Tipp South & District League 2009/10

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Originally Posted by saintsfan

may be they tossed a coin for home or away, that is usually the agreement teams come to.

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I can assure you that no coin was tossed. Seemingly neutral venues for Tipperary Cup semi finals are not used any more, and I also know when this changed as Celtic have been in the Tipperary Cup semi final for the last 4 years. Last year they were away to Ballingarry, in 2008 at home to Town and in 2007 a neutral venue was used when Celtic played Rock Rovers in Cooke Park.

So obviously the TSDL changed policy in 2008 and I don't know why. Anyone any ideas? Much prefer if it was a neutral venue this year as it will be hard to Celtic to get a result up there.

that's me told!! Seriously though, the TSDL often change their minds about things so no surprises there. May be Saints were first out of the draw for the semi final - isn't that how CLonmel Town got home advantage ie, Cahir in fai semi (whenever that is played) - they were first out in the draw, may be that is how they are working it.

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Originally Posted by Quietman

Firstly it was abandoned, "no match" would imply that it never took place. Are you implying that because the match was abandoned, that they shouldn't be held accountable for their actions??......seriously??

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Not at all. I fully believe that they should be held accountable for their actions. But, in the case of an abandoned game, why is the game being started from scratch, and not from the point at which it was abandoned. Why basically, are Peake Villa being punished, unless it was ruled that they were responsible for the abandonment

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Originally Posted by Insidetherock

If the result was declared a "no match" .. how are they suspended at all ?

This was one of the things I was talking about during the week. Again, probably won't be thanked for this point of view, but I would have no sympathy at all for Aaron Moroney if he misses both the FAI Junior Cup game and the Munster Junior Cup game. Players need to learn that violent actions have consequences, and it might make him think a bit harder next time he decides to jump into a dangerous tackle. A player missing work (and possibly losing it altogether) is a lot worse than a player missing a few football matches.

That said, I hope Clonmel Town win the Munster Junior, and wish them and Michaels all the best in the FAI

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seriously though a player must be punished even if the match is abandoned. otherwise whats to stop a team thats losing 3 nil at half time from starting a brawl in order to get the match replayed on another day?? by the way i heard that 2 peake players have also been suspended

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Originally Posted by saintsfan

that's me told!! Seriously though, the TSDL often change their minds about things so no surprises there. May be Saints were first out of the draw for the semi final - isn't that how CLonmel Town got home advantage ie, Cahir in fai semi (whenever that is played) - they were first out in the draw, may be that is how they are working it.

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Correct, Saints were first out of the hat as the draw was made on Tipp FM a few weeks ago. I'd be still interested in hearing the TSDL's reasoning for not using neutral venues for Tipperary Cup semi finals anymore.

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Originally Posted by Insidetherock

Not at all. I fully believe that they should be held accountable for their actions. But, in the case of an abandoned game, why is the game being started from scratch, and not from the point at which it was abandoned. Why basically, are Peake Villa being punished, unless it was ruled that they were responsible for the abandonment

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Clonmel Town were similarly 'punished' in last year's Tipperary Cup final when the game was abandoned after 55 minutes with Celtic down to 10 men. In fairness to Town they never moaned about the fact that they had to play the full game again with Celtic restored to 11 players although the player that was sent off in the abandoned game was suspended for the final.

You are right, Roberto, neutral venues are the fairest, and as you say, Saints are hard to beat on their own patch, Saints will be up for it, cause silver ware is important to them this year as League is gone for them, Best of luck to both teams this Saturday night.

Balingarry are drawn to be at home in the other semi but there pitch has been deemed unplayable and so it was switched to a neutral venue.

peake villa looking well for the league...come on the villa...

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Originally Posted by bishbash

Balingarry are drawn to be at home in the other semi but there pitch has been deemed unplayable and so it was switched to a neutral venue.

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Where and what time is Balingarry and Rock fixed for?

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Originally Posted by Bin Ladin

pony how come st michaels are getting home advantage against ye in tipp cup semi final

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Cos they were out of the hat first

saints are very difficult to beat in cooke pk, im gonna go for saint michaels 3-1, think rock rovers to edge out ballingarry 2-1.

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Originally Posted by Insidetherock

Not at all. I fully believe that they should be held accountable for their actions. But, in the case of an abandoned game, why is the game being started from scratch, and not from the point at which it was abandoned. Why basically, are Peake Villa being punished, unless it was ruled that they were responsible for the abandonment

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The game was abandoned because of the behaviour of BOTH teams................simples!!:D

i see the referees awards night are fixed for friday the 14th of may, anyone have any idea when the nominations are out for the player of the year in each divisions?

your posts are just hilarious!!!! Keep them coming. Town must be so proud to have a supporter like you.

