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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
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Except when they are forced to back down on WednesdayQuote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Nope, absolutely nothing to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
The fact that we are allowed be in the league while playing out of the Jacks shoots this little piece of FAI spin down
The real reasons would shock and appall everyone on here :)
Seriously though, let's just say it was a sign of things to come and that if you think quibling over a few cup final euros sets a dangerous precedent..........
Short story is the FAI didn't like Danny Drew, because Danny being Danny stood up to them even when there was no hope of him winning the argument (you could call him a later day Cork :p), told to John Delanay and the rest of the FAI exactly what he thought of them on a few occasions, namely when the FAI scuppered LFC's lease at Hogan Park so they could pinch it for themselves, and so the FAI booted Limerick FC out of the league to have the last laugh on Danny.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Long story is too complex and upsetting to go into, but the fact that quite a few EL clubs and their fans looked on in amusement as this unfolded is one of the reasons I half hope the FAI rides this league straight into the ground, pig humps it straight into the grave, it's about all it deserves for selling it's soul
Is the 100K prize money in the rule book as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo
The way I see it is that the FAI were trying to make themselves and the Cup competition look good so they figured that with a good attendance, the winners would end up with more than 100K. They then announced this and said that the winners of the cup final would receive 100K. The "well-supported" clubs in the last 4 met each other at semi-final stage and the FAI got worried that the gate wouldn't be enough to get over the 100K mark. Worried about headlines pointing out that the winners received less than promised, they announced that whatever the gate, they were guaranteeing that the winners would take home 100K.
Announcing 100K is better than announcing that the winners get 50K in prize-money (plus advertising, TV rights and a share of the gate that may push the total over 100K) so they just announced that the winners would receive 100K. I still am waiting for someone to post a link to where they announced that the prize-money on it's own would be 100K btw.
The one thing I don't understand is Cork banging on about the rule book if the prize money amount isn't in the rules. There's nothing there about TV money or advertising, so the FAI may just end up saying - ok, take the prize money and the gate but you're not getting any of the TV or advertising money...
Just got a letter from FAI offering a discounted rate for GrandStand tickets
€15 Adult, €5 Child
:confused: How is the prize money not in the rules? if they, at the last moment, said "ha! no prize money for you", i'm pretty certain there'd be a fuss about it. we paid our entrance fee to the same competition as every other club and the rules have changed since we entered; that is against another state rule of the competition, the rules which form a contract since we paid the FAI for their service of organising this competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigmac
What's going to happen so??Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
Best scenario: Irish football fans throughout the country loudly protest that this isnt on, that if they want to institute changes, do it in a months time when they arent breaking rules and taking from the clubs to pay off stan. Of course, this wont happen. We're Cork. RRS and all that, eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Actually possible scenario: FAI realise that they havent a legal leg to stand on and back down. Next FAI cup the prize money is set properly.
Another possible scenario: The FAI refuse to back down, the FAI cup final goes ahead, Cork bring legal proceedings against the FAI for changing their rules.
Aidan Tynan's Fantasy: The owners of all the other "progressive" clubs get riled up about this. They swear blindly that they will not take part in any FAI competitions. For fear of losing their prize assets, the FAI back down, and remove the FAI wage cap for clubs with a turnover of over €1million.
Got that too, what are the normal prices?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
ANGLESEA STAND: €10.00 - €25.00Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
GRANDSTAND: €5.00 - €20.00
SOUTH STAND: €5.00 - €15.00
NORTH STAND: €5.00 - €15.00
Its on the day after the Christmas meet up so I might head over to it.
It'll either kill me or make me stronger ... although if Longford win it'll
kill me ;)
Discounting with the tickets only just released.....?!? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
The FAI don't have a lot of faith in the crowd for this one so.
€25 i think. its for "loyal football fans"; i.e. people who go see the republic of ireland and pay straight into the FAI's pockets rather than through their clubs :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
They did the same last year afair.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
To boil this issue down to what I would regard as the fundamental bit- as things stand will this year's finalists make more or less than last year's finalists?
Where did CCFC say they would pull out of the FAI Cup? :confused:
But that was in a stadium with near-enough double the capacity of the RDSQuote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
That is not the "fundamental" bit. I doubt Arkaga would be the kind to quibble over a few thousand on either side of the loss/gain line. But Arkaga have repeatedly said they arent happen with the FAIs inadequacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Fine. So will this years finalists make more or less than last years?
More afaikQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
jez its great to see cork riding to the high moral ground on all our behalfs ..cant see to many other clubs caring to much about this issue and neither would cork if they were not in the final..
