Didn't Nuttsy say last night that hawkins was ok, it's 3 yellows to be suspended?Quote:
Originally Posted by EnDai
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Didn't Nuttsy say last night that hawkins was ok, it's 3 yellows to be suspended?Quote:
Originally Posted by EnDai
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Originally Posted by pete
That is all either player is capable of. We need to get our skillfull, talented players into the side like Hoolahan and Ndo instead of average players who are not capable of playing in a team looking to progress in Europe like Baker.Quote:
So did Baker
I was genuinely shocked at how poor Baker was. Given the talent in your squad, how does this guy get into the team? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
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Originally Posted by patsh
The alternative is Bobby Ryan who has been as bad. Personally I'd play Ndo out there with Mooire Byrne and Hoolahan, but Ndo seems to have disappeared off the face of the planet so god knows what's happening there.
Apparently Fahey is available, I wonder if we offered Ryan and Baker for him would Pats accept? We've plenty of cover and don't need two specialist right wingers when one, decent one could do.
Ryan did well against us last week. He helped set up Crowe's goal with a good pas and all night his passing was good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
He did some good things, he was involved in both goals alright, but he gave the ball away from sheer stupidity an incredible amount of times.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
IMO:
Delaney was good
Crawley was not
Hawkins always worries me - hes far to easy to lob - cant defend if he has to track back
Shels are a far better team with Heary in the side (he will play for Ireland soon)
Scouse does very little wrong but works better with Harris beside him
SByrne was missed
Hoolihan may be the secret weapon for the second half of next week
Moore was glory hunting in the 1st half but was far better in the second
Baker was decent 1st half but crap in the second - he didnt want the ball
Cahill was top class - he got past down the outside nearly every time & got the best crosses in
Crowe & Byrne both played well - they are working better together each week
Harris looked fitter than i would have expected - good news; & he put himself about well.
Fleming did well
I've forgotten someone
They could beat Steaua next week - get the ball down & play through the middle (& up the wing with Cahill) - Steaua will be expecting the long ball crap again & we have midfielders who can pass properly if they are let.
No, its defo 2. SOmeone posted the direct UEFA rulebook quote on SHelsweb.Quote:
Originally Posted by patsh
It is 3 in the group stages and 2 in the qualifiers so he is out of the return.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnDai
I was wondering about this.
Tolka Park is supposedly a 15,000 seater ( or so I was told), yet over and over again it was mentioned that it was a sellout and that all 8,000 seats were sold!
What is the real capacity of Tolka?
It's never 15,000 anyway!
Around 10,000.
9,700 I think is the official capacity, don't know where you are getting the 15,000 from.Quote:
Originally Posted by patsh
I think it was capped to 8,000 last night as it was open seating, although I couldn't see 1,700 empty seats.
I couldnt see 1 empty seat!
Which was espically suprisingly since the new stand was over full again with the stairs covered on the Riverside side and more than one person to a seat for a fair bit of it.
Ah there were a few to be fair. Even beside where i was in the Roadside there were three or four about but i doubt they summed to hundreds around the stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnDai
Hawkins out next week, thats why Harris was brought on. Needs match practice, as he will more than likely play next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by harry crumb
what positions were Steaua's interrnational players playing ? I though the blondy haired left back was good for them, especially in the 2nd half. Baker didnt stand a chance with him in the 2nd half and he seemed to be giving Heary a bit of hassle aswell.
i think shels missed a good chance last nite. played well in the first half but didnt come out at all in the second which was dissapointing.shels didnt lok like scoring. anytime the ball was on the wing for a cross there was one crowe in the box.was dissapointed with crowe, he looked off the pace the whole nite. i would have taken him off earlier. ollie cahill was superb and full of running. i think fenlons tactics will cost shels a place in the next round. steau will use every trick in the book out there to get throu. dont laugh but i think that nil all is better than 1-0 in so far as shels have to come and try and score as apposed to sitting back for most of the game.
[QUOTE=CuanaD]IMO:
Delaney was good
Crawley was not
Hawkins always worries me - hes far to easy to lob - cant defend if he has to track back
Shels are a far better team with Heary in the side (he will play for Ireland soon)
Scouse does very little wrong but works better with Harris beside him
SByrne was missed
Hoolihan may be the secret weapon for the second half of next week
Moore was glory hunting in the 1st half but was far better in the second
Baker was decent 1st half but crap in the second - he didnt want the ball
Cahill was top class - he got past down the outside nearly every time & got the best crosses in
Crowe & Byrne both played well - they are working better together each week
Harris looked fitter than i would have expected - good news; & he put himself about well.
