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Fully agree with you there. Have seen Pa Quinn taken off several times this season when playing well. He was doing fine last Sunday. The same has happened with Padraic Fogarty - he never plays a full game. Always a certainty to be taken off if he starts. Anyway its over and done with now.Quote:
Originally Posted by bronx
I would go as far to say that not starting foggy cost Saints the Fai,that is just my opinion although i know it was shared by several others at the game,he scored 2 against Pike in the Munster semi,he is a big game player and a major handful,Cremins always looks to be negative first but once you have reached a final take the shackles off,Saints had the better team but never went and tried to win the gameQuote:
Originally Posted by nononsense
pa quinn should have been left up front,the substitution should have been bring on jossi guerin instead of thomas fahey who never got going in 2nd half and drop richie ryan back midfield. if this had been done at 1-1 saints could have nicked it. buts its always what ifs etc after a defeat. foggy should have started too , top class player. pity davey ryan is retired for saints he would have won it for saints in my opinion if on the field trevor cosgrave played well but is not a major threat going forward just felt saints were lacking that on the day
The better team win on the day,just like the better team on the night won in the mj,moloney was causing all sorts of problems until he had to go off,injured,heard he got 2 plates in his hand,
Paul Breen has been a top player for years and the only reason he doesn't win player of year is because he may be a bit vocal in games to the refs... they will not vote for you if they don't like you???? Foggy is a winner but like all strikers you have to show them a bit of faith and play them, would not think he liked been a bit player...
just heard a rumour there that it looks like foggy is headin to Town next season, hot off the press from a peake villa source who is best of mates wit him, just throwin it out there, might not be true, the guy is normally spot on
Saints had the better team? i dont think so pike looked very organised and had a better shape to them, gary neville had nothing much to do in goals, cremins just won a munster junior for st micks.Quote:
Originally Posted by hooper74
ballboy i wouldnt take much notice of some of the above posts in relation to saints being stronger, saints never got going on the day a bit lik pike didnt in the mj. alot is just to try get the limerick boys reacting. pike were better team on the day but i think the teams are very evenly matched in terms of quality and 1 of the 2 will win fai again next year i think anyway.
The best team on the day won without question and vice versa in Jackman,however i do take on board the point about Foggy,no honest football man could look you in the face and say Connery is a better player,a truly baffling decision but its history now,i cannot see saints bounce back as quickly as next season but im sure i probably thought the same last year so who knows
One of the players who got a nomination this year had 7 yellows and a red. Another had 6 yellows etc, certainly more than Paul Breen. I don't know what system the Referees use but it certainly doesn't include disciplinary record or consistent good performances. To think Paul Breen has never received even a nomination takes a lot of gloss off these awards. Absolute farce.Quote:
Originally Posted by Honestman
Have to admit its disgraceful alright how one of the best and most consistant players in the league gets over looked. Ive been to enough awards to see the crazy going on's and it always amazes how they come up with some nonimee's and and even more so the winners !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by nononsense
Well i think the red card debate is irrelevant as we saw in cooke park in the league decider Breen will not be sent off regardless of the tackle,it certainly was a beauty,personally i believe the refs look at certain guys getting international recognition and focus on the guys who get ignored,how many times has Tony Scully been the tsdl player of the year and his brother Paul,prime example
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Originally Posted by Mega Tots
Ya i i agree ... I personally think players who have enough recognition are ignored. Kind of a case of share the wealth i suppose and give other lads the lime light for a night. So more often than not the "real player of the year" is not even nominated.
also heard thurles town?? big shock if that happens...but it is his local team!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtBilko
Foggy WILL BE playing with Thurles Town next season
ive heard foggy will be with borris. also heard they will add alan leahy, barry ryan and mick ryan. pretty decent signings if true and enough to keep them safe from the drop
No chance of any of them signing for Borris,Foggy is going to Thurles Town and Mick may go with him but i think he will stay at Villa and Alan Leahy is a definite to stay with Villa and Barry will stay with Town,from what i have heard Borris are chasing Michael Rafter and a couple from BorrisoleighQuote:
Originally Posted by the wombat
michael rafter could be available , has not started with waterford of late plus there signing a class act in adam mcsherry so he could fall down the pecking order at the RSC. hope the tsdl dont lose 2 class players in foggy and mick ryan to thurles town in north tipp league be a shame to lose 2 of our better performers
Borris were being compared to Man City at the start of the season,rumours of players getting money and all sorts of signings yet none of that really materialised,a reasonably local side won the first division,Foggy is not going to walk away from winning a munster to play north tipp,Barry Ryan is not going to leave a club like Town for Borris,i think Borris will need to sign at least 4 though,i saw Cashel beat them 5-0 in the fai and they were definitely carrying a few weak linksQuote:
Originally Posted by the wombat
heard today from a committee member that peake are to meet with tommy gaynor about the job. i remember he was there before alright. might have won a league but not sure? has he left borris or had a falling out? i have to agree with you balls it would be a shame to lose mick and foggy, 2 class footballers
The club are interviewing a guy from Nenagh but it is not Tommy Gaynor
be interesting to see who goes to both borris and villa this year...villa need a serious overhall! will they any of there ex-players back form town? Ted o connor, Derek loughnane?
