Ive never made a mistake in 25 years of Professional football and Kelleher has only played 24 club games more than me!Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
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Ive never made a mistake in 25 years of Professional football and Kelleher has only played 24 club games more than me!Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
The way he's going he'll retire with four howlers so, maybe three, at his rate of games. Absolute nonsense post.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
In other news I've decided to retire from the world of heavyweight boxing myself. Undefeated.
the miss reminded me of something at the time but I couldn’t remember what. Now it’s come back to me. Hourihane in Slovakia, almost certainly to win the tie. 80% of the goal to hit, but no, hit it straight at the defender. Toulouse guy’s was worse but similar I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
my god, now he's better than Allison?
I'm amused that people still take my post seriously enough to respond to.
(While acknowledging I haven't fully gotten the hang of not rising to his posts either)
I was gonna say something similar but....I'm weak stu.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Been a few decades now. Relentless.
You obviously didn't read my post either. I, a moderator, have no opinion on your allegence to any club team, but I do have an opinion on you stirring **** by accusing half the forum of ulterior motives in their discussion. Cut it out. Address what people actually post, or don't post at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bungle
I’m not stirring ****. I’m just giving my opinion that a large section of our fan base may be Irish fans first but have club allegiances that impact their views on players.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
I come on here to read the many good posts from some great posters. I couldn’t give a **** about your view as a moderator. A man I don’t know or will never know. Forums are a place for discussion and if you don’t like what I said, fair enough, but don’t be a knobhead about it either.
There's something so tragic about an Irish football fan thinking that other Irish football fan's perceived bias towards a certain player could only come down to being influenced by rivalry between two clubs in England.
Christ on a Vespa.
There are Liverpool fans on here who think Kelleher is great because Klopp has told them so. That's about the strength of it. Everyone else just wants the lad to play football and it has zero to do with their support for any team, English or otherwise.
It’s so very… Irish?Quote:
Originally Posted by ontheotherhand
Not exactly "the strength of it." As an LFC fan, I too would rather he moved on to get more playing time, but it's a bit glib to say that he's only rated because Klopp told us he's good. My argument is with those who take every opportunity to say he isn't any good and should be behind Travers in the pecking order.Quote:
Originally Posted by ontheotherhand
Maybe slightly exaggerated for effect but Klopp's praise has been consistently put forward as evidence of Kelleher's talent. Managers back their players. Well most managers outside of Joey Barton and Trap.Quote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
That said, nobody should be saying he isn't any good. He's shown enough glimpses of real ability and also a few flaws. His injury record is odd for a keeper who doesn't play much as well. This should have been the season he broke through though. Bazunus had his struggles. An ambitious player would have forced a move, taken the Irish #1 jersey and proved the doubters wrong.
Hopefully we aren't still in this circular debate next season. Maybe the new Irish manager will make a change and Kelleher will put himself in the shop window playing for Ireland.
This is a good post. I'd probably be one of the most critical of Kelleher on here and I never said hes not any good, but I have said we dont know if hes good!Quote:
Originally Posted by ontheotherhand
Its obvious hes good with ball at his feet and he can make some good saves so he has talent, but when I say we dont know if hes good I mean, as Ive said before, we dont know if hes good over the course of the ups and downs of a full season of football. Theres more to being a keeper than just making a save.
Bazunu was getting some stick at start of season, to the point were his manager had to slap down some fans at meeting to say that Bazunu wasnt their problem. He has shown that he has a good strong mindset to come though that and things have been better lately, not perfect but the lad is still so young that all these experiences will only make him better.
Kelleher is 25 next month and has never had to deal with adversity, never had to deal with a dip in form by him or his defenders and then finding a way through it. Right now hes going the Kevin Long route of having a career in football without ever having to play football much. Fair play its a great job, but as Ireland fans we want more from him than that. Id love a genuine goalkeeper competition between 2 or 3 of our keepers playing great stuff every week and there being a stupidly hard decision to be made by the Ireland manager of who plays.
Saw highlights of the win over Bournemouth - made two very decent saves (including one to stop a worldie that he always seems to face) and looked lost under two corners (admittedly in driving wind and rain)
He made the Carabao Cup team of the round 11 on their twitter feed, they credit the Who Scored ratings system for their selections.
