Funny it's the same here, can't wait for Derry, but wish it was in Finn Park.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
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Funny it's the same here, can't wait for Derry, but wish it was in Finn Park.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
At least you won't have any problems if you need to go for a ****!Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
Even though Institute play only 5-6 miles from the Brandywell, to me our real derby is always playing Finn Harps, much more enjoyable game!
Another cup for us! :D
Same, enjoy a run to Finn Park. Hope we get you in the cup down thereQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Fifth time playing Sligo in cups in just over two years and haven't won once - can't see it changing with Roddy's youth selection policy for the competition either.
Big replay hopefully so ;PQuote:
Originally Posted by Aaron
How Bray are regionalised with us and Pats and UCD are regionalised with the Langers and Lims I don't know.
I can see your point it should be Cork, Limerick, Waterford, Wexford, Bray and 1 south Dublin team. There are no overnight trips like Waterford-Finn Harps or Cork-Derry (at least untill the draw is a open draw)Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Im disappointing to get Limerick, i would have preferred to play pats or UCD. I just hope we don't get Limerick in the cup either.
i say just dont bother with regions
So you want Derry/Finn Harps or Fanad away on a Monday night? You could travel by public bus again lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
what difference is it after the first round? We could draw Derry in the quarters or semis easily enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by citybone
I suppose the regions make sense for the non league teams (which makes no sense by the way - its the League Cup), asking them to travel cross country is a bit harsh and if they get through a coupe of rounds the gates would pay for the travel expenses.
I don't have a problem with the regionalised early rounds. The competition has become an inconvenience in the last few years and attendances are fairly paltry so anything that keeps the costs down at all is only beneficial overall IMO.
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Originally Posted by sadloserkid
Yeah, right enough so many clubs can turn up their noses at the extra gates and the prize money.
The League cup is a horrible competition, I mean, being able to give reserve and under 19's players a competitive game when there is no reserve league anymore is a disgrace.
Seriously though, if they made it regionalised groups with every team playing each other once and top 1 or 2 go through to next round would be much more beneficial. Our under 19's are 3 points away from winning the league, we have some cracking players that would maybe need another year or 2 before coming into the first team, we face the prospect of losing around 8 players from that 19's squad who are overage next year as we have no games to offer them.
If we had a guaranteed 3 or 6 league cup games to offer them game time it would go some way to convincing them to stay at the club.
It's not as if the regionalised system means your travelling more than 2 hours to an away game.
Ah I suppose you were right. I forgot that there's no extra cost at all involved in travelling to these games if away, running them if you're at home, paying for officials and whatever else. The gates are pitiful and the prize money isn't much better. The League Cup is many things but a money spinner it is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by MariborKev
Regionalised is the ONLY way to go.
.......probobly the same clubs that bad mouth the Setanta Cup. Sure its no problem, we will just all win the LeagueQuote:
Originally Posted by MariborKev
....or get a rich sugardaddy :o
Tell the truth, you'd love one. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
:sigh:Quote:
Originally Posted by MariborKev
What are ye doing with eight about to be overage players that aren't going to be good enough for the senior team??Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Heggy
:DQuote:
If we had a guaranteed 3 or 6 league cup games to offer them game time it would go some way to convincing them to stay at the club.
8 players who will be overage next season for the 19's but not physically strong enough for a full season in the 1st Division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
If they are part of the squad all season though and can be offered a number of competitive games it would go some way to keeping them at the club.
Should be able to offer them competitive games in the league tbf. The Division is probably going to be hoss again next year. (assuming Harps don't get promoted!)
We've four or five under 19s involved in the senior setup this year, as well as two or three fairly regulars who only came up last year and are probably going to have a look at at least two of the four over agers I'd say.
I have no doubt whatsoever in my mind that within a month there will be 4 or 5 of our u-19's in the senior setup, which also worries me considering how young most of our squad is in the first place.
