Shelbourne considering an offer for Weso

**Raheny Red** · 22/12/2005, 2:19 PM

From Shels Web:

http://www.shelbournefc.ie/news.php?id=215

Wesley Hoolahan to leave. Jason Byrne's move to Djurg�rdens back on.

Shelsweb has learned that Pat Fenlon is considering an offer from Livingston FC for talented midfielder Wesley Hoolahan. While Shelbourne fans will be shocked at the news, Wesley has long harboured an ambition to play in Britain.

Meanwhile, Jason Byrne's "on again, off again" move to Djurg�rdens of Sweden appears to be back on. While negotiations are not complete, it seems likely now that the clubs will agree terms over the coming days.

Pat Fenlon also described rumours that Glen Crowe would be leaving Tolka Park as "rubbish". He told us, "Glen is very much part of my plans for next season."

It's getting worse!!

**Macy** · 22/12/2005, 2:21 PM

Originally Posted by Raheny Red

It's getting worse!!

Is that with Hoolahan leaving or Crowe staying?

**sullanefc** · 22/12/2005, 2:40 PM

Originally Posted by Macy

Is that with Hoolahan leaving or Crowe staying?

Baddum

Is it just me or is there extra interest in LOI players from clubs abroad these days since Kevin Doyle proved to be such a success in the championship and with Irish clubs doing so well in Europe.

In a strange way this could prove beneficial to the LOI as it shows that playing for a LOI club in Europe can put you in the shop window for some big clubs. Could be a selling point for Damien Richardson, Pat Fenlon and Paul Doolin when trying to attract players to their clubs.

IMO these managers should be looking to good players, stuck in reserve teams for Premiership clubs and other foreign teams.

**pete** · 22/12/2005, 2:56 PM

Originally Posted by sullanefc

In a strange way this could prove beneficial to the LOI as it shows that playing for a LOI club in Europe can put you in the shop window for some big clubs. Could be a selling point for Damien Richardson, Pat Fenlon and Paul Doolin when trying to attract players to their clubs.

I think it all depends on the quality of clubs the players moving too. Certainly Doyles move may show players that if they good enough can move to the UK to decent club. Reading at 20 points clear of automatic promotion so most likely that Doyle will be in the Premiership less than 12 months after leaving Cork City.

I'm surprised if Hoolahan would be interested in Livingston as SPL is muck & also be surprised if they could afford him.

**stickyjoe** · 22/12/2005, 3:04 PM

whatever about Byrne leaving to sign for a club at the top end of the Swedish League I think it would be a disaster for our league and for Hoolihan if he went to Livingston who are a dreadful team and involved in a two horse race for relegation to the illustrious Scottish First Division

However if he does sign for Livingston(BTW a franchise) listen to the Irish Media push for him to be called into the Irish squad

**dcfcsteve** · 22/12/2005, 3:12 PM

Originally Posted by sullanefc

In a strange way this could prove beneficial to the LOI as it shows that playing for a LOI club in Europe can put you in the shop window for some big clubs. Could be a selling point for Damien Richardson, Pat Fenlon and Paul Doolin when trying to attract players to their clubs.

Was Stephen Kenny not deemed worthy of mention in there along with Rico and those third-rate managers.... ?

**Macy** · 22/12/2005, 3:14 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Was Stephen Kenny not deemed worthy of mention in there along with Rico and those third-rate managers.... ?

Well he'd certainly fit in with any third rate manager list!

**dcfcsteve** · 22/12/2005, 3:20 PM

Originally Posted by Macy

Well he'd certainly fit in with any third rate manager list!

Says the fan of a team who would move heaven and earth to get him back.. !

We'll make sure to send the Longford team a postcard from Europe this year. Oh - and a couple from Belfast as well....

**Dricky** · 22/12/2005, 3:36 PM

Windows Europe all that lark. Bottom line is they don't have the money.

In saying that it's good to see some cash offer coming in for them rather than the change players have been going for. case and point Doyle.

**Slash/ED** · 22/12/2005, 6:25 PM

F*cking Livingstone. Where is the logic in that?

Given his age he is worth more than Jayo, we better get good value for him. I think he would be very badly advised to goto Scotland though, aside from the obvious of it not being a very good league it simply wouldn't suit him nearly as much as a move to the continent style wise. His game is ideal for a move to the continent, not to bloody Livingstone.

**Poor Student** · 22/12/2005, 6:32 PM

Originally Posted by Slash/ED

F*cking Livingstone. Where is the logic in that?

