimate fudge. An agreement to disagree!
;)
But accept the text as written.

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As ratified by the electorate in both jurisdictions on the island,:)

It's a start.

But if you want to call yourselves 'Irish', you'll have to be more similar! ;)

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

As ratified by the electorate in both jurisdictions on the island,:)

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And I've told you why. Not that it's the worst reason. Would have voted in favour at the time, though not on reflection now.

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

It's a start.
But if you want to call yourselves 'Irish', you'll have to be more similar! ;)

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You'll not be (BNP esque) dictating to me how I express my Irishness...best you get over yourself on that.

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Would have voted in favour at the time, though not on reflection now.

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Shall we have another vote?:)

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

It's a start.

But if you want to call yourselves 'Irish', you'll have to be more similar! ;)

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Similar to what, may I ask?

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Would have voted in favour at the time, though not on reflection now.

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Apologies for going off-topic admin but, to the above - why? .

Haha, I know a couple of old guys here in Canada (family friends). Both raised in Ireland, one a Protestant Unionist from the North, one a Catholic from the Republic.

Best friends. Those who leave Ireland realize the divisions are ridiculously superficial once they go to a place like Canada or the U.S. where the cultural makeup is amazingly diverse.

Working together we can achieve so much more than we can apart- okay we may lose a bit of our old identity, an identity based on differences rather than common ground- but we will create a new identity as one Irish team, stronger, more competitive, and most importantly, united.