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Wonder88,fair enough.but as an ex kinda LSL Grade player myself,i would pay my own way from game to game,leauge to leauge just to reach another/the next level,i got €50 as a xmas bonus one time from a team i was playing for and was so chuffed i went and got ****ed on it,me the pro,getting paid LOL
Money in lower leauges is not the attraction its the buzz for the next step up that keeps you going! (well for me anyway) It's always the step up and NOT MONEY.
The odd time they actually dared show their faces.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guitd
This all makes complete sense, but this is the FAI we are talking about. Clubs re-elected Eamonn Naughton as chairman of the league by one vote. He has clearly been looking after his own interests and his banker votes from Mervue and Salthill ahead of the good of Galway football.Quote:
Originally Posted by bullit
Tribesman2 and his buddies can go on about "there fair and square" all he likes but that isn't even true. They were given an A Championship place fair enough, the requirements were very loose. They were then given a First Division licence when they shouldn't have been. Clubs around the country who were as well equipped for LOI football as they were, more so even, but they were told to take a run and jump.
GUST have the manpower, decades of LOI experience, the support of Galway United fans, the business community and the fanbase who know who greeted them at the gate of Terryland every second Friday.
It's ok for Mervue and Salthill to apply for 2013 licences while they are taking part in "the process", but it would not be proper for GUST to be allowed do so.
F*** off.
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Originally Posted by gufcfan
Absolutely. Mervue and Salthill are entitled to play in the LOI at the moment, and most people do not dispute this. What most football people in Galway have a problem with at the moment is the fact that the other 42 clubs in the Galway and District League are being denied representation. They do not feel Mervue or Salthill represent them and would feel represented by a team run by the Galway United Supporters Trust as they have been working hard since the departure of Leeson and his cronies to rebuild relationships and reach out to all the clubs in the area.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
In a year where there is an open call for expressions of interest from new and existing entities to join the First Division why can an expression of interest from GUST be refused? Their presence in the league is not going to impact on the crowds of any other team. They have a sufficient support base (more than most FD clubs), the use of a top quality ground, owned by the Galway F.A., they have finally acquired a part-share in a training ground (for the first time in Galway United history).
For Delaney and co. to refuse to issue an application pack to such an enthusiastic, experienced and dedicated group of genuine football people is outrageous. The excuse, as gufcfan refers to is that GUST are part of the Ned O'Connor process and so, to admit them now would not be appropriate. This is a hollow argument when two of the four members of the process are being allowed to reapply for licences. If this was a fair and equal process all would be denied and the process would be moved at a far more rapid pace ensuring the new entity would be in place on time for 2013. If, as Delaney claims, this is not possible for 2013 why deny those of us who do not live in Mervue or Salthill a team for a second year running? If this isn't sorted I'll be off to the Sportsground with everyone else. I'm a lifelong fan of football, my father was involved in the game for decades, but to hell with the FAI if this is how they will treat us !
do you need an information pack to apply? Apply anyway....maybe get a license, force Delaney's hand.
http://thescore.thejournal.ie/cobh-r...urce=shortlink
Would love to see this.
Naughton will not allow GUST apply at any cost. He has election promises to keep to the other two. He is on the NLEC which gives out the packs anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by fieldofmarkets
Those debts though. How much income can Cobh expect from League of Ireland to pay it off without being totally crippled financially?Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
€24k doesn't seem like an impossible amount to manage if there's any bit of goodwill from the creditors at all. The league could do with Cobh coming back.
Cobh owe players money, players who have said they are not willing to budge any further. Greg and Dav have agreed payment schedules with the club in the past and the club have fallen through.
They may have changed their minds on this since last year but if not and if Cobh can't come up with the money they owe players then they won't get a license.
I'd imagine that's why the PFAI are involved. Trying to come to an agreement and to see that Cobh stick to it. Players have a better chance of getting their money if they come back into the league.