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Originally Posted by balls

i see the referees awards night are fixed for friday the 14th of may, anyone have any idea when the nominations are out for the player of the year in each divisions?

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Probably in next weeks papers........................... I see it's on in the Clonmel Park Hotel again. Great venue, made it a very good night last year!! Who would your nominations be for the respective divisions??

Don't know what's going on at Town but I would imagine Muiris Walsh will be a big loss to the club following his resignation.

premier id go with paul shanahan, jimmy carr, raymie condon as nominations in other divisions u prob just have to go with league winners getting player of the year so you would be talking about galbally, moyglass, cashel town b, cahir b all having players in the running, nominations should be in paper this week if its on next friday give people time to get sorted for it. ya it was very good last year in clonmel park hotel, alot better than 3 or 4 years ago when they had it in a pub in clonmel it was a terrible place for it

what?? when this did happen!! that can't be true- no way that man would walk away from Town, not in a million years

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Originally Posted by complexman

what?? when this did happen!! that can't be true- no way that man would walk away from Town, not in a million years

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Heard it from a VERY reliable source.

This is a wind up. Although, he did have some heart trouble last year, so maybe there is a health issue. Wasn't always a favourite of mine but I had grown to like him. big loss but I can't believe its true

i think the nominations should be alan leahy of peake, paul shanahan of celtic and raymie condon of clonmel. leahy to win, long overdue. think it will be difficult for celtic at cooke park especially catching saints on the back of a defeat last week. one nil to saints for me

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Originally Posted by ronburgundy

plus i would give more credit to liam mackey at the back this year than i would to leahy, he doesnt seem to be fully tuned in

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Now your giving Leahy player of the year???

last 2 months he has been exceptional, granted, mackey is unlucky to miss out

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Originally Posted by ronburgundy

last 2 months he has been exceptional, granted, mackey is unlucky to miss out

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I think most people from all the clubs on here would agree Alan Leahy has been outstanding for 5 years and easily Peakes best player in those 5 years and despite the events of the last week i hope they secure the result they need to win the league,the likes of Leahy,O Connor,Fogarty and Duggan should be winning leagues and cups,they would grace any junior side in the country

From TSDL website:


Player of the Year Nominations are as follows:

Premier League
Graham Doyle - Clonmel Celtic
Davy Ryan - St Michaels
Michael Coleman - Cashel Town

Division 1
Colm Riordan - St. Nicholas
Daryl Sheedy - Galbally Utd
Michael Ivors - Ballingarry Albion

Division 2
Connie Power - Kilmanahan Utd
Michael Lacey - Moyglass Utd
Geoff Brennan - Glengoole Utd

Division 3
Timmy Ryan - Cullen-Lattin
Alan Carter - Burncourt Celtic
John Fitzgerald - Cashel Town B

Division 4
Jonathan Connors - Peake Villa B
Adrian Walsh - Kilbehenny Celtic
Barry Kiely - Ballypatrick

Youths Div 1:
Evan Maguire - Clonmel Town
Alan Hayes - St Michaels A
Shane Murphy - Cahir Park A

Youths Div 2:
Eoin Riordan - St Nicholas
Liam Mangan - Clerihan
Oliver O'Driscoll - St Michaels B

Muiris Walsh has resigned from his PRO position because of his anger towards decisions that the TSDL committee have made regarding the TSDL not allowing Robbie Costigan to sign so late in the season when there is clearly no rule in the book to say he cannot and also he feels the suspensions to Moroney and Burns were harsh considering the circumstances.

He feels that the TSDL are not behind the club in their efforts to win the Munster and the FAI, I wonder who makes these decisions.

Any other rumours that there is in-fighting in the club is untrue.

suprised at the nominations, all good players though and fair play to them. wonder can cashel hold onto coleman, heard a few of their players are saints bound...........................

Graham Doyle had a great season in fairness to him, also has a great attitude towards his teammates and his opponents, worthy of the nod for the premier league award but your man, Leahy is also an excellent player, has been in the top 3 of centre halves in the league over past few years. I'd give it to the 2 if I could.

What Cashel players are good enough to play at the Town/Michaels level? I know your man Slattery is a decent forward, anytime i have seen Coleman in action his height and strength always went against him, couldn't rate him.

