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This was my e-mail:
I love the game of football, but I am seriously considering boycotting the World Cup this year. I have no problem when a team loses due to a legitimate goal.
However, cheating cannot be tolerated, and by saying no to a replay, you are rewarding the French for cheating- what kind of message is this sending to children around the world?
There is still a chance for redemption. Stand up and make the right decision.
Yours in football,
XXXXXXXX
I really don't think blowing kisses will make any difference.
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Originally Posted by irishfan86
Grrrrrrr.......French Fries should be re-named Freedom Fries!
Sh!t happens lads get over it.
Had that been Doyler or Keano we would of taken it...Ireland had more than enough chances to win that game...there is always mistakes by referees in football and his decision is final...what makes ye think the rules will be changed for us ?:confused:
to hell with a replay. it's stupid, we'd lose, and it'd be a crap way to qualify. THAT SAID, if there is a precedent (Uzbekistan was it?) then fifa should explain the wherefores.
INSTEAD DEMAND VIDEO TECHNOLOGY BE INTRODUCED.
ban divers, ban cheats and violent tacklers, and clean up the bloody game. it's beyond a joke in its current form.
A protest? Jesus wept - FFS sake at the end of the day its football, and the FAI cup is on this weekend so get over it.
People wont protest over the state of the country run into the grounds by FF but will over a football match - bizzare
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/footba...rticle/213171/
Really, wow he fooled me then:(Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
So far we've had people say they hope Henry ends up like Robert Enke or he gets both legs broken
We've broken Facebook with bitter groups about Thierry Henry
We've dragged out every talking head from Lee Dixon to Tony Cascarino as proof that the football world is behind us
There's been calls for boycotting Gilette
An e mail campaign against FIFA
Accusations of match fixing from everyone from Platini to capitalism itself
Now there's a protest march on the French Embassy
I've also been told some Irish aren't buying French cuisine produce (or at leats have said they won't)
and I hate to think what other nonsense is in the pipeline
You all sound like a mix between Daily Mail readers and the type of American who called french fries Freedom fries
Basically you're embarrassing the country so please stop.
It was an unjust decision, and Henry cheated, but it happens in football, you've probably cheered an equally unjust decision for your team in your time, so please just move on and start focussing on things like getting the Don Givens out, pretty please
I know i'll get called a wum by some but honestly it's been very cringeworthy being Irish these past two days. What good will the Irish had after Wednesday night is slowly starting to evaporate with all this bitterness
Good for you. You are a hero and a legend.Quote:
Originally Posted by rambler14
Ireland can not complain about the FIFA fair play rule.
Did ye not see Robbie Keanes complete dive over by the sideline and he won the free ?
Does that not count as cheating I was ashamed to be a supporter of the team when I saw that.
Tell that guy in the frog suit (if that's what it is) who was on the news this evening beside the megaphone guy to stay away tomorrow. Now that is embarrassing.
Signed up on the petition ran by The Star today.
Thers is no point in protests or online petitions. In the world of sport we know that bad decisions happen and that there is nothing we can do about it. It's time to let it go and accept the fact that we won't be going to the World Cup.
I'd personally like to see Henry get a three-match ban for unsportsmanlike conduct but that should be the end of it.
Having said that, some of the people on here have expressed themselves in pretty sanctimonious terms about this (sorry we embarrass you so much, Jebus). I think they need to look at themselves as well when it comes to the International team.
It's soul destroying. Went to landsdowne in 2004. Keane played a blinder but Henri beat us fair and square. Walking home with my father we consoled ourselves that we were beaten by a moment of brilliance by the best player in the world. I was blaming poor McShane till I saw the replay. Looking at the replay horrified me. He betrayed the greatest game on earth. All I can do now is stop using Gillette, which I'll do! Also, as many of us predicted 2 weeks ago the ref was appaling. One genius said 2 weeks ago that he " makes baby Jesus cry ". Brilliant.
we already have been awarded one.Quote:
Originally Posted by CMcC
any ideas of a protest march are a complete embarassment. a meassge to joe duffy, gerry ryan, irish polititians et al.... please stop hijacking our team for your own needs
Let's complain, if only for the future use of Video Replays as the best possible outcome.
And that Henry fails in the rest of his career.
