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23/02/2008, 6:04 PM
noddy102

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Your right, my English is poor (sic)

Well, your point is that Arsenal would have had some suspensions from previous similar tackles. I take your point.

But, I make the point that, if there was some sort of effort made to root out such tackles and then try and keep some form of consistency with refereeing decisions, then maybe players would stop trying such ridiculous reckless challenges.

Of course, the slow midfielders and centre-halves will always have to attempt lunges/stretches for the ball, but the sort of carry on that Taylor did today HAS to go.
23/02/2008, 6:05 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by noddy102

but the sort of carry on that Taylor did today HAS to go.

Agree completely, and I wasn't disagreeing with your intial point either
23/02/2008, 6:43 PM
rambler14

Did ya see Gallas acting like a baby at the end. The 4th official had to stop him from storming off all because Birmingham got a penalty. Then when the whistle went he collapses to the ground and starts balling crying. And he's supposed to be captain?...........grow up ya clown
23/02/2008, 7:33 PM
feo123

he was just too quick for taylor, nicked the ball by him and taylor was clumsy with a late challenge, just not quick enough to get the ball unfortunatly it resulted in a horrible injury to a very good player. arsenal will miss him as i dont think bendtner is fully upto the standard yet. and van persie is still out.
it was a red card but there was no malis in the tackle at all and he was genuinly upset after it.
23/02/2008, 9:35 PM
dfx-

Hunt's tackle
Carvalho's tackle
Kuyt's tackle
Gunnarsson's tackle

From the top of my head, all the same if not worse than Taylor's this season.

Still the worst offence in the Premiership yet goes to Michael Ball (?) on Mendes at Manchester City. Easily forgotten in such outrage like today
23/02/2008, 9:38 PM
jebus

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Originally Posted by dfx-

Hunt's tackle
Carvalho's tackle
Kuyt's tackle
Gunnarsson's tackle

From the top of my head, all the same if not worse than Taylor's this season.

Still the worst offence in the Premiership yet goes to Michael Ball (?) on Mendes at Manchester City. Easily forgotten in such outrage like today

Keane's on Haaland was the worst tackle I've ever seen, purely because it's horrible and he practically delights in the fact he meant to do it. If ever a player shouldn't have been allowed play football again because of a challenge it was that scumbag

Just saw the Clichy penalty, anyone else think he got a bit of the ball?
23/02/2008, 10:05 PM
sligo23

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Originally Posted by dfx-

Still the worst offence in the Premiership yet goes to Michael Ball (?) on Mendes at Manchester City. Easily forgotten in such outrage like today

think it was Ben Thatcher.

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Originally Posted by jebus

Just saw the Clichy penalty, anyone else think he got a bit of the ball?

he got a decent chunk of the ball. defo not a penalty. very dogy refereein, made some very bad desicions
23/02/2008, 10:09 PM
shaneker

Just seen the Eduardo tackle on MOTD, absolutely shocking and my heart truly goes out to him. Sickening to watch, hope he can return from that as fit and well as possible.

Its a red card. There can be no debate about it, its high and the studs are up. You don't have to hit someone's knee for it to be a high tackle and whilst there is no evidence that Taylor meant to do anything to hurt the lad (and I don't think he did) you have to punish a tackle which due to it being over the ball causes that level of damage, it can't be permitted. Ref got it right, but a red was enough; no need for any extra ban to be put in place.

As for Gallas they have only themselves to blame - would you sign a player who threatened to score an own goal for his previous club? I don't think I'd trust him to be my captain.

All about Eduardo though - good luck to him.
23/02/2008, 10:29 PM
feo123

also from the slow motion replay they showed on MOTD it does show taylor was close to getting the ball but eduardo just got there before him
23/02/2008, 10:30 PM
NeilMcD

I have seen it a few times and listened to a few people who know about the game an I am still convinced that it is not a red card. I think people who know very little about tackling would think its a straight red. Respected people in football have come out and defended Taylor and Wenger has retracted his OTT statement about Taylor on this issue. A terrible injury to Eduardo and the poor lad will be a big miss from the Euro Championships in the summer and I will def miss him for that tournament as he is a class act in front of goal. However I dont think Taylor meant it and I don't think he should have been sent off.

As a previous poster said, there are loads of other tackles far far worse.
23/02/2008, 10:59 PM
feo123

why did gallas start crying? was he annoyed at clcihy or the referee?
23/02/2008, 11:22 PM
Dun Laoire

Birmingham should pay his wages until he's back playing. Shocking challenge.
23/02/2008, 11:31 PM
Closed Account 2

It was a shocker of a tackle from a player who is too imcompetent to be professional. He should have a 10 match ban at least - imagine if this was done to Robbie Keane or Damien Duff ahead of WC2002 we'd all be after this Taylor guy. I don't see Eduardo recovering, medically it looks like a lot of pins and plates will have to be put in to reconstruct his leg. Even if physically he recovered would he ever be the same player mentally again?