The likes of Gary Merritt, Martin Redmond, Shaun Patton, Stephen Rodden and Shane McGinty have all had first team appearances and those type of players will no doubt be amongst the first team for the rest of the season too with possibly 2 or 3 of said players being first team regulars.
It's much easier to introduce young players into an experienced side, when you've already a team with 2 19 year old centre backs, a 20 year old keeper and a 20 year old left back it's not going to help the new lads coming in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
In 2004 we introduced 4 or 5 young lads into the squad but they came in with a top side that won the league.
One ? we need several at this stage :sick:Quote:
Originally Posted by sadloserkid
Last 16 fixtures to be played Mon/Tues 9th / 10th April
Limerick - Cork
St Pats - UCD
Derry - Finn Harps
Sligo - Monaghan
SD Galway - Shamrock Rovers
Shelbourne - Bray
Drogheda - Bohemians
Longford - Dundalk
Any early indications of team news on these games much appreciated as I try to get one over on the bookies!!
I thought Monaghan were certs to play a weakened team but not so, according to Roddy ....
http://www.northernsound.ie/sports-details.php?nid=2048
i'd say it'll be longford's 2nd team most likely. Can not see him risking the main men, and I think a few of our subs are pretty dirt.
Saying that I doubt Dundalk's second string would be much better?
I hope to god Scully gives a few under 19s a run and lets them try play football. After tonights performance a few senior players need a kick up the hole and a few u19's deserve their chance to prove themselves.
I hope to god Scully will be gone by Monday. We are going nowhere with that bluffer.
Hard to know what side SmcC will put out against Longford.
Did i fall on me head a while back or do i remember a rule in this competition that basicaly says that clubs have to put out a certain amount of 1st team squad players in Leauge cup matches or something like that:confused:
As long as they have a squad number they're first team. Don't remember hearing a rule existed. Certainly most clubs play 'experimental' teams
For Pats, Buckley has said there'll be a 'mix & match' kinda team
I would imagine some of our u19's will get a run out for this. We could be using thema whole lot more this season because at least with them they give their all for the club.
Monday fixtures and betting
Derry City 2/9 Draw 9/2 Finn Harps 8/1 (2pm ko)
SD Galway 11/1 Draw 5/1 Shams R 1/6 (3pm ko)
Shelbourne 8/15 Draw 12/5 Bray W 5/1 (3pm ko)
St.Pats.Ath 8/15 Draw 12/5 UCD 5/1 (3pm ko)
Limerick 7/5 Draw 11/5 Cork 8/5 (4pm ko)
Sligo R 1/6 Draw 5/1 Mons 11/1 (6.30 ko)
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Tuesday fixtures and betting
Longford T 11/10 Draw 11/5 Dundalk 21/10 (8pm ko)
Drog.U 4/6 Draw 12/5 BohemianFC 7/2 (8pm ko)
(pp betting)
Dundalk are quite generous at 21/10 we'll probably be playing our second choice team. Dundalk may be too I guess but almost double our odds seems a bit high.
I will be holding off on having a bet on any of these matches until i see the team sheets or get a tip from somebody.
I think UCD are decent value at 5/1 to beat a second string Pats side
Second string or "mix and match"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
You know, I'd almost be tempted to stick a few quid on a Derry - Harps draw at 9/2.
I don't think anyone who started Friday will start Monday. The mix and match bit may be u19s (as the Leisnter Senior Cup was)Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
We'll see
Aye, you lot are in form and we aren't. And we are struggling with injuries as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Exactly my thoughts, could be a famous victory, or could be more horrible embarrassment for Harps fans. Either way, we'll make a bit of noise and enjoy our short trip up the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by MariborKev
You have been talking to Alex Ferguson again Kevin about the mind games. I have been watching us against you boys for to long now to take it that because you have a few injuries we have the upper hand. Not should you have Dobbin the horse in nets and widow Twinkie up front will I take a win for granted. Still would be nice to finally get one over you at Brandywell.Quote:
Originally Posted by MariborKev