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Originally Posted by Quietman

From TSDL website:


Player of the Year Nominations are as follows:

Premier League
Graham Doyle - Clonmel Celtic
Davy Ryan - St Michaels
Michael Coleman - Cashel Town

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I can't believe Raymie Condon's name is not on that list??? :confused:

That cannot simply be true. Look I don't know Muiris well but I do know that he would not and I repeat would not walk away from Clonmel Town FC over the TSDL. To suggest that he would go for those reasons is ridiculous. The club are facing into the Munster Junior Cup final and a FAI Semi, do you mean to tell me he would walk away from that. Do you realise who this man is??? Are you aware of his standing in the game and in Clonmel Town? Do you know of his passion for ClonmelTown and for sport. The few players I know, tell me he is the most respected man in the club.
I am sorry, if its true that he has gone, its not because of Tommy Lewis or the TSDL. I don't think its his health, because I saw the man on Thursday in Superquinn and he looked fine. I just hope the man is ok. Clonmel Town can't lose people of the caliber of Muiris Walsh

Well "complexman" its the truth, do you not know anyone in the club that could confirm it to you? Muiris wears his heart on his hand and is very passionate and I believe this is a very unthoughtful and rash decision, I know him well and I am sure he will be back alright, he is just frustrated with some of the decisions made by the TSDL, the two aforementioned reasons are only the tip of the barrel.

I don't know are the performances of the nominees based just on the Tipperary domestic league and cup only, if so in fairness Clonmel Town haven't had the best of league campaigns so its probably fair not to have a Town player in the final 3 but if the award was going for FAI or Munster he would definitely win the award, a colossus, a role model for any young centre half, I hope for him that we do win a major trophy this year as he will be lifting it.

None of this is adding up, either Muiris is very selfish and walked away at a crucial time or else something major has gone on. I don't know him at all but I can't believe he would just up and leave at this stage. if it was a problem, why not wait till the season was over? Something not adding up here. As I say I don't know him only to see and hear. I said some things about him, that I regret. I think this is awful news for Clonmel Town. I agree with complexman, I just hope he is ok and that nothing major is wrong. Anybody here actually know the man personally and could find out?

So will Clonmel Town do Celtic a favour tomorrow or will they field a weakened side?

Not a hope, the players stance is not to let Peake win the league in the complex after that happened 2 weeks ago and beat them and let them both fight it out between themselves in the play off.

Mega
You could have cracked the Muiris Walsh mystery, maybe he walked because Town were going to field a wekened side- I hope they don't and don't believe they will put that might be the reason for Muiris walking

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Originally Posted by balls

saints are very difficult to beat in cooke pk, im gonna go for saint michaels 3-1.

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St. Michaels 1-2 Clonmel Celtic

A deserved victory for the Celts

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Originally Posted by ComeOnTownNow

Well "complexman" its the truth, do you not know anyone in the club that could confirm it to you? Muiris wears his heart on his hand and is very passionate and I believe this is a very unthoughtful and rash decision, I know him well and I am sure he will be back alright, he is just frustrated with some of the decisions made by the TSDL, the two aforementioned reasons are only the tip of the barrel.

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Mmmm- well if that is the case, it is a very unthoughtful decision and I am dissaponted with him. Why punish Town for the wrongs of the TSDL. I cannot understand how we could leave Town at such a crucial stage of the season. My opinion of him has gone down. Bad form leaving the club at this stage but as you say hopefully he will be back.But do the club need guys who walk out when they don't agree with a decision. The club hasn't done anything wrong, so why not stick by your club.
This is all very strange

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Originally Posted by complexman

Mmmm- well if that is the case, it is a very unthoughtful decision and I am dissaponted with him. Why punish Town for the wrongs of the TSDL. I cannot understand how we could leave Town at such a crucial stage of the season. My opinion of him has gone down. Bad form leaving the club at this stage but as you say hopefully he will be back.But do the club need guys who walk out when they don't agree with a decision. The club hasn't done anything wrong, so why not stick by your club.
This is all very strange

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Well if this is true, he is not the man I believed him to be. Its a sad day for him and a good one for Clonmel Town. The club need people who will stick by the club and fight for them,not run away because of the TSDL. If everyone who didn't like the rulings of the TSDL left, then nobody would be left in football. Town should just move on without him. As was said the club has done nothing wrong and the real good people who care about Town are still there.Muiris Walsh is not bigger than Clonmel Town. It survived without him and will survive without him. They will be stronger