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Originally Posted by The Legend
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236 miles apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Legend
Another claim in the Sun today that McGeady is moving to Sunderland for 10 million. I personally reckon this particular rumour has some legs in it since it's been mentioned numerous times in a number of papers.
Personally I'd see it as a good move for him and a good move for Ireland as he'll be playing with Reid, McShane, Miller, Stokes and possibly Hunt regularly which should ensure they all develop a good understanding of each other and transplant this to the international team (where none of the midfield or forwards seem to have any understanding of each other).
I realise not all of the aforementioned will be at Sunderland next season (I believe it's likely Miller and Stokes will be offloaded) but the sentiment remains, playing with a few International colleagues regularly is better than playing with none. This is particularly true if Sunderland did have a midfield of Hunt, Reid and McGeady next season as this is a particular area of the International team where we need to see an improvement in our use of the ball.
It's also true that none of the big clubs will take a risk on McGeady while he's playing in the SPL. If he performs well at Sunderland, however, then there's every possibility he could be moved on next season. It will also be beneficial for him to test himself against International quality defenders (which most Premiership teams contain) on a regular basis rather than on only a few occasions each season in the Champions league.
The worry I have however is that he'll struggle with the more physical side of the game in the Premiership but in the absence of any transfer offers from a decent club on the continent I think he's be better off moving to Sunderland than staying at Celtic.
Latest rumour: Roy Keane linked with every Irishman currently able to kick a football.
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Originally Posted by OwlsFan
There's my laugh of the morning. Well put.
Nice see him at least some faith in Irish lads all the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
sorry i skimmed the thread and did a "reid" search with firefox's page searcher but didn't find mention of mark hughes rumour, wanting to bring steven reid to man. city. i thought it would be interesting to see how he would fit in with s. ireland as a potential partnership. playing them together every week could only help us in the OHH that's right i forgot ;)
Strictly speaking it'sQuote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Every Irishman or former Man U plaer or former Celtic player.
This is a real sign of Keane's weakness as a manager, he obviously has no knowledge of football outside payers he has played with and no scouting network.
Indeed. A little like arguably his two most successful signings, Kenwyne Jones and Carlos Edwards.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
It is a sign of how low the stock of Irish players has fallen that there are so few stories about about moves (with the exception of them all going to Sunderland)
It would be good to see Doyle move to a premiership club and McGeady needs to prove himself outside the SPL.
McShane to anywhere he can get a game.
A fit Duff and Given playing regular football at Newcastle.
There are others but that would be a good start.
I forgot Trinidadian's presumably on Yorke's recommendations, its still a small poolQuote:
Originally Posted by livehead1
kenwyne jones got keanes transfer dealings out of jail.Keane definetly needs to improve in this respect this time around.Sunderland spent alot of money last year without these players justifying the outlay
I Definately read that rumour about two weeks ago...Quote:
Originally Posted by ken foree
interesting, seeing as the thread was started about 3 weeks ago - have we totally given up on the younger stevie then?? personally i was looking forward to more pink rims, underpants-revealing, volleys from outside the box, insanely fabricated stories, etc., etc. only slight sarcasm there :pQuote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee
You'd think with Keane's reputation (as a player) he should be able to attract some better footballers than he has done. He wasted disgracful amount of money last season on players. Chopra, £5m, certainly not woth that much. Halford, £2.5m sent out on loan to Charlton. Prica, ?? not up to much there either. K. Jones & A. Reid were he best signings & saved his season.Quote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
He does seem to rely a lot on players he has played with before. Is this because he feels he knows how to handle these player better than some foreign stars, who they could well afford going on the money wasted? That would be a sign of weakness.
Or he simply could be giving the Irish lads a chance, which is good in a way but it could turn into a bit of a graveyard for them when they fall out of flavour. eg. Kavanagh, Harte, Connolly, Stokes, McShane, Miller(transfer listed), Murphy (nearly went to QPR in Jan) O'Donovan (rumoured to be going on loan to the SPL). Granted the first 3 wont be really involved in the Interenational scene anymore, but the rest need to be getting games.
I read somewhere that Sunderland have employed John Barnes last year as their "Carribbean Scout", so could we expect few more Trinadad & Tobagans arriving on Wearside?
not anymoreQuote:
Originally Posted by amjl
Well he will only play regularly with McShane if he is in the reserves. Probably Stokes & Miller too.Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
He's doing very nicely nicely thank you v much. His record in mgmt is fanfu*kingtastic so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
What it might indicate is that it's hard to get big names to move to Sunderland, that has been mentioned before by folks at the club, the WAGs don't fancy the shopping in Sunderland apparently.
