I think people underestimate his pace. He's not lightning fast by any means but he certainly ain't no slouch. Plus, his touch and skill give him a few yards on any defender.Quote:
Originally Posted by hoopy
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I think people underestimate his pace. He's not lightning fast by any means but he certainly ain't no slouch. Plus, his touch and skill give him a few yards on any defender.Quote:
Originally Posted by hoopy
The Irish team is not the top level. Fourth from top level if our seedings are to be believed. Wes should already have 10 or so caps if our manager wasn't too stupid to pick him and instead favoured any old idiot in his place so long as they played in England.Quote:
Originally Posted by hoopy
The fee is a joke but it is just speculation, the truth is he only had a year in his contract so our hands were somewhat tied. Still, it's an awful move for him personally.
Good news on Jason
I'd stay Wes went for a bit more than 100,000. If I was to say speculate a little.
Pounds or Euro? Seems Byrne is staying so. Good to see a top eL player staying put.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gareth
Fcúking great stuff!!
Weso who?? :confused: :D :p
Delighted, but I'm still gutted over Hoolahan. Still, some good news.
And great to see the player himself turn the move down, brilliant to see.
Euro and pounds. I imagine its more than 100,000 pounds.
As Slash/ED said, great to see the player turned the transfer down himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gareth
Good news for the league.
What percentage will Belvedere get from this transfer??:confused:
Do schoolboy clubs get 10% of the total transfer fee? Could someone please fill me in because it's been doing my head in the past number of days!!
:Dthere were 3 smileis in that comment between two people who obviously know each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumcondra Red
here fishy fishy.
head.. out...of...arse...
Drums Red, he was just as he said, havin a laff with me :) Sure, they have to laugh about something :)
http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/663/dsc009411nh.jpg
St. Weso's parting words.
At least he's able to get a "Euro blow" with Shels.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...name_page.html
Here's a bit more insight from Hoolahan on his move. It starts off with him talking about Keane but he talks a little about the move further down. He said playing under Paul Lambert was a motivating factor for him.
Interesting to see scots print that.Quote:
Hoolahan became aware of Livi's interest four weeks ago and the prospect of lining up against his boyhood heroes was too much to turn down, even though Shelbourne boss Pat Fenlon reckons his side are better than Livi and that his former player is taking a step backwards by quitting Irish football for life in the SPL.
http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/663/dsc009411nh.jpg
In this article Weso states - "The fact that Shelbourne are not in the Champions League was maybe something". In other words he may have stayed if we did win the league!!
http://www.sportinglife.com/football...otspremiership
And in this article Weso states - "They are playing in the Intertoto Cup this season but even if they had the chance to play in the Champions League I wouldn't have stayed".
Very contrasting quotes indeed!
He seems he only moved to Livi just to play against the Old Firm. He's thinking way ahead of himself - he is hoping he will get spotted. If he doesn't get spotted then he is off to division one. Terrible terrible move Weso!!!
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You make it sound like having a desire to play at arenas like Ibrox and Celtic Park is something to be ashamed of. He clearly enjoyed the experience at the Riazor and would like to do something of the sort again. It's no harm to have the confidence to display yourself on the big stage. Also given that he knows Lambert he knows that he was a very cultured and intelligent midfielder who won the European Cup and can teach him a lot about his game.
Sorry for repeating myself but Lambert sees him as a winger, outdide left, whatever you want to call it. He's not quick enough!!
I agree but maybe will be easier in the SPL ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by hoopy
IMO Fenlon sold him as didn't see him as winger & could not find place for him in the centre.
[QUOTE=pete]I agree but maybe will be easier in the SPL ;)
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Don't start:)
He was fantastic on the left-wing last season for Shels - way above the level of any other Shelbourne player and I include Jason Byrne in that, and in fact, way above any other player I saw in the league last year. Last season was by far his best season, he just keeps getting better and better and I have no doubt he will a step up from Livingston before his contract it up. I just hope we have put in a sell on clause.
Yeah but I would also say I reckon his absolute best position would be played like Kaka for Milan, behind the front two. He would run riot in a position like that and it's sort of where he played in Europe where he excelled so much.
I was telling a friend about the debate going on about Hoolahan leaving a "better team" etc and how he was classed as a very good player because it was in the papers here about it when he was signing.
Anyway, he's a Rangers season ticket holder and he came back with very good reports about Wes on Saturday. He said he looked very good and had some lovely touches.
Whatever the rights and wrongs of the move, I suppose that's justification in some people's eyes. Performing (and performing well) in an arena like that will make it seem like the right decision for him no doubt.
How ? Performing well could instead be interpreted as proof that he's undersold himself. Whats the point of taking a supposed 'step-up' if it doesnt stretch or challenge you ? Wes could've had operated within the same comfort zone at Shels, but got European football to-boot as well (rather than a relegation struggle...).Quote:
Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
I'll guarantee you now that if Livi get relegated (it's looking like a 2 horse race down there at the moment) Hoolahan will be sold or jump ship to another club. Therefore - what was the point in him moving, only to move again 6mths later with less choice involved ? Surely he'd have been smarter to stay at Shels and hold-out for a better offer ? The only benefit I can think is that he's able to showacse himself to the Glasgow or Edinburgh clubs.
I'm just saying that when Wes was strutting his stuff at Ibrox, he was maybe thinking that he hadn't made the wrong move after all.....Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
I still think that Livingston are sh!te though.
It is very rare now an Irish teams (not called Longford anyway) european campaign will be two matches. Between Cork and Shels over the last two seasons alone they have had 24 european matches.
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Originally Posted by Slash/ED
I agree Slash but when nothing's guaranteed it's not a massive carrot to dangle in front of someone.
In the Record today after last nights League Cup semi final "the most intelligent player on the park". To be fair Dunfermline are muck too though.
That was one of the worst games I've seen in ages. Both teams were awful.
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Originally Posted by Schumi
You must've been bored stupid to watch it in the first place Schumi!
I was as it happens. I only lasted 15 minutes or so until I remembered there were Family Guy DVDs that I hadn't watched. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
Just in case anybody's curious, in the man by man report in the rag that is the Scottish Sun Wes got 9/10 for the match against Inverness at the weekend. It said "outstanding first half display and controlled the game. Would be a waste of talent in the First Division".
I doubt very much he'll be there when they come back for pre-season in the First Division. The reports are almost always positive so I'd expect him to get a move to a decent side. In that way I suppose his move might be considered worthwhile??