Yeah - thought there were three crosses where he struggled, when watching live (in Portuguese). Only realised when watching the highlights later that it was gale force winds carrying the ball, which is fairly mitigating circumstances. In context, the winds were such that Liverpool's plane was unable to take off that night and they ended up having to get a coach arriving at something like 6am.Quote:
Originally Posted by samhaydenjr
Typical kelleher he couldn't even fly the plane in a bit of windQuote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
In-fairness he does have a bit of time on his hands to become a pilotQuote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
Surely you mean co-pilot?;)
Bench Pilot !Quote:
Originally Posted by Eminence Grise
Passenger...
If hes anything he'd be the mature student who is still stuck repeating 1st year in Flight school for the 5th time.
This is becoming very tiresome. Might be a bit of an irrelevant observation, but he actually played quite well.
They are jokes dude, lighten up. Not everything is an attack on your beloved LiverpoolQuote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
I just saw the highlights on TNT's website. Liverpool Twitter wasn't happy with him last night but I'm not sure why. First goal was all about bad defending and a critical deflection, second was unstoppable - super hard low finish imho - and the third was a dangerous low cross that took a deflection and he pushed it wide of the goal only for a guy to finish from a tightish angle. I think a goalkeeper has to go for those balls (corridor of uncertainty as they say), though maybe his defender would have dealt with it better. Again, a slight deflection meant he needed to make an instant decision.
Kelleher needs to be playing week in week out to see if he can make it as a goalkeeper ~ Either in the Championship or in the very unlikely event that a manager would take such a gamble on such an in-experienced goalkeeper in the Premier League.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
One of these days / months, Kelleher is going to have to do what ever it takes to try to get to play, week in week out ~ Until that happens no one knows what level he is capable of playing at.
Yeah, he wasn't at fault for any of the goals last night but seems to be a consensus opinion he is in "poorer form this season" from skimming the Liverpool fans forum - hence the criticism? I suppose from our perspective it is good that he has gotten match time recently if he needs to be called upon.
He was certainly at fault for the 3rd goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
Third goal he was all over the place. Positioning for the initial shot was dodgy, then left the entire far side of his goal exposed for the finish. Liverpool forums were scathing of him. Seen a few hoping that Allison doesn't get an injury. They seem to be losing faith in Kelleher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
He hasn't played enough to know what he is capable of.Quote:
Originally Posted by weldoninhio
Maybe Kelleher can do better for the third. But look at the actions of the defensive line. First cross field pass could have been stopped, the ball across the box is stoppable if the RB faces up and doesn't turn his back - which results in the deflection, neither of the 2 CBs pick up the Toulouse striker - if Kelleher doesn't get a touch on the deflection he has a tap in, nobody in the Liverpool defence had a clue the scorer of the goal was arriving in the box. Defensive shambles all over.
I don't think he covered himself in glory at all really. He was beaten five times all in, with two ruled out. I really don't like the way he closes down a player too, makes his body really small rather than spread himself.
I thought he was poor enough if not directly responsible for the goals - and you are right about closing down an incoming attacker - it is one thing that Bazunu does do better than Kelleher.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
While not being directly responsible for any goals recently, he’s really not looked great. Not sure what’s going on but he just hasn’t made the saves he’s capable of. He’s still excellent with his feet and his handling is excellent but in the past when there was a one on one, I’d have far more faith it wouldn’t be a goal
Confidence is massive for goalkeepers - and you get the impression that something is not right with him at the moment (probably that he is playing so few games)
Maybe he sees every game as being his chance to put himself in the shop window and nerves are definitely playing a part. It's strangely like Nunez. he's fine when he doesn't have time and doesn't have to make a decision and its pure instinct. Kelleher is equally confident with his handling, distribution and some good reaction saves. The problem seems to be when he has a decision to make where a striker is on goal. He seems to hesitate, almost freeze, and ends up offering too big or too obvious a target.
Looks like Allison has picked up an injury that will sideline him for a while according to Klopp,Kelleher will get extended minutes in the team in one of the busiest periods of the season now …..
This is the chance he's been waiting for, he better take it with both hands. Also good timing with Ireland changing manager, if he can get regular game time in the premier league it might edge him ahead of Bazunu in the manager's eyes.
hard to believe this is considered a controversial opinion on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by CSAD