The lack of passion about and acceptance of his blatant cheating in this thread is embarassing.
I disagree entirely.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
What would you prefer, we lie down and take this injustice??!
The country as a whole feels cheated. On a financial, morale, pride level this would have been huge for the country. We're not like the big nations, we're not blessed with large resources of players, qualification for the WC is a remote possibility for us as opposed to a real probablity. We were denied at least the prospect of a penalty shoot out to qualify for the finals.
The Irish fans behavedly impeccably on wed night, despite taunting from some quarters when leaving the stadium (admittedly that was a minority), but considering the mood it couldve been ugly. In general the campaign calling for the replay has been carried out with dignity and an element of fairness at its heart. The worldwide reaction to the incident justifys our cause.
We wont get a replay, its not right, the WC chance is gone but at least we made our voice heard and the whole world listened. :ball:
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Originally Posted by jebus
99% of what you've pointed out in your first paragraph are totally ridiculous ideas......every sane fan would agree with you......that goes without saying (that's why all but reactionary knee-jerkers like yourself don't bother reacting to these suggestions). I'll let you guess what the 1% is btw. It's a very small minority who actually believe all this crap.
Your repetitive garbage about the "Daily Mail" (you seem to know an awful lot about it....I've never read it) and "freedom fries" just shows you up to be someone with a chip on your shoulder about lots of stuff who's lazily decided to roll it all up together and throw it all at people about this issue.
Nobody can do anything about your embarrassment....that's a problem you'll have to deal with yourself.....personally I've never been embarrassed....something to do with self awareness......you may get it as you mature.
"It was an unjust decision, and Henry cheated"
This is one of the only correct things you've said. This is what people are upset about. Let them be. Of course we'll all move on and get over it.....we have to. Very few will march on the embassy.....don't worry, no need to be embarrassed.
I don't know if WUM is the right word for you. I think you're just someone who is enjoying the opportunity of coming across as the contrary opinion on an internet forum.
One thing you've completely failed to grasp is the significance of this story across the football world and believe me it's not being driven by a few mad posters on foot.ie.
Regarding your cringing and embarrassment problem..........it may help if you face your fears head on...stand up and spout some of your nonsense in the real world, after much ridicule your feeling of embarassment will eventually fade.
Look back at the sum of your posts over the last few days (you will do) and realise there may be something better to devote your energies to than railing at passionate sincere fans who are feeling a lot of raw hurt over an injustice that has been inflicted on them. They (I and all of us) will get over it but most of your recent posts will always be.........what's the word i'm looking for........embarrassing.
BTW, the 1% is...you don't hate to think what other nonsense is in the pipeline......you actually hope there is more nonsense in the pipeline..otherwise you'll run out of reasons to get off on your embarrassment.
They were just initial reactions, no sane person would wish such things on someone for taking advantage of a situation like he didQuote:
Originally Posted by jebus
So...how many foot.ie members were part of the 100 who marched on the embassy?
Sorry you are wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by corkboy360
You know as well as I do, if Keane or Doyle did it, the linesman would have seen it, the ref would have seen it, and most of all the 4th official would have seen it on a monitor and whispered in the refs ear, as per the Zidane sending off in the world cup.
Why is it Robbie Keane was pulled up everytime he handled the ball in the match?
But when Henry handles the ball, he is allowed away with it.
One law for Ireland, another for France.
Why wasn't Anelka given a penalty when there was clearly contact between himself and Given?Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmet7
If there was a conspiracy, that was the perfect opportunity for the refs to "give in" to FIFA.
I wrote another post on another thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
You know that every ref is watched by a referee's commission that decides if they will be fit for officiating at next year's world cup.
This ref undoubtedly wanted to go to South Africa, right?
Now throughout 90 minutes he is very good makes all the right decisions, nothing too dodgy or anything that would jeprodise his trip to the world cup.
Into extra time and still no sign of France scoring and it's looking like penalties. The ref is hoping not to have to make a bad decision but also that France win since it's been clear for months that FIFA want France to qualify.
Then the dodgy goal and the ref is left with a decision.
Disallow the goal and let the matter be decided on the lottery of penalties or allow the goal and stay in favour with FIFA.
yet the team with the biggest population in the playoffs is out.