Apparently Crystal Palace were considering a bid for Mark Yeates, but his injury history has scared them off, Forest were also interested, both would have been good moves IMO.
http://www.eleven-a-side.com/acrosst...ws.asp?n=32793
Ah Yeates, the 'new Gascoigne'' according to Martin Jol.
Keane's job last year was to keep Sunderland up, which he accomplished. This year it is to push higher, maybe 9-12 place. There is money to spend, strong leadership from Quinn and Keane, and most importantly money to spend. They may have to overpay the likes of Darren Bent, Aiden McGeady, etc, but I expect they will push forward again this season. Quinn does a great job as chairman and Keane has his team fighting tooth and nail every week.Quote:
Originally Posted by amjl
Plus, Stoke and Hull appear to be on the Derby County plan, and Wigan, Bolton, Fulham, WBA are almost sure to finish below Sunderland. With strengthening, they could certainly pass Middlesbrough and Newcastle, with the latter looking to trim expenses as Sunderland are infused with cash.
Sunderland's most important signing target is Jonny Evans. The defense is crap without him.
It seems Yeates' move to Crystal Palace is in doubtQuote:
Originally Posted by irishultra
Ah....well unlucky, at least it shows he has done something since leaving Spurs. I thought he had become a nobody.
The News of the World reckons that Paul Ince will bring Keith Andrews with him from MK dons to Blackburn - good and late opportunity for him.
Ireland call up. Imagine he was like Ryan Nelson.
Ok apparently he is a midfielder which sucks. I was hoping he was a defender.
Jesus that's a big leap in standard for him, League 2 is below Eircom First standard. Seems like a made up story to me, journalists adding 1 and 1 to make 3. Otherwise Ince is mad.Quote:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff
ah no, seriously though....Quote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
sorry if this has been posted elsewhere, I hope it works out for these lads, Conor McCormack at one time was one of those "next-fill in the blank" type of players, off to Serie B
http://www.eleven-a-side.com/acrosst...ws.asp?n=32896
IS the story of Given turning Arsenal down in favour of staying at Newcastle true? If so I'm very disappointed with Given, I wouldn't call it loyality, i'd call that lack of ambition
If you believe that you're off your trolley.........Quote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
Who knows if it is true or not but I would agree that if it is true then it's a lack of ambition on his part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morbo
I don't quite understand of logic of saying a player who doesn't want to move to the Gunners or United lacks ambition? If you move to these clubs you are virtually guaranteed medals, is JOSH ambitious or happy to play a bit part and collect his medals?? Newcastle is a huge club and it may say more about Given's character and commitment to stay and try and wuin things there than move to the Gunners and win the easy way....just my 2c
Newcastle is a huge club??? Ha. Stadium size doesn't not a huge club make. Big clubs win trophies.
It lacks ambition because you are not pushing yourself to play at the highest level you are capable of, surely playing in the champions league would be good for Given and Ireland as would playing in big title deciding games against the likes of MU or Chelsea rather than just playing for a mid table team who's biggest game of the year is probably a derby against Sunderland. The Josh situation is totally different because he is happy to be a bench warmer while Given would be a starter for Arsenal as he is better than the Aluminium chapQuote:
Originally Posted by Qwerty
Yeah, but he gets much more practice at Newcastle.
Hoolahan to Norwich, nice move
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/sto...739797,00.html
shame...thought he could have aimed higher than that...Quote:
Originally Posted by SaucyJack
I think its a very good move for Wes. Norwich are a much bigger club with bigger crowds to play in front of which will only help him.
They have being progressing steadily under Reoder & Wes will more than fill the gap left in the team by Huckerby's & Dublin's departures. I'd say he'll do well there. Could become a fans favorite!
He could just be using them as a stepping stone to the Preimer League...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Ogba
He has taken the around about way so far to the Championship/Ireland call-up
BBC Gossip column
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Cardiff are close to completing a deal for Everton defender Darren Dennehy after City held talks with the Premier League club earlier this week. (Various, 1550 BST)
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MK Dons captain Keith Andrews, 27, is a target for Watford as Hornets manager Aidy Boothroyd plots a return to the Premier League. (The Sun)
I'm all for ambition but we have to remember Given is in his 30's now and has been living in and playing for Newcastle for 10 years or so now, he is settled with his family and probably has his life pretty much the way he wants it. Would any of us uproot our families and move to the other end of the country to play for a club for whom we had no real affection or loyalty on the off chance that we may be their starting keeper (remember Wenger has shown great faith in Almunia) or we may end up warming the bench because we have a couple of dodgy games and the club can afford to splash out on a replacement. I'm sure Given would weigh up the pros and cons but at his age it is perfectly understandable that he doesnt want to move. If he were 20-24 then it would be a different story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morbo
James O'Connor has gone to Shefield Wednesday according to the mirror..