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why would larne go amateur, or want to? i should point out larne were never relegated on the pitch and have 2 senior cup finals and a few semis under their belts in the last 7 years.
what about the likes of distillery, dungannon, newry and institute? do they go amateur as well or is there space in your 2 leagues for them?
can derry city play in the same league as linfield etc? according to other posts on this forum and others there might be trouble (rolls eyes).
and belfast celtic to come back and straight into a top ail??
coleraine, crues, ballymena and the ports all in a second division? behind who in a top league? (i think you previously mentioned c'ville down there too, not to mention you would probably turf glenavon in there).
so basically you picked 2 of the biggest teams on the whole island, plus another who say they still can't play with the first 2 and some historical society thats not even a football club to fill the NI spaces in a fantasy AIL?

i think you've been on the funny pills tbh.

wow - this thread has turned to muck awful fast...

not surprising given the original post.

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Originally Posted by backtowalsall

I would envisiage 4, if Belfast Celtic were to be re-formed.

Linfield, Derry, Glentoran and BC. Possibly with The likes of Crusaders, Portadown, Ballymena, Coleraine in a division below (which in fairness would probably be dominated by NI teams).

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Belfast Celtic aren't going to be re-formed.

There already is a "Celtic" Club, based in West Belfast, playing in the IL.

Quite apart from anything else, why should a Club spring up out of nowhere, to take it's place at the top table - that's insulting to every other Club on the island.:rolleyes:

So basically, we're down to two IL Clubs - Linfield and Glentoran - in an AI Premier League...Derry City are a LOI Club.

So you think that the effective addition of Linfield and Glentoran to the current top tier in the LOI is going to be the saviour of Club football on this island?:eek:

Considering AI leagues outwith a "Premier" league is a complete non-starter.

How would a mid table clash, in a second tier, between say Institute and Waterford, benefit either Club?:confused:

Is the All ireland league for rugby working? if so, can this be used as a framework for the all ireland football league?

Perhaps it can be organised similar to the way the conference league was organised, into 2 sections north and south, and then play offs.

Hmm. If it's all so 'offensive' to our unionist 'friends', why even come on here? It's not as if we can even reciprocate on your equivalent, such is the collective paranoia on there. Although entirely typical.

You should listen to Back to Walsall, but if not....
If you want to continue in your own spiral of low achievement in both club & representative football fine.

Normally, we wouldnt be bothered, but recent events and our own cycle shortly reaching a relative low it means neither team will be going near finals for a decade or so;which a combined team could do something to counter.

It'll just be a question of who reaches the relative bottom first......

Jesus lads, not another thread about this!

As far as i'm concerned the 'international' team arguement was sorted when the eligibility issue was sorted.

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Originally Posted by co. down green

Jesus lads, not another thread about this!

As far as i'm concerned the 'international' team arguement was sorted when the eligibility issue was sorted.

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Absolutely correct.

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Hmm. If it's all so 'offensive' to our unionist 'friends', why even come on here?

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Err...maybe because Northern Ireland fans (not exclusively Unionist) might have an opinion about their team disappearing.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Err...maybe because Northern Ireland fans (not exclusively Unionist) might have an opinion about their team disappearing.:rolleyes:

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Why would anyone be worried about that!!;)

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Err...maybe because Northern Ireland fans (not exclusively Unionist) might have an opinion about their team disappearing.:rolleyes:

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By your same (twisted) logic the Republic of Ireland fans should be worried about their team 'disappearing' too.

Your argument holds no standing whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by stiffler

By your same (twisted) logic the Republic of Ireland fans should be worried about their team 'disappearing' too.

Your argument holds no standing whatsoever.

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:D

"Twisted logic"

You guys like the Rugby analogy - how's about a British & Irish team - sure we'd rule the world.

Go on then, enlighten me as to what's in it for Northern Ireland fans.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Quite apart from anything else, why should a Club spring up out of nowhere, to take it's place at the top table - that's insulting to every other Club on the island.:rolleyes:

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Tell that to Sporting Fingal :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Err...maybe because Northern Ireland fans (not exclusively Unionist) might have an opinion about their team disappearing.:rolleyes:

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Should we be flattered that we could somehow effect this?
You lot really are paranoid! ;) Still we'll welcome you 'aboard' when it happens!


