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Very good timing. There's 9 games between now and the new year. Any new manager coming in will give the keepers game time over the friendlies. Kelleher will hopefully be going into that March window with double digit games played for Liverpool between now and then.Quote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
I mean I get why he's behind Bazunu now as he's not playing week in week out unlike Bazunu but ultimately if Kelleher is starting every game for Liverpool then he may be seen as the better option.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Kelleher out for six weeks with a knock he picked up in training, is the news I'm expecting to hear any day now.
Stop It ! ! !Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
My cardiologist is very unhappy with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
If he is starting every week for Liverpool then he would be a better option - no questions asked - a PL player over a Championship one.Quote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
It doesn't always work like that though - if it did then Rory Delap and Damien Delaney would have a lot more caps than they do.
Baz was our best player last time out and has saved us from a few hammerings in the last couple of years. Just getting a run of games because Alisson is injured and he's Liverpool's next best option doesn't by itself warrant him getting the jersey. He needs to be good when he gets his chance.
If Kelleher doesn't play well he won't be in the Liverpool goal for long - Adrian will replace him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Ideal timing for him in multiple ways. Hope he takes it. Bazunu has been great for Ireland but he's still developing while playing. If Kelleher can show everyone why watching Allison all these years was as good or better for his development by playing well in the EPL...then he's clearly the better option for Ireland and may have a few more bidders in the next window.
Wouldn't that depend on how many he's letting in if he is playing??Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant
If Kelleher plays the next few weeks and performs well you'd hope that could lead to move in January. Great timing for him, needs to take his chance now
No way he moves in Jan. This is the reason liverpool didn't let him goQuote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
He cant stay forever, needs to strike while the iron is hot.... the flip side is if he has a disaster in the next few weeks he could find himself struggling to find any clubQuote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
I don't think liverpool will want to head into second half of the season without a reliable back up keeper which Adrian certainly isn't and the younger liverpool keepers aren't going to be trusted yet. Hopefully he gets 10 games between now and early Jan. What an opportunityQuote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Let's hope he is reliable for them
Can't see him going anywhere before next summer at the earliest. Even then there's no guarantee, but this opportunity if it comes and he does well, might finally kick start things for him.
This is a great chance for him. And it's a handy enough few games to begin with.
Watching Joe Hart being unconvincing at Celtic recently and given the rumours from a while back I think Celtic would be a great move for both parties. I think he could be their keeper for a decade if he fulfills his potential.
Write-up in The Athletic today with some stats:
https://archive.ph/DYBm4
Celtic won't pay what Liverpool are looking for. Unless it's a loan deal it'll never happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Alisson will be out for two weeks according to Klopp. Kelleher should get the three PL games (Fulham, Sheffield United, and Palace) in-between their last two Europa games. Reckon Alisson will be back in time for the derby with United.
Kinda of a shame the games he’s getting,was hoping he’d get to play against the likes of Arsenal and United to really test him,but it’s good he’s getting a decent stretch nonetheless…..
And they have Newcastle a week after playing Arsenal. Something's better than nothing at least. The joys of being a back up keeper.
Pity the rumours linking him to Brighten didn't happen as the new young keeper they bought is getting plenty of game time. Has started 6 of their 13 PL games.
Very tidy and confident performance tonight. Three good saves
Yep - three good saves. Calm throughout and good distribution for the most part.
These are the type of performances that cause the huge divide and debate that exists. When you watch him on a night like tonight - he looks so good - he looks like an obvious first choice. And the fact he’s able to have those performances, there was a quote in the athletic piece: “Kelleher’s greatest strength in previous seasons has been coming in cold and filling in for Alisson.” And that ability to seemingly come in cold and play really well gives the belief that he can do it for Ireland.
Equally Bazunu on his better days looks like a future star - and then you see him struggling at Southampton and then it’s natural to have doubts.
I suspect it’s a debate that’ll continue to rage for the next 8 years, as they both continue to progress
The debate has indeed been Bazunu/ Kelleher centered but I wouldn’t rule out Travers. Thought he looked good and made a couple of top saves against NZ, and hopefully gets another loan move. He has shown he is a more than competent Championship standard goalkeeper and will continue to improve with game time.
Wonder, of the new manager names mentioned, if they would favour Travers ahead of Bazunu/ Kelleher. Travers is perhaps more suited to a conservative style of play, has a more physical presence, and arguably is equal to/ if not a better shot stopper than Bazunu/ Kelleher? Doubtful any of suggested managerial names will be encouraging the goalkeeper to put their foot on the ball/ play as a sweeper – something Bazunu/ Kelleher are more capable of doing than Travers. Feels like Travers is best suited to a compact, structured, physical, direct style of play which seems the path we might be going.
Might be unpopular but he wasn't tested last night at all. They hadn't a shot on target until near the 70th minute and the few saves he made were from weak shots, 1 or 2 straight at him and that any keeper would have made. Also, as said above, his distribution was good for the most part, as there were a few dodgy moments were he tried to play it out and either over hit it and it went out for a throw or passed it straight to a LASK player. Good to see him getting some game time but not much to take from that game last night unfortunately.
I'd be surprised if Travers is ever really in the conversation barring serious injury to the other two. Great shot-stopper but there's serious flaws in his all round game. There's a reason he's the third choice keeper at Bournemouth. He's really good by Championship standards and in other positions or other eras that would have maybe been enough, but he's a distant third in this era I think.
I only saw the first half and it was a mad watch, both teams intent on attacking at every opportunity. LASK’s CB even rouletted the ball past a pressing Liverpool attacker at one stage early on. While Kelleher had little to do he still could have conceded (with no fault attached) at least 2 because the Austrians absolutely wasted 3-4 breaks when they got inside the right full back but failed to square the ball to a waiting striker. For some reason Liverpool really left themselves open to this type of counter attack. The result was a foregone conclusion at HT so I switched off.Quote:
Originally Posted by LurcherLover
Well (maybe very predictably) I disagree. He was quick and decisive to come out and smother the first chance, and showed very sharp reactions for the third save.
Twitter quoting Klopp yesterday on CK being capable of being no. 1:
"Yeah. No doubt. We see him everyday in training. Maybe we don't mention his name often enough but John Achterberg told me since day one, this will be our home grown boy, who will make it'."
I wish I hadn't switched off now. I assumed he had little to do in the second half.
I only watched the second half - it sounded like how you described the first in terms of Liverpool being open, except that Linz had a couple of decent chances. I'd agree with third policeman - made a couple of decent saves, especially rushing out to the feet of one player. The kind of saves you'd probably expect a top keeper to make - but he made them all the same.
Was awful gor the new zealand goalQuote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
I'm pretty sure that Kelleher made the first save around 65/70 mins into the game and the saves or rushing to the feet of the one player was something you'd expect of any keeper, nevermind a top keeper. He was untested last night. Just to be clear, I think Kelleher is a fantastic keeper and wouldn't have an issue with him as Irelands no.1 keeper but just there is nothing to take from last night's game.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Fulham goal seemed to go through him there, albeit from very close range. Probably not a huge amount he could have done.
Looks like a could have & probably should have saved alright. Was close to him.
No such excuse for the second one. Just straight up poor that time.
Doesn’t fill me with confidence when I watch him,some awful defending in front of him but he just doesn’t make saves that Allison does….
very lucky with the offside for the 3rd. very weak hand away
I wonder is his confidence shook with the way things are going for him today ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jd2793
I don't exactly foresee an orderly queue forming for his services in January based on today's evidence. The last time he played a league game he was very poor as well. Maybe Liverpool might now finally send him out on the loan he should have gone on about four years ago.