And its that kind of mentality that has football in this country in the dark ages. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
City and Longford have stood together on this, and so should everyone else.
But you'd care if it was you, and you will care when it is you in the next few years. FAI believe they can do anything they want anytime they want regardless fo the rules they have laid out saying they cant. This wont be the last time it happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
Im glad we're standing up to them but I dont expect anyone else to care, although I think I would even if we werent in the final. Its just another example of the FAI's disregard for our league.
Closing stable door after horse has bolted.Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
Everyone knew what they were signing up for under the shiny new League. The wage cap was clearly stated. Positive comments from lots of those involved with "big clubs" over how it was a good thing for the League. No point crying about it now.....
Thing is though Tynan and co. didnt sign up for the new league....obviously its tough they bought the club knowing what was signed up to but that doesnt mean they wont try to change it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maribor
Oh right so what this is actually about is Cork wanting all the other clubs to rally round so that they can be allowed ride rock solid over the rules they signed up to and ultimately buy the league now that they have a few bob.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
All very grandQuote:
Im glad we're standing up to them but I dont expect anyone else to care, although I think I would even if we werent in the final. Its just another example of the FAI's disregard for our league.
I don't remember you standing up when the FAI was killing my club mind
Yeah thats exactly it......:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
What me personally? I thought what they did was a disgrace....not sure what exactly I was supposed to do about it though, other than add it to the list of reasons I hate the FAIQuote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Micls - did you ever find the release where the FAI said the prizemoney was €100K. I still can't find it anywhere.
No. Ive posted on our forum to see if anyone has it. Im sure the clubs have a copy of what was named prize money when they signed up anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
Hopefully tomorrow will clear it up
Why is everyone singling Cork out alone over this ? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
It appears that both them and Longford are unhappy with the situation, and are tackling the FAI over it. Yet it's only Cork that everyone's gurning about.
Maybe the truth would only get on the way of a good opportunity to knock the Langers... :eek:
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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Or to trot out the old RRS chestnut
Fine I'll add Cork being screwed out of a few euro to my list aswellQuote:
Originally Posted by micls
It will be somewhere in the middle though between Clinton Morrison and John Delaneys hair
Personally, I genuinely thought they were the only ones making a fussQuote:
Why is everyone singling Cork out alone over this ?
Must have missed all the Longford bleating
Have you bothered to read the rest of this thread......?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
In all fairness Cork seem to have taken the lead on this with Longford relatively quieter.
It also strikes me as yet another own goal by senior football- and to my mind both the clubs and the FAI are to blame. Instead of fighting this battle via the press it should have been done in private if at all possible, and it does not appear to me that that was the case.
Yeah, I have, and I must have missed all the Longford fans complaining about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
I must also have missed the pieces about it on the Longford website, and this piece must have accidentally slipped onto the website instead.
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The Irish Independent had a piece on Saturday saying that Cork City are threatening to boycott the Cup Final if they don't get more money. Don't believe a word of it, they'll be there as it's their only route to Europe.
But make sure you're there too. During a recent trip up there on Saturday, there's only one covered stand so make sure you get the correct tickets, you know what our weather in December can be like.
Also book your Supporters' Club bus tickets as son as you can too. Ring poor auld Liam on 087 6141926 , but not after midnight from the pub,please. The Supporters' Club have bought large and medium flags which are selling well so get yours , we're actually selling them cheaper than for the last Cup Final. Don't buy off hawkers as the Club won't benefit.
Doesn't look that way from where I'm standingQuote:
Originally Posted by Pablo
Yeah, the supporters club notes from the website are the place to find how the Committee are thinking and what they are doing...
I'll do my 'care in the community' bit for you then, and quote the bits of Longford fans complaining on this thread that have somehow managed to pass you by :Quote:
Originally Posted by bigmac
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Originally Posted by Macy
P.S. My first ever use of Multi-quote ! :) Thanks DaHamsta !Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
My read on the situation, both Longford protestors notwithstanding, is that Longford are happy enough to go along behind Cork if it may mean extra money, but have no intention of boycotting the cup final, or complaining in public about the money on offer - probably because they're happy enough with what they'll get.
My point about the supporters club is not that they reflect the committee's view, but rather that they represent the view of Longford supporters.
All of it??Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Good Heavens no
Skimming, just skimming
Wow, 2 Longford fans being mildly put out constitutes Longford bleating now? This is a RRS thread, nothing more, nothing lessQuote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Anyone else get the feeling that Arkaga are a bunch of penny pinching misers. For all their brash talk at the start it doesn't look like they're going to release the funds that would enable Cork to compete financially with Pats & Bohs over the next few years.