Anyway , somehow Delaney & Kennedy are hardly likely to ever consult us on this. Though If FIFA were to insist on this it would probably be the only good thing they ever did.....

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

You guys like the Rugby analogy - how's about a British & Irish team - sure we'd rule the world.

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Ah the Lions. Hmm. You lot even support them since they changed their name??

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

. Though If FIFA were to insist on this it would probably be the only good thing they ever did.....

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More likely an All United Kingdom team - if some within FIFA get their way.

No thanks.

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

:D

"Twisted logic"

Go on then, enlighten me as to what's in it for Northern Ireland fans.:rolleyes:

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Your the one using that as a reason for not wanting it, not I. I myself am neither for or against one team in this island at this stage. By de facto, we already have this situation with Gibson, Wilson et al available for the Republic.

It seems a lot of northern ireland fans have little man syndrome!

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Ah the Lions. Hmm. You lot even support them since they changed their name??

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Absolutely.

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Originally Posted by stiffler

By de facto, we already have this situation with Gibson, Wilson et al available for the Republic.

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Exactly...so let it go.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Exactly...so let it go.:rolleyes:

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Troll

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

More likely an All United Kingdom team - if some within FIFA get their way.

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Well it would be quite funny given the amount of gurning about their British 'identity', I've always encountered from large sections of your fanbase. Though to be fair, not most of the people on here.

If it happens, don't say we didn't offer....
;)

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Originally Posted by stiffler

Troll

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Imagine anyone having a different opinion to you, expessing it.:eek:

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Well it would be quite funny given the amount of gurning about their British 'identity', I've always encountered from large sections of your fanbase. Though to be fair, not most of the people on here.

If it happens, don't say we didn't offer....
;)

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Thanks...choice is a wonderful thing.;)

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Imagine anyone having a different opinion to you, expessing it.:eek:

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Nope not that at all.

You are the one who said that north fans are worried about their team 'disappearing', I pointed out that this argument holds no water, then you respond by telling me to let it go!!

I repeat this again, I am not interested in one team on the island at present, i believe that we already have that to an extent. You can keep your team, however you would need to examine your small man syndrome which is so prevalent in all your posts.

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Originally Posted by stiffler

You can keep your team, however you would need to examine your small man syndrome which is so prevalent in all your posts.

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Thanks for allowing us to keep our team.:)

Nothing "small man" about it - just a proud, patriotic, Northern Ireland, fan.

Should I apologise for that?:eek:

I notice, that rather than deal with the substantive issues in the discussion, and pertinent questions asked, you play the man...rather than the ball.:rolleyes:

quit with your obviously trolling posts ardeebhoy. your disdain is quite plain for all to see and your arguments as weak as dishwater, yet most are veering toward insults.
either set aside your prejudice and use of mythical stereotypes and make a reasonable argument or give posting a miss altogether.

Wouldn't work. Let the bigots have their own team.

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Originally Posted by MeathDrog

Wouldn't work. Let the bigots have their own team.

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I would think the evidence suggests bigots exist in both team's support.

How's about, live and let live.

Perhaps, when Northern Ireland fans (supporters of Portadown FC) are at your next love in, you'll be so brave as to tell them they're bigots for being Northern Ireland fans.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Thanks for allowing us to keep our team.:)

Nothing "small man" about it - just a proud, patriotic, Northern Ireland, fan.

Should I apologise for that?:eek:

I notice, that rather than deal with the substantive issues in the discussion, and pertinent questions asked, you play the man...rather than the ball.:rolleyes:

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What's this nonsense about man and ball? you were proved to be talking absolute codswallop and you try and beaver your way out of it?!

I think i made my point abundantly clear in the last post.

Now enough of your trolling!

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Originally Posted by stiffler

What's this nonsense about man and ball? you were proved to be talking absolute codswallop and you try and beaver your way out of it?!

I think i made my point abundantly clear in the last post.

Now enough of your trolling!

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Oh - you knocked me out with thon Sporting Fingal witty...the word desperation springs to mind.

I think you're struggling here.:o

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

I would think the evidence suggests bigots exist in both team's support.

How's about, live and let live.

Perhaps, when Northern Ireland fans (supporters of Portadown FC) are at your next love in, you'll be so brave as to tell them they're bigots for being Northern Ireland fans.:rolleyes:

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When I said 'The bigots' I wasn't referring to all NI fans. I was referring to the bigots who happen to do support them. 'live and let live', yeah, easier said than done.