Given his age he is worth more than Jayo, we better get good value for him. I think he would be very badly advised to goto Scotland though, aside from the obvious of it not being a very good league it simply wouldn't suit him nearly as much as a move to the continent style wise. His game is ideal for a move to the continent, not to bloody Livingstone.

There's no "e" in Livingston. I think some eL fans are starting to get deluded. We are not as good as the SPL. The SPL is a step up. Hoolihan could step up a league and guarantee himself a place. He would also have the opportunity to work under and play beside a European Cup winner. I can't believe Livingston could afford him though, they are not loaded to say the least.

**Slash/ED** · 22/12/2005, 6:36 PM

Originally Posted by Poor Student

There's no "e" in Livingston. I think some eL fans are starting to get deluded. We are not as good as the SPL. The SPL is a step up. Hoolihan could step up a league and guarantee himself a place. He would also have the opportunity to work under and play beside a European Cup winner. I can't believe Livingston could afford him though, they are not loaded to say the least.

A step up yes in terms of the league, thanks to Celtic and Rangers, but Livingston are second bottom of the SPL. Shels are a better side than they are. He could do alot better, and a move to a similar quality league on the continent would suit him far, far more.

**thejollyrodger** · 22/12/2005, 6:59 PM

Byrne can go if the price is right. As for Weso's move. What a waste of time and energy.

**jorge** · 22/12/2005, 7:51 PM

Livingston? Livingston? ****ing Livingston???

Poor Student this is a step down,end of.

**higgins** · 22/12/2005, 7:58 PM

Its a better league and if he plays well enough he will get snapped up by a better club as they watch more of the SPL then the EL.

If things dont go right for him he could be back in a shels jersey in 6 months couldnt he depending on contract?

I think it would be a good move for Weso if he has no other offers but of course from shels point of view 300K does seem low for him and just as I type that I think of 125K as being the current record ?? Are we getting ahead of ourselves.

If the price is right its a good move for all involved, same as with Jayo.

**pineapple stu** · 22/12/2005, 8:09 PM

Originally Posted by Poor Student

I think some eL fans are starting to get deluded. We are not as good as the SPL. The SPL is a step up.

I don't normally go in for the whole "the eL is great" lark, but take Celtic, Rangers and maybe Hearts out of the SPL and the rest is as good as the top half of the eL. European results have repeatedly shown there isn't much between the leagues. Bohs beat Aberdeen, Shels lost by a single goal against Kilmarnock a few years ago, Pat's drew with Celtic, Shels went 3-0 up on Rangers. And that's not to mention some of the embarrassing defeats SPL sides have suffered in recent years - Aberdeen to Skonto Riga, Dundee to MyPa, Dunfermline to Hafnarfjordur (Iceland), Kilmarnock beating Glentoran 2-0 on aggregate before losing to a (not Rosenborg) Norweigan team, Livingston beating Vaduz on penalties, Hibs getting hammered in the First Round of the UEFA Cup... And that's with receiveing E42,000,000 a year in TV money!

Livi in particular are in serious trouble - financial as well as on the pitch, I think - are very much in danger of going down and I would say aren't as good a team as Shels. About they only thing they have going for them, unfortunately, is games in Ibrox and Celtic Park. If Hoolahan does want to move cross-channel, I'd wait for a bigger team than Livi.

Alternatively, what's your rule about threads on the SPL?

**Mayo Red** · 22/12/2005, 8:10 PM

Originally Posted by stickyjoe

whatever about Byrne leaving to sign for a club at the top end of the Swedish League I think it would be a disaster for our league and for Hoolihan if he went to Livingston who are a dreadful team and involved in a two horse race for relegation to the illustrious Scottish First Division

However if he does sign for Livingston(BTW a franchise) listen to the Irish Media push for him to be called into the Irish squad

I'd have to agree. Outside of Celtic, Rangers and Hearts this season the SPL is uncompetitive and no great shakes.

**higgins** · 22/12/2005, 8:22 PM

and how would you rank the EL outside of Cork Derry and Shels last season?

You may not like it but Rangers Celtic and Hearts are actually part of the SPL

I know it doesnt seem real but it is.

SPL is better then EL,
Shels may be better then Livingston but playing for Livingston has more going for it in terms of moving upwards then Shels appears to have. How long should he wait in the EL for? Will the right club ever come knocking? Its worth a shot going to the SPL its not like its only a one way ticket.

**Soper** · 22/12/2005, 8:57 PM

To be honest, I feel that a move to them wouldn't be a wise one.I think the top players in the EL can make it in the English Championship easily, without a doubt, having seen numerous games of that standard.So in essence, Wes should be looking at a move to the Championship, which is well within his grasp, in my opinion, or even to a better placed team in Scotland.