rafter would be an interesting one, if he joins on board...surely would be a class act!
are the north planning on entering a oscar traynor team? the secretary is thurles town man maybe he has this in mind trying to attract some quality players?
Very interesting point about the Oscar Traynor in North Tipp that could be a real possibility,i think all 3 of the boys will stay at Town,if 1 moves the 3 will move i think and it would be Borris they would go to ahead of Villa unfortunately,as you said massive overhaul needed but great to see the club looking for a manager in May,no hanging aroundQuote:
Originally Posted by MerchantsView
That story of foggy signing for thurles town was goin on last year aswell, not a chance will it happen. he might play a bit of pre season like he often does but nothing more. I havent a clue where he will play but wouldnt be thurles town.
i say tommy gaynor will be at borris next year, i believe he enjoyed it last year so dont see why he would leave.
rafter move would be interesting, him coming back to the club that made him, would be some signin, hes quality. i believe he is interested, tryin to make him not play for glengoole might be the only team troubling borris. it will be one or the other i reckon.
Dont think any of the 3 clonmel town boys would be back at peake anyway.
whats the story with football around thurles anyway. how can peake go from winning the premier to being relegation contenders in the space of a few months. was it all down to the management that they won the league? would o dwyer be asked back? i mean a few years back there was no way foggy or mick ryan would move to north tipp in their prime. is the north tipp league improving or becoming more attractive? i know nothing about thurles town so can only guess. are they now on a par with peake or borris?
surely rafter wont sign for glengoole. what a waste that would be
Nenagh town and celtic are good but apart from that, its poor. theres a player that plays with nenagh town (o gorman), serious player, i would love to see him play with in the tsdl, he would be the best in the league i say if he played here.
thurles town cant be mentioned in the same sentance as peake or borris...thurles town are bad. i hope they improve because i know alot of there players but its a non stop booze fest in there (there captain will tell you this :D )
listen, i really think its possible rafter could be playin with glengoole next year, i hope not but could happen. There his best friends down there and i say he would love it. He could bring them up to prem on his own cause they aint a bad side.
also, best of luck to clonmel celtic tonight in tipp cup. My favourite team in tipp apart from my own.
O Gorman would be the best player in our league???????? better than the junior internationals we have like Breen and Higgins....what planet are you possibly on???? Breen is potentially the best junior player in the country but if O Gorman came to Tsdl from north tipp he would be the best???
Best goin forward i should have sayin. Not better than breen no.
And what planet are you on to think foggy is playin with thurles town next season??????
He wont be anywhere near the best going forward either, Jimmy Carr and Tony Scully are junior international players,that guy wasnt even considered for the Munster selection let alone junior international,Foggy now has a 2nd kid and is married and does not have the time to commit and Thurles Town was the club he started at and his friends are atQuote:
Originally Posted by footballfanatic
If thats your oppinion, fare enough.
Fare point about foggy, i will have to see it to believe it.
It is not an opinion its a fact,if O Gorman was better than Scully or Jimmy Carr then Gerry Smith would know all about himQuote:
Originally Posted by footballfanatic
foggy, jimmy carr, scully, evan maguire, paul kennedy, pa quinn, mick ryan, slattery, richie ryan and o hara. there are 10 better players going forward than o gorman, just off the top of my head. and i have seen and played against o gorman on numerous times
Goodmen yearselves, i gave my oppinion, ye obviously disagree.
Would O Gorman score the 20+ that Moroney,Barry Ryan,Hawk O Dywer,Kennedy have for the last 10 years....no chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by the wombat
any result in tipp cup final lads
Saints won 1-0 Balls,Pa Quinn,massive brawl at the end,Celtic manager hit a saints player,mayhemQuote:
Originally Posted by balls
terrible argument megatots, who knows would he.
jesus thats terrible. pa quinn has scored some very important goals this season, has turned into the leagues top marksman. fair play to himQuote:
Originally Posted by Tipp Top
Would definitely agree with that,he has scored in Fai final,Munster final and now Tipp cup finalQuote:
Originally Posted by the wombat
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