It's a shame because he was a great talent and super player to watch, I think he was 2nd top scorer behind Healy in the qualifiers.

The worst tackle I ever saw was from Gerrard Taggart on Damiano Tomassi in a Stoke v Roma friendly. That fat brute ruined Tomassi's career, he played again but was never the same level.
23/02/2008, 11:34 PM
dfx-

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Originally Posted by sligo23

think it was Ben Thatcher.

Yep I sit corrected. Vicious, disgusting and intentional.
23/02/2008, 11:36 PM
bellavistaman

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Originally Posted by osarusan

Wenger says Taylor should never play football again.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...em/7260564.stm

Wenger an arsehole, he sees what he chooses to see, if he had the balls to comment on every decision like mark hughes and harry redknapp id resoect the man but sick **** of his dramatic ****e, what a muppet.

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Originally Posted by feo123

why did gallas start crying? was he annoyed at clcihy or the referee?

Also a muppet.

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Originally Posted by Dun Laoire

Birmingham should pay his wages until he's back playing. Shocking challenge.

Shut up ffs, yet another muppet. Its footballbuild a bridge. This **** happens.

I really like eduardo top clas player, possibly the best finisher in prem as goals per chance ratio, this is a crime, but get over it, no different to larrsson or alan smith, as previously posted ben thatchers was the worst and we got over that, get on with it, and wenger better learn that if eboue was any lower last week he would have done alot alot more damage, also vieira has done it many times, so to gerrard and roy keane, so build a bridge lads.
23/02/2008, 11:40 PM
NeilMcD

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Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo

It was a shocker of a tackle from a player who is too imcompetent to be professional. He should have a 10 match ban at least - imagine if this was done to Robbie Keane or Damien Duff ahead of WC2002 we'd all be after this Taylor guy. I don't see Eduardo recovering, medically it looks like a lot of pins and plates will have to be put in to reconstruct his leg. Even if physically he recovered would he ever be the same player mentally again?

It's a shame because he was a great talent and super player to watch, I think he was 2nd top scorer behind Healy in the qualifiers.

The worst tackle I ever saw was from Gerrard Taggart on Damiano Tomassi in a Stoke v Roma friendly. That fat brute ruined Tomassi's career, he played again but was never the same level.

If it was robbie keane or duff I would say the same, the victims name should have nothing to do with it.
23/02/2008, 11:51 PM
Closed Account 2

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Originally Posted by bellavistaman

I really like eduardo top clas player, possibly the best finisher in prem as goals per chance ratio, this is a crime, but get over it, no different to larrsson or alan smith, as previously posted ben thatchers was the worst and we got over that, get on with it, and wenger better learn that if eboue was any lower last week he would have done alot alot more damage, also vieira has done it many times, so to gerrard and roy keane, so build a bridge lads.

Alan Smith was hit by a ball, so there was no player making a foul / tackle on him. So it's totally different as there is noone to punish.
23/02/2008, 11:53 PM
Closed Account 2

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

If it was robbie keane or duff I would say the same, the victims name should have nothing to do with it.

Ok, you probably don't follow Ireland, my mistake. Put it this way, if it was Nani or Rooney you'd be after him. You support Man Utd don't you (semi-educated guess)?

And this picture seems to show intent:-

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...nasmijesio.jpg
24/02/2008, 12:24 AM
soccerc

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Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo

It was a shocker of a tackle from a player who is too imcompetent to be professional.

How is he an incompetent footballer?

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He should have a 10 match ban at least

Why? Nothing malicious and the laws allow for a three game ban.

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if this was done to Robbie Keane or Damien Duff ahead of WC2002 we'd all be after this Taylor guy.

Absolutely nothing to do with it, trying to be overly emotive?

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I don't see Eduardo recovering, medically it looks like a lot of pins and plates will have to be put in to reconstruct his leg.

Are you an orthopaedic specialist?

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Even if physically he recovered would he ever be the same player mentally again?

Again, what are your medical qualifications? A psychologist this time?

People are over reacting. The same or similar challenge can be seen in every game, some warrant yellows, some reds while others are totally innocent tackles.
24/02/2008, 2:21 AM
mypost

Sickening tackle and the player should be banned from playing until Eduardo has recovered, if he does. He will get a 3-match ban and maybe a fine. What's that in comparison to shattering someone's leg in 2 pieces?? His foot may even have to be amputated.

Despite the game being a contact sport, these injuries only seem to happen in English football. Whether the defender meant it or not, if he and others who cause similiar injuries were banned from playing until his opponent plays again, you'd see far fewer such challenges/injuries in the future. If Eduardo was an Ireland player, we'd all be up in arms, screaming for revenge.

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