What he said. I don't really buy the whole line about their not being enough players in the player pool either. It looks true at first glance but if the GUST machine is really so much bigger than the other two clubs they're going to have their pick of the players anyway which would probably only serve the hasten the demise of Mervue/Salthill that so many people in Galway seem desperate for. Given the crowds that the existing clubs draw (so well documented by the GUST people on here) there's little worry that GUST will be outbid for players, common sense would suggest that GUST would effectively take what they wanted and strangle the other two.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
Denied representation where? I don't think that the junior clubs in any part of the country feel particularly 'represented' by the senior club in the city (and nor should they be). In most cases the senior club is just an inconvenience who will come along and harvest your best players when you do put a good side together. I think all senior clubs would like to get on better with the local juniors but the current love-in between GUST and the GDL will be seriously strained once GUST start looking for players to field a senior team again.Quote:
Originally Posted by KevBGUFC
How much income can they expect from outside the league though?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Ah come here now, you can't have it both ways. You can't claim to have carried the club for 10-25 years but that you had nothing to do with the meltdown that led to the last financial meltdown. Which is it? Look, GUST should obviously be allowed to apply for a First Division license and given the scarcity of teams currently in the league they should be allowed in. At that point they (and Mervue and SD) should be allowed to have natural selection take it's course. Mervue (in particular) and Salthill are not the problem though and it's getting a bit jaded that they're constantly being alluded to as all that stood between GUFC and regular visits to the Champions League group stages (yes, I'm being a little facetious, there's no need to point that out).Quote:
Originally Posted by gufct
I highly doubt GUST would have their pick of players like they suggest they might. They talk of Stephen O Donnell, Iarlaith Davoren, Alan Keane et al coming back to play for a Galway club but it's never going to happen. They're going to be picking from Mervue/Salthill teams if they ever get a licence. That's the reality. Players will go where the money is and that will never be in a Galway club. And even some of these players who were with GUFC under GUST's stewardship found it difficult to get their wages owed and sometimes went weeks unpaid so it would be difficult to see them rushing back.
GUST said they had a major sponsor in place to back their LOI team for last season if they got in. This same sponsor jumped on board with both Mervue and Salthill and afaik and is the main sponsor of both clubs.
Where have GUST stated this? They have said they want to build a club so that players like these don't have to up-sticks to Sligo, Dublin etc. to play LoI. I don't think anyone is foolish enough to think that the lads mentioned above would run back to Galway in the morning if GUST got in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman2
GUST said they had a major sponsor in place to back their LOI team for last season if they got in. This same sponsor jumped on board with both Mervue and Salthill and afaik and is the main sponsor of both clubs.[/QUOTE]
We had a main sponsor on board, a letter from this sponsor was forwarded to the FAI as part of a presentation to have our licence application considered. The sponsor was subsequently persuaded by the FAI to support SD Galway.
The players that you named are actually hugely supportive of GUST and would love to return at some stage to in the the future to play for Galway United. Their families would also be well known to GUST and would be behind the return of a united Galway team - as late as last Saturday I spoke to a brother of one of the above.
This is the second time that you have insinuated that named players have not been paid wages - again a fabrication. It would be similar to me posting "Raffael Cretaro hates Sligo Rovers, he will be out of there like a shot" or some or unsubstantiated, bitter rubbish.
No he actually said they went weeks without being paid, not that they still haven't been paid. Isn't it true that players went weeks at the time without being paid?Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Dunne
There were delays in payment of wages at various times at Galway United between 2010 - 2011 - this would have been wided featured in the media and on various fora.
The "holier than thou" attitude adopted by Tribesman2 is bizarre, considering that his club only managed to pay players for the first three weeks of the 2012 season.
The original point, that a lot of players from Galway currently forced to play outside the county, would return if there was a strong Galway club in the League of Ireland, still stands.
And this isn't fabrication? How do you know what they want? You don't have a clue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Dunne
I speak to the missus all the time about Longford Town, doesn't mean she gives a ****.
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Originally Posted by Patrick Dunne
You realise how ridiculous this sounds don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Dunne
"If we're a strong club the local lads will come back." Well, d'uh! if you're that strong you'll have the pick of the league! Each as likely as the other.
As for the "I was talking to his brother" line...
People, i think anyone would have to find it a tad strange that GUST are being shunned by the FAI when its clear as day they need them to make up numbers. For an onlooker it would definitely appear that there is something fishy going on here. How long can the FAI block them is the question?
And Limerick are the last club that should be sticking the knife in i would have thought, given all that went on between them and the FAI before the L37 episode. The club were shunned and ye are lucky to be where ye are right now, just my opinion. But thats a standard rule of thumb in this league; wait long enough and your own club will be in some sort of turmoil at some stage. No one in this league can afford to have glass houses or to throw stones.