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Originally Posted by -lamb-

quit with your obviously trolling posts ardeebhoy. your disdain is quite plain for all to see and your arguments as weak as dishwater, yet most are veering toward insults.
either set aside your prejudice and use of mythical stereotypes and make a reasonable argument or give posting a miss altogether.

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Yes, I have disdain for Northern bigots in my own country, who I've encountered often with their own prejudiced opinions about Irish people or Catholics, without them knowing my own opinions or sympathies. So I do speak from some experience.

And hence my 'prejudice', whilst 'stereotypes' can hardly apply when it relates to a minority(?) of hard-core unionists, which unsurprisingly taint a wider view.


Should add these are more 'tongue-in-cheek', when used by me to describe the wider unionist community, though they never fail to surprise me with their, er, siege mentality.
Be it their football team, some pointless march or some other superfluous aspect of their culture.

So please be mindful why people have reservations. And why I for one feel 'insulted'.

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

I would think the evidence suggests bigots exist in both team's support.

How's about, live and let live.

Perhaps, when Northern Ireland fans (supporters of Portadown FC) are at your next love in, you'll be so brave as to tell them they're bigots for being Northern Ireland fans.:rolleyes:

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I don't remember the Dubs having a riot before, during and after a game with Poland last year, can you think of any country that did? Hmmmm....

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Originally Posted by MeathDrog

When I said 'The bigots' I wasn't referring to all NI fans. I was referring to the bigots who happen to do support them. 'live and let live', yeah, easier said than done.

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There's bigots who happen to support the ROI...doesn't mean I wish to broadbrush those whom I know to be perfectly reasonable people.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

There's bigots who happen to support the ROI...doesn't mean I wish to broadbrush those whom I know to be perfectly reasonable people.:rolleyes:

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That's true, but I just get the impression that there would be quite a few people within the 6 counties who would not take too kindly to supporting an All-Ireland team.

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Originally Posted by galwayjames

I don't remember the Dubs having a riot before, during and after a game with Poland last year, can you think of any country that did? Hmmmm....

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Aye, them Poles are innocent. The evidence from Bratislava (and numerous other venues in Europe) would suggest their hoolies came to Belfast looking for a quiet pint and an Ulster Fry.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

There's bigots who happen to support the ROI...doesn't mean I wish to broadbrush those whom I know to be perfectly reasonable people.:rolleyes:

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Actually we have very few;What you'd prefer to think of your 'Mope'/'Taig' types, especially from the nationalist community, all tend to support Celtic.
Or maybe a 'neutral' PL team.....
;)

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Yes, I have disdain for Northern bigots in my own country, who I've encountered often with their own prejudiced opinions about Irish people or Catholics, without them knowing my own opinions or sympathies. So I do speak from some experience.

And hence my 'prejudice', whilst 'stereotypes' can hardly apply when it relates to a minority(?) of hard-core unionists, which unsurprisingly taint a wider view.


Should add these are more 'tongue-in-cheek', when used by me to describe the wider unionist community, though they never fail to surprise me with their, er, siege mentality.
Be it their football team, some pointless march or some other superfluous aspect of their culture.

So please be mindful why people have reservations. And why I for one feel 'insulted'.

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whatever....if you can't make a sensible reply without snide comments you aren't worth replying to.
nice form of sneaky censorship you got going there. i'll just go back to the "bigots" forum now shall i, since constant twisted insults aren't really my thing....
sort it out mods. you're tough enough when you want to be.

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Aye, them Poles are innocent. The evidence from Bratislava (and numerous other venues in Europe) would suggest they're hoolies came to Belfast looking for a quiet pint and an Ulster Fry.:rolleyes:

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If you didn't start it fair enough, but you can't deny throwing a coin at the linesman, booing Boruc's every move, engaging in numerous fights in certain areas of Belfast.

Ye hardly helped the situation :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by MeathDrog

That's true, but I just get the impression that there would be quite a few people within the 6 counties who would not take too kindly to supporting an All-Ireland team.

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Err...yeah!:eek:

Northern Ireland supporters, funnily enough, support the Northern Ireland team. It's a shocker, eh?

:eek:

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Err...yeah!:eek:

Northern Ireland supporters, funnily enough, support the Northern Ireland team. It's a shocker, eh?

:eek:

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So what's your point then??