Fleming did well
I've forgotten someone
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well if scouse is rodgers then youve forgotten crawford
While no Shels fans will agree with any criticisms of their golden boy, the player at the back most guilty of hoofing aimlessly was Owen Heary. What more do you expect from rubbish players like the other 3 defenders.
They were all guilty of it.
in fairness if shels got a 1-0 lead they would have went to romania trying to defend it. one goal isnt much, if shels score one out there i will consider the first leg a good result.
Steaua threw the kitchen sink at shels and we did very well AFAIK. Fair enough the pitch is going to be a lot wider out there but if we can hit them on the break and there is going to be more space for our players.
If Steaua were down 1 nill they might crack a bit. Nutsy has to put out our best 11 though and a proper formation to get a scoring draw or even a win.
What is the story with Ndo. He has been off injured in one form since last years champions league games
Well the great thing about 0-0 is we wont panic if they score over there. If anything, conceding first could in a funny way may help us. If they get the first goal they may sit back and all it takes is one moment for us to nick a goal and that could be us through on away goals.
I'm surprised by some of the comments in this thread. I thought Steaua were a class above Shels for most of the game and had they taken more shots, I'd say they would have likely scored. Shels defended well, especially Rogers who I thought was brilliant. Crawford, Baker and Cahill were poor I thought, especially Baker. The crossing from both wings was really bad, they didn't give Crowe a chance at all.
Playing 1 up front didn't work because the midfield were incapable of holding onto the ball so Steaua were able to put Shels under pressure at will. With another option up front it would have been easier for Shels to get the ball forward (other than by aimless hoofs) and hold onto it rather than have Crowe surrounded by three defenders whenever the he got the ball. Harris did well I thought. Given the 'tactics' (i.e. long hoofs), his heading and strength with the ball was much more useful up front.
If Shels bring Ndo and Hoolahan (unwell according to the radio) into the midfield, play two up front, hold onto the ball in midfield and stop whacking the ball aimlessly upfield they have a chance of nicking a goal in the away leg but I think Steaua will be too strong. They were very impressive at times last night and at home and with a bit more urgency, it's difficult to see Shels holding them. Hope I'm wrong though!
None of the shels support seem to think Ollie had a bad game. I certainly did. I was beginning to think i had seen it from the wrong perspective or something until you posted. The incident at the end where he stopped chasing a ball (presumably because he thought he heard a whistle) summed up his game. He seemed edgy and nervous and made a lot of 'unforced errors'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
I did tooQuote:
Originally Posted by fosterdollar
He was better than he usually was. I think with more bodies in the box he could have created something, he was one of the few pushing forward even in injury time he was beating their full back and trying to create something.
So what about this leg then lads?
Not confident at all, looks like the same team again. That means Cahill and Baker as our main creative outlets, that means no chance barring a miracle.
Hoolahan will come on with 20 minutes to go apparently, I hope it's mind games from Fenlon and he's not injured at all (How can a stomach bug make you miss a full week of football!?) as if it's not we're in for a rough time. We'll need somehow to be level of 1 down when he comes on to try and change the game for us.
Looks like Ndo will once more be ignored with no explanation given whatsoever. Sure why not, when you've quality like Richie Baker you can afford to leave someone like Ndo out :confused:
I would certainly not play Baker again. His marker was a big lad who won everything sent out to him. I'd have played Ndo. I remember with your 1-1 draw with us in Belfield he drifted out to the wide right for about 20 mins and was devestating. He'd certainly have more of a chance of receiving passes out to the wing.
Id say the talk of leaving wes on the bench is mind games.
Ndo has disappeared off the face of the planet, Fenlon just wont pick him, lunacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
I hope the Wes thing is mind games, it wouldn't be the first time Fenlon has done something like that.
Hope i'm wrong here but just cant see shels beating that team out there. and another thing that left back crawley want to look up with he hoots the ball down the wing and try to pick some one out any more :D
People have said it for years, that's all he's capable of doing.
I'd like Shels to do well but i don't give them any hope tonight.
Last season Shels played better than Deportivo in Dublin only to lose 0-3 away. This season Steaua outplayed Shels for long periods in Dublin so by same logic shouldn't have many problems in Romania.
The main reason they 'outplayed' us was we got increasingly negative as the game went on. The first half we were the better team if anything.
I agree Pete. I think Steaua looked much classier in Tolka but played well within themselves. They will be a totally different proposition at home tonight. Shels could ship another 3 tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
The problem is Shels will have to adopt those negative tactics tonight too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
I got Soccernet.com (world's most popular football website) to run with a story on the Steau game (and our European results to-date) :
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/feature?id=338013&cc=5739
Any feedback to the address at the end of the article greatfully received (even if it is negative !), as it encourages them to think there's interest in covering more Irish football.
Thanks.