What has population to do with anything? Indonesia didn't qualify either and they have twice the population of Russia. It's to do with TV rights and sponsorship, in short money and France were in these terms miles ahead of anyone else in the play-offs.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishultra
If people are seriously suggesting that the likes of Blatter a businessman, not a sports person isn't capable of influencing results to ensure his profit margins are considerably higher this year then they really need to wake up. You are talking about tens of millions of dollars in difference here.
Just look at the series of disgraceful refereeing decisions that ensured the home nation South Korea got to the semis of the 2002 world cup and you'll see Fifa have previous in this regard.
YI,
Have you not a grassy knoll to be investigating?
The penalty claim was made in the first-half of extra time. It would have been a penalty and he could have sent Given off as well, making it easier for France. It was the perfect opportunity for him to "do what he's told", as you claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmet7
That's why I don't believe the refs were trying to push France over the finish line. In fact, I felt Ireland got a lot of 50-50's in the match and he did have a very good game, except for two big decisions, one which went our way and one which went against us.
I've said it before: one missed decision is being blown out of proportion so Irish fans can have a reason to complain and say: "Oh, life is so unfair". After all, what Irish person doesn't like to whinge?
What irks me just as much is that much of the protest is being led by people who only a few weeks ago looked down their noses at Irish football, if they even looked at it at all.
The only comfort I can take from all this is that the BIG are back, and held in high regard again.
Did that go ahead?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbod
I must have missed the Worldwide outrage and blanket news coverage we were promised.
Don't be silly - this isn't a World Cup playoff match we're talking about here - it's a tinpot little thing masquerading as the National Cup - no doubt played between two teams of plumbers, electricians, milkmen, the unemployed - on a ploughed field in the middle of nowhere to be watched by 3 men and a dog.Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
Now - if it happened in the Bolton vs. Blackburn game this afternoon - then that's a different story altogether
If Sligo or Fingal lose to a handball will they get a replay?
Only if the offending team is so embarrassed by the crassness of the offence that they offer a replay. Unlikely as everyone knows.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry on here sometimesQuote:
Originally Posted by Emmet7
some wacko on the radio this morning demanding a street name change for henry street in dublin :D
It was four decisions. Two offsides and two handballs. The penalty was an obvious dive. Maybe he was hoping a better opportunity to ease France through would come along at that stage of the game. Perhaps he didn't realise the handball was as blatant as it actually was. Who knows but either way we have been cheated by the corporate executives at Fifa.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
I actually don't care for a replay but people dismissing it as conspiracy that Fifa are not capable of ensuring that France had as much help as possible and that they get their tens of millions in revenue are as naive as they come and know nothing about football and it's history (or sports in general). I didn't think the ref was particularly good either. He gave the French free kicks out everytime there was a 50/50 near their box.
I disagree. It was a perfect opportunity for him to give France a peno and also reduce Ireland to ten men and surely guaranteeing France a safe passage and satisfying his bosses, as theorists claim he wanted to do. Yet he didn't do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
If the conspiracy theory held any weight, he would have not only given France the penalty and a brilliant chance to score but he would also have sent off our keeper, who is head and shoulders above what was on the bench.
If he knew the clock was ticking down and he had to get the ball into the net for the French, he would've given the peno as it actually looked like a believable one. The replay shows there was contact.
From what I've seen, he couldn't see the incident.Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
Should he automatically assume players are cheating whenever he can't see the play?
Is he supposed to discredit the goal just because the team which conceded start screaming that it was handball?
He didn't see the handball and he wasn't told anything by his linesman. All he saw was the ball go in the net. He's seen nothing to think it was illegal. What is he expected to do?
No worse than some of the stuff I've seen on here these past few days to be fairQuote:
Originally Posted by roinuj
Stop the game, go to the touchline, phone some pub in the middle of rural Offaly and ask the Landlord to take a vote amongst his customers watching the match?Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
How about organising a series of demonatrations and interuptions at the world cup finals, ie a green lepracaun running onto the pitch, grabbing the ball and throwing it into the French net?
That would give Blatter something to think about.
WUM
But still no no and no. There is a proper means to make a reasoned argument for change to prevent the injustice that occured but certainly not in the way you have suggested.
Blatter ruined our tournement, I don't see why shouldn't ruin his.
It would be something to look forward to at the finals and shame FIFA.